show me one realistic Dame trade

[Blazers77]

I think the hold up on a Lillard trade is the amount of money is owed. It is astronomical. With the new rules being finalized for the Cap Implications and the penalties for having two plus max players with the tax apron that $60+ M a season when he is at the end of his career is going to be painful for whichever franchise he is on.

Am I saying any team would not want him today? No. I am saying 2-3 seasons from now it might be a massive burden which could ruin that franchises chances from winning/avoiding the penalties.

If I am POR I trade him this offseason to avoid that and to rebuild. I just don't know how much you can get back as the contract will not be friendly when he is 35+ years old.

This is why I think Boston or New York make sense for a deal for Dame. Both of these franchises need that 2-3 year prime window that he can provide. Both can pay it and are big market teams.

[JKiddy]

I think the only way the Nets think they can afford this is if they get money off the books this summer. That might have to mean Simmons, Harris, Dinwiddie, etc. Some of those are about to expire. But, Dame is going to be overpaid very soon. It is not something most owners can stomach.

[The Sebastian Express]

I think the only way the Nets think they can afford this is if they get money off the books this summer. That might have to mean Simmons, Harris, Dinwiddie, etc. Some of those are about to expire. But, Dame is going to be overpaid very soon. It is not something most owners can stomach.

Have you personally talked to those owners or have an understanding of the financials of those teams or are you still just coming here to talk down Dame's value so you can justify the trade proposals you've made?

[JKiddy]

I may or may not have a more than ancillary understanding of the basics.

I do not think a team will run to trade for Dame because of the following (35% cap as he signed a Designated Veteran Extenston):

2025-26 (age 35)
$58,545,211

2026-27 (age 36)
$63,228,828

I think POR is asking for the moon right now for Dame. Teams are not moving because of that salary. It would crush a team's cap. If you combine this with the new CBA alterations you better have a sick roster to surround him or this will be a waste.

Do I think he gets traded? Probably. But, the days of teams trading 4 or 5 1sts is over.

[Tim Lehrbach]

I think POR is asking for the moon right now for Dame. Teams are not moving because of that salary.

What informs your belief that either of these statements is true? I'm not asking for your evaluation of the situation but for what gives you the idea that these two statements represent things that are actually happening?

[JKiddy]

Oh, got it. I would say my years in the sports industry working as an insider as well as my decades of following the NBA closely.

I do not have a direct source in this particular situation. This is just a gut feeling based on other sources information.

[cdubbz]

Dame for Jaylen Brown & Pritchard.

[PDXKnight]

Dame for Jaylen Brown & Pritchard.

I'd want more from Boston, maybe pick(s) to sweeten?

[ebott]

If we trade Dame, I want to do something truly stupid and make sure we get another top 10 pick out of the deal so we can pick the Thompson twins.

[Blazers98]

I think Dame/ Brown trade is a very lateral move. If we trade Dame, we want young talent and draft picks. This will also mean we will suck for the next two years and get additional high draft picks increasing the chances of a strong rebuild.

[zzaj]

What people aren’t realizing is that under the new CBA, it actually BENEFITS the Blazers to hold onto Lillard. The new model will be a single star maaaaaybe two and whatever else teams can cobble together for low money. This will benefit small market teams who can’t attract stars. The new CBA absolutely crushes the middle class…and nobody, and I MEAN NOBODY is going to be trading “big” contracts in a year…and a couple of teams, including GS won’t even have that luxury because they will be well over that second apron—which is the closest thing to a ‘hard cap’ that the NBA has ever had…

Trading Lillard for 1st rounders has merit, but it can’t happen without taking a big dumb contract back = not worth it, given the CBA.

Trading Lillard for another player (Brown, whomever) is a terrible path. 1) You’ll never get a return that will be better than Lillard is for this team, both on the court and in the lockeroom. 2) They’d be the highest paid, and essentially making that player the hinch-pin of your franchise for the forseeable future.

[Goldbum]

What people aren’t realizing is that under the new CBA, it actually BENEFITS the Blazers to hold onto Lillard. The new model will be a single star maaaaaybe two and whatever else teams can cobble together for low money. This will benefit small market teams who can’t attract stars. The new CBA absolutely crushes the middle class…and nobody, and I MEAN NOBODY is going to be trading “big” contracts in a year…and a couple of teams, including GS won’t even have that luxury because they will be well over that second apron—which is the closest thing to a ‘hard cap’ that the NBA has ever had…

Trading Lillard for 1st rounders has merit, but it can’t happen without taking a big dumb contract back = not worth it, given the CBA.

Trading Lillard for another player (Brown, whomever) is a terrible path. 1) You’ll never get a return that will be better than Lillard is for this team, both on the court and in the lockeroom. 2) They’d be the highest paid, and essentially making that player the hinch-pin of your franchise for the forseeable future.

There is still a possibility to trade Dame, get young, and add a huge TPE but it would need to be a 3 team deal.

[GEE]

Had been thinking about a potential three way deal w/ POR/BKN/PHI recently and decided to play with the Checker for a few to see if there's an "unrealistic" trade and I came up with something that looks decent enough I think. Coming out of left field admittedly:

POR trades: Dame / Nurkic
BKN trades: Simmons / Dinwiddie / Claxton / PICKS
PHI trades: Harris / Maxey

Two Possibilities (Our Choice):

POR gets: Simmons / Dinwiddie / Claxton / PICKS
BKN gets: Nurkic / Harris / Maxey
PHI gets: Dame

OR without getting PICKS compensation which I'd prefer far less:

POR gets: Simmons / Dinwiddie / Claxton / Maxey
BKN gets: Nurkic / Harris
PHI gets Dame

Just something different I guess. It's my Dame to Philly option since I don't like what they have to offer. We would still have the #3, the NYK pick and much more to finish a build THIS SUMMER. I'd start by making a strong push for RUI as our PFOTF, and I remain luke warm on resigning Grant. With a RUI addition I might start him and Simmons together instead, and just spend our money on someone else.

