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2023 Draft Discussion Part 6

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#161 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:23 pm

Hopefully Leonard Miller and Derrick Lively move up into the top 12 as well.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#162 » by DG88 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:23 pm

Full Bilal Coulibaly highlights from the game. Yeah he's definitely going to be a lottery pick now

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#163 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:25 pm

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PhilBlackson wrote:Had to see this sh*T with how royally they already f’d up. I wanna believe that they’ll be smart enough to trade Pascal for the 3rd or 4th but given just the whole vibe of this sh*T season — I fully expect Sergio to be the hire, then we basically run it back but one of George or Bufkin take Gary’s spot….cue Press Conference “blah blah injuries or we would’ve been in the thick of it like last year, blah blah blah give these guys a fair chance blah oRgaNic gRowTh blah we gotta be better” …then trade away 2 picks this time for a “really good vet that can also contribute” & help push us further….

Get ready for the new catch phrase “incremental improvement each day, each year” lol just watch.


Takes 2 to tango.

I don't see Portland moving Scoot for Siakam.


Literally zero chance.
If the Hornets are smart enough to draft Scoot, then I could see the Blazers trading Miller for Siakam, but even that seems highly unlikely to me.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#164 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:28 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:ya he wont be there at 13

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Who cares there are so many possibilities.

Predictions for the 12th pick.

Jonathan Givony, ESPN: Nick Smith Jr. (Arkansas: Guard, 19 years old, 6-foot-5)

Kevin O’Connor, The Ringer: Leonard Miller (G League Ignite: Forward, 19 years old, 6-foot-10)

Jonathan Wasserman, Bleacher Report: Dereck Lively II (Duke: Center, 19 years old, 7-foot-1)

Bryan Kalbrosky, For The Win: Bilal Coulibaly (Metropolitans 92: Forward, 18 years old, 6-foot-8)

Michael Scotto, HoopsHype: Keyonte George (Baylor: Guard, 19 years old, 6-foot-4)

Kyle Boone, CBS Sports: Anthony Black (Arkansas: Guard, 19 years old, 6-foot-6)

Gary Parrish, CBS Sports: Taylor Hendricks (UCF: Forward, 19 years old, 6-foot-8)

Matt Babcock, SI: Dereck Lively II (Duke: Center, 19 years old, 7-foot-1)

Cody Taylor, Rookie Wire: Nick Smith Jr. (Arkansas: Guard, 19 years old, 6-foot-5)

Chase Hughes, NBC: Nick Smith Jr. (Arkansas: Guard, 19 years old, 6-foot-5)

Brian Mahoney, AP: Cason Wallace (Kentucky: Guard, 19 years old, 6-foot-4)

Tankathon: Jordan Hawkins (Connecticut: Guard, 21 years old, 6-foot-5)

NBAdraft.net: Kobe Bufkin (Michigan: Guard, 19 years old, 6-foot-5)

NBA Draft Room: Gradey Dick (Kansas: Forward, 19 years old, 6-foot-6)

Raps going to look at who ticks boxes like Rupert or who drops the way OG and Drummond did. They'll be waiting. Leonard Miller might be there, Rayan Rupert, Keyonte George, Cason Wallace. Coulibaly might be this year's Schengun who some went off the deepend about two year's ago before we moved to #4 and then some doubled down and suggested we take Schengun at #4... They were half right. That they saw the value was commendable but never over Scottie. If Gradey Dick fell to 13? Hmmm.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#165 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:28 pm

DG88 wrote:Full Bilal Coulibaly highlights from the game. Yeah he's definitely going to be a lottery pick now

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This kid is nice.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#166 » by gbball » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:33 pm

DG88 wrote:Full Bilal Coulibaly highlights from the game. Yeah he's definitely going to be a lottery pick now

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He's special. He was low on the pecking order, but the team benefits from involving him more. Only 3 shots last game and they got blown out.

I hope he's there at 13...He's the player that I want the most. But if he's gone someone else will be there. I honestly like him better than Scoot. The question is how high will teams feel like is too much of a reach to take him.

