Just Run It Back

[JaMarco]

Dejounte Murray would solve a lot of problems

[Triple7]

100% run it back. It really shouldn't be that complicated. 

Two wins short of a championship last year, one win short of the Finals this year. Our two best players in the prime of their careers at 25 and 26 years old respectively. We've got the ability to bring almost the entire roster back including every single one of the guys who were in or on the fringe of the playoff rotation. Chances to get even better in the margins by stacking firsts to upgrade roleplayers. 

Joe is an obvious question mark/issue. If there was any place to shake things up this would be it, but it sounds like Brad is already committing to keeping him around. If you're going to do that then add high quality veteran coaches to his bench, give him as much support as possible. For all his shortcomings in his first season I think it's fair to expect a jump in terms of quality heading into his second year with a full off season to plan/re-group. Hopefully that's enough.

Do we supermax Jaylen? Hell f*cking yes we do. 

There is going to be an unprecedented amount of star player movement over the next couple years, don't let a 2nd team all-NBA guy walk in his prime just because you're going to have to overpay him (especially not with an impending cap increase that's going to help the cause). There are going to be plenty of teams that don't have any supermax players that are desperate to add talent and will be willing to take him on if worse comes to worst. We get the opportunity to continue to let the Jay duo run its course at least another season and then get into that mix if the time comes. Letting him walk takes that away from us and gives us absolutely nothing in return. At 27 years old going into next season he's not going to end up being an albatross on that supermax deal (kicking in when he's 28). You might have to add value to him to be getting a better or comparable but cheaper player, but he's not going to end up as an anchor around our necks. And there is still a very real possibility that we get over the hump and now have locked in an, albeit very expensive, dynamic championship duo for the next 6 years. 

Do we match Grant Williams? Hell f*cking yes we do. 

Everyone is banging on about the new CBA and the issues that it gives us in terms of roster building because of the penalties like losing the taxpayer MLE, well that's exactly why we need to retain salary slots like Grant's. Even overpaid, he's a useful player who can find his way into our playoff rotation. Teams will take that on if worse comes to worst. Alternatively he gives us all kinds of insurance for Al and Rob with all the risks those two pose in terms of longevity. 

I can understand letting him walk at $20m, but anything between $12-18m we should be matching. At the lower end of that range he actually has a role for this team. At the higher end he becomes the trade ballast that we stack picks on to try and improve. 

Yes it means we go into next season with an incredibly expensive roster, but come the trade-deadline we'll know whether it can be a championship contender and if not we have all sorts of ammo to shake things up (which could just be dumping salary if need be).

Biggest question mark is how do you maximize Pritchard in terms of trade value to get something of value back. He wants out, we don't have minutes, but he's more valuable as an insurance guard than it would be to get anything later than an early 30's 2nd round pick. Attach him to Gallo and add a first and get what? 

Everything else is relatively straight forward. Keep the core, keep tweaking. Don't make major moves until the present themselves (e.g. wait for the next disgruntled star and hope it's a good fit to swap JB for).

Lol. Grant will ain’t worth 12M a year!
More around 5-8M per for a role player that’s very inconsistent.

[robbie84]

Regular season: 2nd best offense in league, 2nd best defence in league.
Playoffs: 10th out 16 teams defensively, 6th out of 16 teams offensively.
What caused this large gap?
You have to run it back and give Joe some coaching help. Vogel or someone like Mike Bud to chime in when needed.
We need to understand why Timelord's minutes were so restricted because his impact is so enormous that if he's gonna only play 20 mins a game, we need more help defensively.

If timelord can play 30+ mins a game and you get Gallinari back, and a Grant Williams replacement, you can beat any team in the NBA if you play to your ability.
We also got unlucky playing a Heat team that caught absolute fire during the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

[jfs1000d]

Salary Cap is dumb. Just have no cap and massive penalties foe going over it. It prevents teams from being good just so the lakers don't have a good team every year?

And I say that because we have to trade one of Brogdon, SMart, White. That is $58M in salary for those three, we need to cut that by 1/3.

