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2023 Draft Discussion Part 6

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#181 » by Bruin » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:45 pm

mademan wrote:LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)

Might as well delete the whole thread and not pay attention to the draft then
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#182 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:53 pm

mademan wrote:LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)


There's one dude bitching about missing out on Coulibaly, and that Masai will also reach on someone projected in the 20s (also Coulibaly).
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#183 » by tecumseh18 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:58 pm

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mademan wrote:LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)


There's one dude bitching about missing out on Coulibaly, and that Masai will also reach on someone projected in the 20s (also Coulibaly).


Why are the Raptors always picking x in what is clearly a x-1 man draft? The league clearly has it in for us.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#184 » by Mark_83 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 8:59 pm

Lively might have the highest upside of guys ranked outside the lotto. I'm slightly iff on his compete as he seems too laid back and doesn't really attack his drills during workouts the way you'd like, but you can see the rare skill and talent at that size.

https://youtube.com/shorts/nNtVBldIouk?feature=share

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#185 » by mademan » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:01 pm

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mademan wrote:LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)

Might as well delete the whole thread and not pay attention to the draft then


dude i dont mind discussing draft prospects and having fun discussing how they fit on the team and what their long term upside might be. But to get upset that someone who is in our range might not be available just sounds ridiculous, lol. Being upset we didnt tank and dont have a shot at Victor/Scoot is one thing (or even a general high pick in the 5-8 range). Being upset that we didnt tank because Bilal may not be available at 13 is absolutely ridiculous.

Besides continuing to play and being showcased, i have seen him do nothing that separates him from half a dozen other prospects in our range.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#186 » by mademan » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:02 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
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mademan wrote:LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)


There's one dude bitching about missing out on Coulibaly, and that Masai will also reach on someone projected in the 20s (also Coulibaly).


Why are the Raptors always picking x in what is clearly a x-1 man draft? The league clearly has it in for us.


I still remember when we were picking 4th in what was a 3 player+ 1 (Suggs) draft. Or picking 9th in what was a 8 player draft (and got Poeltl,Siakam,FVV)
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#187 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:03 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#188 » by mademan » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:04 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Lively might have the highest upside of guys ranked outside the lotto. I'm slightly iff on his compete as he seems too laid back and doesn't really attack his drills during workouts the way you'd like, but you can see the rare skill and talent at that size.

https://youtube.com/shorts/nNtVBldIouk?feature=share



Huge fan of lively. He's that rare special breed of C that's gonna be able to protect the rim on one end and stretch the floor on the other. Teams shy away from drafting and investing into C's, so he might drop, but whoever gets him in the late teens/early 20's is getting a steal.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#189 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:14 pm

DG88 wrote:Full Bilal Coulibaly highlights from the game. Yeah he's definitely going to be a lottery pick now

Read on Twitter
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That is a nice highlight package. His game has evolved in 6 months to what he was doing against U21 competition he can now do against grown men.

Everything everyone here has been saying he can’t do, he just did in that highlight package.

His shot needs to speed up from deep and consistency is going to be critical, but other than that:

catch and shoot - check
Create his own shot - check
Handle - check
Create for others - check
Go & finish left - check

And his defense is already top notch.

I guess the biggest knock now will be size but kid is already size of Mikal Bridges.

Watching this highlight package I thought of a young Scottie Pippen. Yup I said it.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#190 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:17 pm

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mademan wrote:LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)


There's one dude bitching about missing out on Coulibaly, and that Masai will also reach on someone projected in the 20s (also Coulibaly).



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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#191 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:21 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#192 » by C_Money » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:21 pm

Bruin wrote:At this point in time my expectations for Masai are low so I wouldn’t be surprised if he reaches for a guy projected in the 20s at 13


I would prefer if he did go off the board. When you go back and look at these drafts years later, its all over the place. Take who you like the best no matter what the mock drafts say.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#193 » by 720 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:40 pm

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I’d laugh but the truth hurts too much

These two are the same guys that traded a 1st rounder for Thad Young and another 1st rounder for Poeltl. I don’t think they really care.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#194 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Jun 4, 2023 10:03 pm

mademan wrote:LMFAO. I see the board is already lamenting losing out on Coulibaly.