RESULT:

Simons / Dinwiddie / Keon
Sharpe / Thybulle
Simmons / Little / Knox
RUI / Watford
Claxton / Eubanks / Walker

Rebuilt, but I still hold on to that sliver of hope that Cronin can convince Jordan that he just can't pass on having both #2 & #3 Picks in this year's draft along with Little and/or Keon and/or Walker, and will sacrifice Mark Williams to have it. Still Dreaming I know, but I just feel a strong enough overpay can still get him.

[Wizenheimer]

there are not any realistic trades for Dame, in my view, that has Portland getting a bunch of great draft picks. Houston & Orlando aren't going to trade for Dame, and if they are part of 3 wade trade, they will be hogging the value that Portland would want

Dame for Jaylen Brown is a crappy trade; for one thing, Brown is overrated. For another, it's nearly certain Portland would have Brown for only one season before he walks....unless Portland gives him a contract of 55M/year for 5 years. And having 5 years of Brown on a supermax deal is much worse then having 3 years of Dame on a supermax deal. Which of course undercuts one of the main arguments for trading Dame...his impact on the cap

the other talked about trade is Dame to Brooklyn for the corpse of Ben Simmons and 3 or 4 of those first;s Brookly has 4-7 years from now. Crap trade. And of course it undercuts the big argument for trading Dame because Portland "can't" build a contender around him. If the Blazers are going to take 7-10 years before they have a realistic shot of becoming a contender, what's the point of trading Dame?

Dame to NY? why would the Knicks want to pair Dame with Brunson? it makes no sense?

[Norm2953]

I do think a Dame trade could easily get done for Miami if they creamed by the Nuggets, knows Jimmy is not getting younger. A core of Jimmy, Bam and Dame would be very tough. They'd offer up Herro and the pick/swaps to get Dame to a team that could contend for a title if thats what he wants

[GEE]

I do think a Dame trade could easily get done for Miami if they creamed by the Nuggets, knows Jimmy is not getting younger. A core of Jimmy, Bam and Dame would be very tough. They'd offer up Herro and the pick/swaps to get Dame to a team that could contend for a title if thats what he wants

Respectfully, I don't think the Heat are a likely destination for Dame for several reasons, but the biggest being is that there isn't enough picks available from the Heat to only include Herro. Dame to Miami would IMO have to start with Bam, and I honestly think the Heat would value Bam over Dame.

I do think there's a good to great chance Dame gets traded soon, at least I hope so because his value couldn't be higher and there IMO are several potential suitors. A bidding war is also very possible, and I think Cronin may already have scenarios/options available to him IF Dame wants out, but Cronin also won't take a CRAP return just to appease Dame.

[Butter]

I do think a Dame trade could easily get done for Miami if they creamed by the Nuggets, knows Jimmy is not getting younger. A core of Jimmy, Bam and Dame would be very tough. They'd offer up Herro and the pick/swaps to get Dame to a team that could contend for a title if thats what he wants

Respectfully, I don't think the Heat are a likely destination for Dame for several reasons, but the biggest being is that there isn't enough picks available from the Heat to only include Herro. Dame to Miami would IMO have to start with Bam, and I honestly think the Heat would value Bam over Dame.

I do think there's a good to great chance Dame gets traded soon, at least I hope so because his value couldn't be higher and there IMO are several potential suitors. A bidding war is also very possible, and I think Cronin may already have scenarios/options available to him if Dame IF Dame wants out, but Cronin also won't take a CRAP return just to appease Dame.

Any trade for Bam would have to include Nurk

What about:

Dame & Nurk
for
Bam & Lowry

[Norm2953]

It'd be tough to get Bam for he's literally Miami's only quality big

[ebott]

there are not any realistic trades for Dame, in my view, that has Portland getting a bunch of great draft picks. Houston & Orlando aren't going to trade for Dame, and if they are part of 3 wade trade, they will be hogging the value that Portland would want

Even taking a step further back, there isn't any realistic Dame trade because the Blazers (who in my mind are pretty much run by Bert Kohl) just don't want to trade him. So all of this Dame trade talk is just talk for fun.

So when I think of these fun Dame trades I like to think of deals where Dame ends up in a much better situation than here and the Blazers don't end up with nothing of value than a handful of picks in the distant future.

I agree on Houston. There's just not enough there there for adding Dame to mean anything. They would be worse off than the Blazers. If they got Harden in free agency, that all changes. But the idea that any team would do a trade on draft day in preparation for free agency is pure fantasy.

But the Orlando idea is fun to play with, imho. If the basic trade idea is Fultz, Isaac, 6, 11 and assorted ballast for Dame, Orlando has a seriously solid starting lineup of Wendell, Paolo, Wagner, Harris and Dame. Probably not the instant contender that I'd hope to.put Dame in, but still real good.

On the Blazers side they'd really have to be horny for whoever they got at 6 and 11. I'm currently horny for the Thompson twins so my current pipe dream is to take Amen at 3, Austar at 11. Rebuild around Amen, Shaedon and Ausar. We wouldn't be good, but we'd be fun to watch.

[bluerap23]

Best one I can think of is KAT for Dame. KAT is 27 so still young and has a locked contract. There would need to be more stuff in the trade but I think that is the best both teams can do to address their issues.