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GAME 1 OF THE NBA FINALS!!! HEATS V. MCCHICKENS, JUNE 1ST, 2023, 8:30PM

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Re: GAME 1 OF THE NBA FINALS!!! HEATS V. MCCHICKENS, JUNE 1ST, 2023, 8:30PM 

Post#1321 » by Letsgokings » Fri Jun 2, 2023 8:45 pm

I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?
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Post#1322 » by Bishop45 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 8:53 pm

Given that this is Denver's first finals appearance, I wouldn't say that the advantage is so grave that they should be stripped of a team-- But I don't play the games, so my say means nothing
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Post#1323 » by powerball1373 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 9:42 pm

Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?


But we love this type of advantage when teams have to play early season games in Miami against the Dolphins :D
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Post#1324 » by contract » Fri Jun 2, 2023 11:32 pm

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This graphic is telling. Battle for the paint. Miami's defense is predicated on keeping teams out of the paint. Denver's offensive engine ignites with paint offense.


Revisiting this from before the game.

Nuggets scored 32 in the paint in the first half to lead 59-42.

Nuggets scored 14 points in the paint in the second half. Miami outscored Denver 51-45 in the second half

Maybe some of it was Denver taking their foot off the gas (I'm skeptical of this as their main guys all played heavy minutes and Jokic looked very tired towards the end of the game). But, Miami definitely made some adjustments to protect against us ending up with our smaller guys getting mismatched near the basket. Miami also helped on Jokic much less. We need to build off of this.


Denver had a 6’10” abusing Vincent over and over. At some point Spo needs to adjust and bring another big to play aside Bam, to change the look and have them think twice about going inside and try to execute from the perimeter, and at this point it would require for them to be hot from there, but if not then you’ll have them playing to your benefit.

This is wrong. Fans need to get over the size thing, and they need to get over the idea of allowing the opposing team to dictate the way the game is going to be played. You force them to adapt to what you want to do. You try to force your opponent to play the way you want to play and play to your strengths. Not the other way around.

Size is not our advantage. We have next to no useful size on this team at all.

We need to move the ball and hit our shots enough to force them into playing our game.

If we're going to try to match up with the Nuggets then we may as well not even bother showing up to play.
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Post#1325 » by contract » Sat Jun 3, 2023 12:35 am

Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?

Every year Denver gets bounced from the playoffs. You're making the advantage a bigger deal than it is. We just need to make effective use of our depth and substitutions.
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Post#1326 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Sat Jun 3, 2023 12:43 am

I feel like we looked like the fresher team at the end. Altitude wasn't an issue in conditioning. At best maybe it affected our shooters.
Good News: We held Denver to a sub par game to their standards.
Bad News: We held Denver to a sub par game to their standards and still lost by double figures.
We could play better but so could they. Just have to play a complete game.
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Post#1327 » by Letsgokings » Sat Jun 3, 2023 2:20 am

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Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?


But we love this type of advantage when teams have to play early season games in Miami against the Dolphins :D
Not me I'm not a dolphins fan lol thank God for once my raiders get to travel to Miami in November this year
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Post#1328 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:14 am

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Michael Doleac wrote:I like Strus, but he has been awful for several games in a row. He has to be treated the same way Robinson was (finally) treated much of this season. Miss 3's, play less. I don't think you bench him outright, but his minutes need to be cut. He's not a good enough play maker or defender to be playing heavy minutes if he isn't making shots. 9 three point attempts (all misses) in 21 minutes!

Zeller getting minutes over Love is not a good move, unless Love has some injury I'm not aware of. Kevin has his weaknesses but Zeller doesn't really have any real strengths (besides being able to foul and occasionally rebound). At least Love can make open shots, rebound and catch the ball. His defense can't be much worse either. And I'd take Love's championship experience in these big games for a few minutes at a time.

More minutes for Highsmith - self explanatory. He was our 2nd best player, right after Bam.

This game isn't on Spo for me though. He can't put the ball in the basket for Strus, Martin, Robinson, etc. I give him credit for putting Highsmith in. But these are a few adjustments I'd like to see, and feel fairly confident (especially more minutes for Highsmith) that we will see in Game 2.

Yeah, I don't understand the blaming Spo thing. It's not like we weren't getting open looks. If guys don't hit we're screwed because we just don't have a ton of scorers sitting around on the bench to put in. This is the talent we assembled. All he can do is create opportunities for them. If too many guys go cold at once :dontknow:

And yeah, at this point Zeller looks like the sort of fighter that heavyweights schedule for tune up fights or to pad their record. I'd rather have UD out there.


Are people really still on Spo after this incredible run we're having though? If we win the Championship will people still be complaining about his decisions? Coaches are getting fired & hired around the league as we speak, while we're here w/ a shot at another title. C'mon man, give us all a mother f*ckin break already.
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Post#1329 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:31 am

Letsgokings wrote:We're in huge trouble


The only thing in trouble here is your mindset. Go fix that.
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Post#1330 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:36 am

Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?


