Welcome Derrick White

Post #821 » by **bisme37** » Sun May 28, 2023 5:17 pm

RodyTur10 · Post #822 » by **RodyTur10** » Sun May 28, 2023 11:12 pm

How far off is White from becoming "the new Kyle Lowry"?
His defense and shooting are on par.
Just needs to be more assertive on driving, right?

zoyathedestroya · Post #823 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon May 29, 2023 9:17 am

Hopefully Jamal Murray next.

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TheMartian · Post #824 » by **TheMartian** » Mon May 29, 2023 9:19 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Hopefully Jamal Murray next.

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See, i don't understand how some posters think Jimmy is torching DWhite.

zoyathedestroya · Post #825 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon May 29, 2023 9:26 am

TheMartian wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Hopefully Jamal Murray next.

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See, i don't understand how some posters think Jimmy is torching DWhite.

First 3 games, he kinda was. Even preferred getting switched on him. Could be Jimmy’s legs or DWhite learning Jimmy’s tricks or both, but Derrick’s been much better stunting him and just going straight up when Jimmy drives or posts up last 3 games.

RodyTur10 · Post #826 » by **RodyTur10** » Mon May 29, 2023 9:34 am

TheMartian wrote:
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See, i don't understand how some posters think Jimmy is torching DWhite.

Who thinks that? White is the most important reason Butler is struggling so much.
In fact I believe sometimes players still try to help White too much and leave shooters open for the pass.
Just let Butler try get his points against D-White and we'll be okay.
Same with Adebayo against Timelord.

BK_2020 · Post #827 » by **BK_2020** » Mon May 29, 2023 2:38 pm

RodyTur10 wrote:
TheMartian wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Hopefully Jamal Murray next.

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See, i don't understand how some posters think Jimmy is torching DWhite.

Who thinks that? White is the most important reason Butler is struggling so much.
In fact I believe sometimes players still try to help White too much and leave shooters open for the pass.
Just let Butler try get his points against D-White and we'll be okay.
Same with Adebayo against Timelord.

It's the running narrative. I heard it so many times even from normally reputable sources like Thinking Basketball. Of course Ben Taylor never watches Celtics games and just regurgitates popular takes.

Fencer reregistered · Post #828 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:09 pm

RodyTur10 wrote:How far off is White from becoming "the new Kyle Lowry"?
His defense and shooting are on par.
Just needs to be more assertive on driving, right?

And fatter. Much fatter.

BK_2020 · Post #829 » by **BK_2020** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:17 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:
RodyTur10 wrote:How far off is White from becoming "the new Kyle Lowry"?
His defense and shooting are on par.
Just needs to be more assertive on driving, right?

And fatter. Much fatter.

Plus he needs to start trying to injure people.

zoyathedestroya · Post #830 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Tue May 30, 2023 3:20 pm

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FlatearthZorro · Post #831 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Tue May 30, 2023 6:52 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

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We need to start White as our PG and have him more involved in the offense, more touches, shots, etc.

31to6 · Post #832 » by **31to6** » Tue May 30, 2023 8:05 pm

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any list with Thunder Dan on it sucks monkey fingers.
but Derrick White is the balls and that's all there is to it!

zoyathedestroya · Post #833 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:26 pm

If we're running it back, scale back JB's usage. Elevate/empower White as an onball creator more. Less turnovers, more opportunities for that ball to keep on moving. Decent scorer off the bounce. And improved three-point shooter. Similar to Maxey's role with Philly. Not really the PG but can take advantage of a scrambled defense or when the ball is swung to the weak side. But I also wouldn't mind using him as a PnR ballhandler the way they did in SA.

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zoyathedestroya · Post #834 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Jun 3, 2023 5:09 pm

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Related to the ON-OFF numbers…

When Tatum sits and White is on the floor, Cs had a +9.4 net rating.

Tatum OFF, Brown ON: +3.4
Tatum OFF, Smart ON: +3.1

Just under 500 possessions…
Jays both OFF, White ON: +11.4

Seems like a great stabilizer when stars are off the floor.

Post #835 » by **165bows** » Sat Jun 3, 2023 6:28 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:If we're running it back, scale back JB's usage. Elevate/empower White as an onball creator more. Less turnovers, more opportunities for that ball to keep on moving. Decent scorer off the bounce. And improved three-point shooter. Similar to Maxey's role with Philly. Not really the PG but can take advantage of a scrambled defense or when the ball is swung to the weak side. But I also wouldn't mind using him as a PnR ballhandler the way they did in SA.

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Good point they should run the White/Hauser/Tatum/Grant/Rob lineup a lot more than they do.

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RodyTur10 · Post #836 » by **RodyTur10** » Sat Jun 3, 2023 8:22 pm

White is like a chameleon he can adjust to his environment and become unnoticable.
In a good way. He can defend and switch between wings and guards smoothly.
He can win possesions for you by making timely steals and blocks without gambling.

On offense he can take 5/10/15 shots a game just depending on the agressiveness of his fellows.
On-ball or off-ball he handles the ball as much as coaches ask him to do.
But he can create or take a shot when needed.
He never takes dumb shots or makes overambitious passes.
I'd reckon his teammates love playing with Derrick.

The core of the team for me right now is White/Tatum/Timelord and that's what I'd be building around.

BostonCouchGM · Post #837 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 11:09 pm

White is such a good role player. But if he was half the player this board and the media believed he was we wouldn't have needed 6 games to beat the lowly Hawks and 7 games to beat the pitiful Sixers leading us to be gassed for the Heat.

Floody100 · Post #838 » by **Floody100** » Wed Jun 7, 2023 9:35 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:White is such a good role player. But if he was half the player this board and the media believed he was we wouldn't have needed 6 games to beat the lowly Hawks and 7 games to beat the pitiful Sixers leading us to be gassed for the Heat.

Why did they let you back on when you add absolutely nothing to this board ?

flintsky21 · Post #839 » by **flintsky21** » Wed Jun 7, 2023 9:52 am

The truth is we'll never be able to fully optimize White bang for the buck unless he becomes the main PG, but then that means moving Smart which is very very unlikely under Brad.

zoyathedestroya · Post #840 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:19 am

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