You cant possibly know enough to be upset by this (know that he's not gonna be available, know that the Raps want him or know that he's actually gonna succeed in this league)

A real quote in this thread is:

What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.


This board has lost its **** mind :lol:
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#195 » by Morse Code » Sun Jun 4, 2023 10:03 pm

Some of yall are taking this Bilal thing way too far. Same potential as Sharpe? Wtf

Sharpe has TMac, Vince Carter type fluidity and feel. Bilal is slightly more skilled than OG. There's as much a gap between them skill wise as there is between Jokic and Aron Baynes.

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#196 » by Clutch0z24 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 10:14 pm

Morse Code wrote:Some of yall are taking this Bilal thing way too far. Same potential as Sharpe? Wtf

Sharpe has TMac, Vince Carter type fluidity and feel. Bilal is slightly more skilled than OG. There's as much a gap between them skill wise as there is between Jokic and Aron Baynes.

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Yeah i think people are a little too invested in Bilal as a prospect thinking he will be in the T-Mac/Pippen type mold....I see a good prospect with alot of good qualities in his game at his age but i do not see an explosive scorer in him or someone who is going to develop into a dynamic iso/shooter ever. Which is what could make the difference from an OG level contributor to a Kobe/T-Mac/Carter/Kawhi level of Contributor...

I just see an OG type player in Bilal someone who plays his role well and does the things hes suppose to on the court....But could also be worse than an OG and be a Thabo Sefalosha type with good Defense and does not really develop into an offensive threat at the NBA level...Thats why im baffled so many are tripping if Bilal gets picked ahead of us because we already have the same kinda player in OG who is still only 25 years old lol....

16 points in a game is cool and all but that does not convince me he will be an explosive scorer in the NBA anytime soon.

I wouldn't mind taking the flyer on Bilal at 13 if we traded Siakam or OG for something else but imo no way Barnes/OG/Siakam/Bilal could all exist on the same roster for too long....Someone would need to go.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#197 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jun 4, 2023 10:19 pm

Morse Code wrote:Some of yall are taking this Bilal thing way too far. Same potential as Sharpe? Wtf

Sharpe has TMac, Vince Carter type fluidity and feel. Bilal is slightly more skilled than OG. There's as much a gap between them skill wise as there is between Jokic and Aron Baynes.

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Bilal is actually a really good defender.

Sharpe can shoot and jump but LaVine is a much closer comparison of his ceiling until he shows he can actually play on both sides of the ball.

With that said, I’d love Sharpe on Toronto
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#198 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jun 4, 2023 10:22 pm

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Me being secretly glad that Bilal and Lively are getting top 10 hype so that Cason or Grady Dick can fall to us.

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#199 » by Morse Code » Sun Jun 4, 2023 10:34 pm

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Morse Code wrote:Some of yall are taking this Bilal thing way too far. Same potential as Sharpe? Wtf

Sharpe has TMac, Vince Carter type fluidity and feel. Bilal is slightly more skilled than OG. There's as much a gap between them skill wise as there is between Jokic and Aron Baynes.

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Bilal is actually a really good defender.

Sharpe can shoot and jump but LaVine is a much closer comparison of his ceiling until he shows he can actually play on both sides of the ball.

With that said, I’d love Sharpe on Toronto
Yeah, I'm not comparing these guys but I just think ppl are like oh he's tall and has long arms and is athletic. So many tools!

Deandre Daniels was 6'9 with a 7'2 wingspan and could handle it and score, but he sucked. Again, not comparing the 2, but you have to look at actual skills instead of just assuming they will develop. Dude is long and athletic but his shot is bad, he doesn't seem fluid with the ball, he's not strong enough to be a lockdown defender. Like there's a TON of things that have to go perfectly for him to be what everyone is hoping he will be.

That's not to say it's impossible, but at some point you gotta look at more than just physicals.

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 6 

Post#200 » by Clutch0z24 » Sun Jun 4, 2023 10:35 pm

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I really want Jordan Hawkins but i also see other players in the class i want as well....But man hes in the same mold as Klay/Middleton and these kind of players are so important to a team in todays NBA.
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