And, let's not even get started on the Super Max. Tatum's a Super Max, Borwn should get a 5 year max deal. Not super max. I don't care about the owners money and paying, I care about roster flexibility.

[BostonCouchGM]

do we have any choice? Sure, Brad could grow a pair and trade Jaylen but then agents and the Player's Association would clutch pearls and threaten to never let anyone come to Boston again so Jaylen will be signed. So next season, before extensions kick in, will be our last possible season to actually compete before we're in cap hell and our depth goes away.

[JaMarco]

Yup, Cs are pretty much going to run it back like they should.

[RodyTur10]

Only run the guys back that have performed according to the size of their contract.
It's a short list: Tatum, White, R.Williams and Hauser.
And because they're so cheap and haven't gotten enough opportunities: Pritchard and Muscala.

The rest should be put on the market: Brown, Smart, Brogdon, Horford, (Gallinari, Kornet)

There's a saying: stagnation is decline. If we stop improving the team then logically other teams will overtake our position.

[BK_2020]

Regular season: 2nd best offense in league, 2nd best defence in league.
Playoffs: 10th out 16 teams defensively, 6th out of 16 teams offensively.
What caused this large gap?

Literally the Miami series and their scrubs shooting .434 from the three over a 7 game series.
We held the Sixers to .551 TS% and 110.2 ORtg. Atlanta to 115.5 ORtg and .558 TS%.
Miami had .587 TS% and 118.3 ORtg despite Jimmy being held to .519 TS% and Bam to .538.

[zoyathedestroya]

In the off-chance Brad is NOT just running it back, my only keepers are: Tatum, White, Rob (if not permanently damaged), Horford (as backup big and locker room vet), Hauser, Muscala, and Smart. Everyone else can go/be traded for better fits/used as trade ballast.

[Red2]

Definition of insanity etc. i’m still mad at these clowns. Over and over and over they pull the same old $—t. Why would you ever run this back?

[Red2]

Trade brown to atlanta for deandre hunter snd collins. Throw in smart or horford if you have to. Brown is awful on D and cant dribble in traffic. Smart is on the decline. By his own admission he had a bad year only to play a bit better in the plsyoffs. Al is a 10-15 minute guy now ; we need to get younger and bigger up front. I’d love to see us play more fast break so a point guard would be nice. I think jd had potentisl but he needs pt. Hate to lose grsnt or pp but if they can get you something then go ahead

[robbie84]

Regular season: 2nd best offense in league, 2nd best defence in league.
Playoffs: 10th out 16 teams defensively, 6th out of 16 teams offensively.
What caused this large gap?

Literally the Miami series and their scrubs shooting .434 from the three over a 7 game series.
We held the Sixers to .551 TS% and 110.2 ORtg. Atlanta to 115.5 ORtg and .558 TS%.
Miami had .587 TS% and 118.3 ORtg despite Jimmy being held to .519 TS% and Bam to .538.

I agree, Miami was on fire. But our offense was garbage too. We still should have won this series comfortably and we should have cleaned up Philly and ATL easier too.

What happened that made us suck so badly all playoffs?

[JaMarco]

Trade brown to atlanta for deandre hunter snd collins.

Get the duck boats ready

[31to6]

Run it back with Stanley Johnson as the 15th man and a title should be pretty much in the bag I figure;)

[BK_2020]

Regular season: 2nd best offense in league, 2nd best defence in league.
Playoffs: 10th out 16 teams defensively, 6th out of 16 teams offensively.
What caused this large gap?

Literally the Miami series and their scrubs shooting .434 from the three over a 7 game series.
We held the Sixers to .551 TS% and 110.2 ORtg. Atlanta to 115.5 ORtg and .558 TS%.
Miami had .587 TS% and 118.3 ORtg despite Jimmy being held to .519 TS% and Bam to .538.

I agree, Miami was on fire. But our offense was garbage too. We still should have won this series comfortably and we should have cleaned up Philly and ATL easier too.

What happened that made us suck so badly all playoffs?