There's no disadvantage. We take game 2 & then their playoff lives. Then they can go back breathing that thin air.
If u don't want 2b here, the way things work, u don't like it, then don't b here. U have 2 stand on something. If Miami ain't standing on something, they become alot of these organizations trying 2 find their identity. This is the culture, bro -Wade
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Post#1331 » by al bondiga » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:42 am

I have never loved the decisions by spo, Especially in game decisions, But by now it's very clear that somehow I am wrong.

He is an incredibly good coach even a hall of famer like they said.

I think I have a very good mind And I played a lot of basketball... even tough street basketball

But Even if this guy makes glaringly dumb decisions some times....spo is Sort of a genius.
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Post#1332 » by Letsgokings » Sat Jun 3, 2023 10:51 am

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Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?


There's no disadvantage. We take game 2 & then their playoff lives. Then they can go back breathing that thin air.
We lose game 2 and the series is pretty much over with though.
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Post#1333 » by contract » Sat Jun 3, 2023 11:07 am

Letsgokings wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:
Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?


There's no disadvantage. We take game 2 & then their playoff lives. Then they can go back breathing that thin air.
We lose game 2 and the series is pretty much over with though.

Only if we don't hold serve at home.
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Post#1335 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jun 3, 2023 1:32 pm

Letsgokings wrote:
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Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?


There's no disadvantage. We take game 2 & then their playoff lives. Then they can go back breathing that thin air.
We lose game 2 and the series is pretty much over with though.


Why so pessimistic mate? Series doesn't start until the road team wins as they say. If Nuggets drop gm2 as i expect then we take home crt advantage. If we drop gm2 I'd put all the profits i've made backing Miami this post season on Miami in game 3 on our turf if we drop both in Denver. Then we put it all on the floor in gm4. 2-0 means nothing until you at least win one on the road.

Denver hasn't proven anything as far as i'm concerned. Let's see if they can continue to protect home court vs a better rested Heat squad.
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Post#1336 » by greg4012 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 2:36 pm

al bondiga wrote:I have never loved the decisions by spo, Especially in game decisions, But by now it's very clear that somehow I am wrong.

He is an incredibly good coach even a hall of famer like they said.

I think I have a very good mind And I played a lot of basketball... even tough street basketball

But Even if this guy makes glaringly dumb decisions some times....spo is Sort of a genius.


Props to you for realizing and admitting. When skill levels get high enough, half of what you are trying to project from your own bball experiences go out the window completely
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Post#1337 » by greg4012 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 2:37 pm

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3ballbomber wrote:
Letsgokings wrote:I said this a long time ago and I will say it again. I know Denver is a big city but they should NOT have a basketball team. The disadvantage of not actually living there and having to compete at the highest of levels is unfair and its affected our team for years whenever we have our yearly game in Denver.

We can't ever beat Denver at home because our players can't breathe.

At least with football, players get to stop every 7 seconds or so between plays to catch their breathe.

I don't see how in the world we can take a road game from them and then we will literally have to go perfect at home to stand a chance.

Unfortunately it's probably not happening :-?


There's no disadvantage. We take game 2 & then their playoff lives. Then they can go back breathing that thin air.
We lose game 2 and the series is pretty much over with though.


Get outta here with this loser nonsense

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Post#1338 » by Letsgokings » Sat Jun 3, 2023 2:57 pm

greg4012 wrote:
Letsgokings wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:
There's no disadvantage. We take game 2 & then their playoff lives. Then they can go back breathing that thin air.
We lose game 2 and the series is pretty much over with though.


Get outta here with this loser nonsense

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Look I would love to br wrong but this is a bad matchup for us like a really bad matchup. Out of all 8 teams that made the playoffs out west Denver is literally the last team we wanted to meet in the finals.
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Post#1339 » by greg4012 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:12 pm

Letsgokings wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
Letsgokings wrote: We lose game 2 and the series is pretty much over with though.


Get outta here with this loser nonsense

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Look I would love to br wrong but this is a bad matchup for us like a really bad matchup. Out of all 8 teams that made the playoffs out west Denver is literally the last team we wanted to meet in the finals.


Last team YOU wanted to meet in the finals
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Post#1340 » by Letsgokings » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:02 pm

greg4012 wrote:
Letsgokings wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
Get outta here with this loser nonsense

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Look I would love to br wrong but this is a bad matchup for us like a really bad matchup. Out of all 8 teams that made the playoffs out west Denver is literally the last team we wanted to meet in the finals.


Last team YOU wanted to meet in the finals

Now you're just being silly. I called it back in the semi finals that this was the nuggets title to lose

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