OKC took Westbrook 4th when he was really raw, I can see them taking Bilal at 12. But does he even last that long? We'll see.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#167 » by Bruin » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:33 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#168 » by Bruin » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:34 pm

Making the play in game was the worst possible scenario and Masai dove head first into that garbage just to be knocked out by a child :lol:
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#169 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:35 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:ya he wont be there at 13

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Who cares there are so many possibilities.

Raps going to look at who ticks boxes like Rupert or who drops the way OG and Drummond did. They'll be waiting. Leonard Miller might be there, Rayan Rupert, Keyonte George, Cason Wallace. Coulibaly might be this year's Schengun who some went off the deepend about two year's ago before we moved to #4 and then some doubled down and suggested we take Schengun at #4... They were half right. That they saw the value was commendable but never over Scottie. If Gradey Dick fell to 13? Hmmm.


It matters. Raps likely aren't going to draft George, NSJ, Lively etc, so even if they drop to them, we will pass. Coulibaly has insane tools but even more impressive is that he knows how to play within the team. Great upside. Would have been a nice pick.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#170 » by gbball » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:39 pm

I know it sounds crazy, but if we really want Bilal, we can trade up and get him. I was hoping for OG to Portland last year for Sharpe. Bilal has similar potential. I'd do whatever I could to make sure we get him.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#171 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:40 pm

Bruin wrote:Making the play in game was the worst possible scenario and Masai dove head first into that garbage just to knocked out by a child :lol:


Fk, I try to wipe this out of my memory every day but it's impossible.
What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.

Hope Masai can right the ship again and beat the "washed" allegations this summer.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#172 » by treerollins » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:00 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.

Hope Masai can right the ship again and beat the "washed" allegations this summer.


in my opinion it’s an ownership thing. they’re treating the raptors like they do the leafs, trying to sell jerseys, luxury boxes and milk ticket prices. it’s not about on court performance, the only way we rebuild is if the financial performance dips
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#173 » by Jcity08 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:06 pm

DG88 wrote:Full Bilal Coulibaly highlights from the game. Yeah he's definitely going to be a lottery pick now

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One of his issues was his indecision on offence, it looks like he is much sharper now, his movemrnts and scoring in the flow of the offense.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#174 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:10 pm

The only real benefit to Bilal going before us would be Utah taking him and not okc because they need a pg so Cason becomes more likely to fall
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#175 » by Mark_83 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:14 pm

Not sure how I feel. I've been on the Coulibaly is a lottery pick wagon for months. Now there's a reasonable chance that he won't get to us. Hopefully that means someone else like Wallace or Hendricks falls. Next guy up for me is probably either Lively or Bufkin.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#176 » by Bruin » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:20 pm

At this point in time my expectations for Masai are low so I wouldn’t be surprised if he reaches for a guy projected in the 20s at 13
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#177 » by DG88 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:23 pm

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DG88 wrote:Full Bilal Coulibaly highlights from the game. Yeah he's definitely going to be a lottery pick now

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One of his issues was his indecision on offence, it looks like he is much sharper now, his movemrnts and scoring in the flow of the offense.

I think him getting comfortable and his coach giving him more confidence in his play has helped.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#178 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:25 pm

Even if Bilal is taken before #13, no worries, Raps will still get a good prospect . . .

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#179 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:26 pm

I feel like things will shake out like this.

definitely gone by 13:
VW
Scoot
B.Miller
Amen
Black
Hendricks
Ausar

likely gone (best guess, maybe a few of these guys swap with others in the next group):
Jarace
Whitmore
Dick
Cason

OKC can grab one of these guys just before we pick, and we can choose from the rest:
Bilal
George
Bufkin
Cissoko
GG
L.Miller
Lively
Hawkins
NSJ
Sensabaugh
Rupert
JHS
...

a chance someone unexpected falls, but even if not, a good group of prospects to select from even if 'our guy' isn't there (hope we don't Bruno this pick because Tyler Ennis gets selected one or two spots before us). Sucks that we are where we are, but just need to be thorough and ready for any possibility.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#180 » by mademan » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:29 pm

LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)

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