We were on fire against Atlanta and Philly. Our offensive rating was like 120 for the first two rounds. Our defense wasn't as good but it was still very good. Overall, we had +5 net rating against the Hawks and +10 net rating against the Sixers. It's really baffling that these matchups went 6 and 7 games but viewed statistically, we dominated the first two rounds.

[Roger Federer]

Regular season: 2nd best offense in league, 2nd best defence in league.
Playoffs: 10th out 16 teams defensively, 6th out of 16 teams offensively.
What caused this large gap?

Literally the Miami series and their scrubs shooting .434 from the three over a 7 game series.
We held the Sixers to .551 TS% and 110.2 ORtg. Atlanta to 115.5 ORtg and .558 TS%.
Miami had .587 TS% and 118.3 ORtg despite Jimmy being held to .519 TS% and Bam to .538.

I agree, Miami was on fire. But our offense was garbage too. We still should have won this series comfortably and we should have cleaned up Philly and ATL easier too.

What happened that made us suck so badly all playoffs?

Playoff defense happened. The regular season doesn't matter but I'm sure if and when we "run it back", people will talk themselves into believing this team has turned a corner. Running it back is throwing away an entire year.

[BK_2020]

Literally the Miami series and their scrubs shooting .434 from the three over a 7 game series.
We held the Sixers to .551 TS% and 110.2 ORtg. Atlanta to 115.5 ORtg and .558 TS%.
Miami had .587 TS% and 118.3 ORtg despite Jimmy being held to .519 TS% and Bam to .538.

I agree, Miami was on fire. But our offense was garbage too. We still should have won this series comfortably and we should have cleaned up Philly and ATL easier too.

What happened that made us suck so badly all playoffs?

Playoff defense happened. The regular season doesn't matter but I'm sure if and when we "run it back", people will talk themselves into believing this team has turned a corner. Running it back is throwing away an entire year.

Our offense through the first two rounds was actually better than in the regular season.
Then Jaylen Brown forgot how to shoot.
*No really, it literally was Jaylen Brown. If you remove Jaylen Brown's stats, our TS% for the ECF is .597. Our collective three point shooting jumps by 3 percentage points.

[BRUNiNHO91]

The reason you run it back is because the EC is in shambles.

If Harden leaves Philly they can’t do much to replace him. Bucks are old and on the decline. Miami is Miami I guess..That’s the competition. Very few teams can realistically make the jump to top 4 and the ones that can don’t have much options to really do it which are the Knicks and Cavs.

Boston on the other hand has 75% of the roster in it’s prime.

The West also is no longer the threat it was, even with Jokic being a machine. Lebron is about to be put to
sleep, Durant and Kawhi are falling apart slowly and the Warriors probably had their final breath against us last year. It’s all wide open. Get the right assistant coaches in, get another solid big man and hope Tatum is ready to take you over the hump.

[Marvel]

Literally the Miami series and their scrubs shooting .434 from the three over a 7 game series.
We held the Sixers to .551 TS% and 110.2 ORtg. Atlanta to 115.5 ORtg and .558 TS%.
Miami had .587 TS% and 118.3 ORtg despite Jimmy being held to .519 TS% and Bam to .538.

I agree, Miami was on fire. But our offense was garbage too. We still should have won this series comfortably and we should have cleaned up Philly and ATL easier too.

What happened that made us suck so badly all playoffs?

We were on fire against Atlanta and Philly. Our offensive rating was like 120 for the first two rounds. Our defense wasn't as good but it was still very good. Overall, we had +5 net rating against the Hawks and +10 net rating against the Sixers. It's really baffling that these matchups went 6 and 7 games but viewed statistically, we dominated the first two rounds.

[GrandTheftRondo]

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I remember in 2014 people wanted the Warriors to trade Klay Thompson because they just didn’t have what it takes to get over the Clippers and take the next step.

Now granted they were a bit younger and I’m not saying we are the Warriors in waiting, but winning a title isn’t easy and multiple failures is very normal in todays NBA. The league is every even up top so failures are normal as for top teams.

Unless you can get someone better than Brown for example trading him just makes no sense at this moment.