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Post#1021 » by Micah Prescott » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:52 pm

Yeah I don't even know how to reply to all that. I'll just say this...

As a fan, you are allowed to think that certain players stink. But you should STILL be rooting for those players to succeed. You should STILL want them to win. *IF* you are of the belief that it is impossible, then I do not see the point. That's basically like where I was when Dak dislocated his ankle and Dalton was our QB, that season became a lost cause so I stopped watching. For you every season is a lost cause and it makes no sense to tune in if that is the case.
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Post#1022 » by Micah Prescott » Sun Jun 4, 2023 9:58 pm

Like if the visual of Dak and Jerry and McCarthy all holding up Dallas' 6th Lombardi Trophy doesn't make you happy, then you have crossed a line you shouldn't have.

You should WANT Jerry to get to the last laugh. You should WANT Dak to prove his haters wrong. If you don't, then you should root for another team who you do want that for.
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Post#1023 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:46 am

Micah Prescott wrote:Like if the visual of Dak and Jerry and McCarthy all holding up Dallas' 6th Lombardi Trophy doesn't make you happy, then you have crossed a line you shouldn't have.

You should WANT Jerry to get to the last laugh. You should WANT Dak to prove his haters wrong. If you don't, then you should root for another team who you do want that for.

You can still be a fan and have zero faith in the current regime. I totally get where BJJ is coming from. We’ve now gone 27 years since their last NFC Championship game. Most of the guys on the team weren’t even born the last time the Cowboys made it to the NFC Championship game. The story is the same year after year. Romo was fun to watch but couldn’t win. Dak showed early promise but to this point hasn’t proven to be any better for than Romo. In spite of all that you still want them to win but until they do it how can you give them credit?

I think where BJJ and I differ is that I know Dak still has time to change the narrative. The Jones’ and Will McClay are putting an elite team around Dak. They should have a top 5 team this year. He HAS to do it though. He has to show us he can win in the playoffs. I can’t call him a winner if he never wins. Prove to me you can win.
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Post#1024 » by Otis Driftwood » Mon Jun 5, 2023 1:37 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:If we give Dak an extension this will phuck over the franchise for another 5 years and you can forget about any super bowl appearance for the next decade. Talk about a slap in the face to Dan Quinn, Micah parsons and the defense and all the very good talent we have acquired the past 3 years. Dan Quinn will have a championship defense when he takes over the team next year. He's not gonna want that bum ruining what he and McClay have built. If they do that I will torch my blue room and burn over $20,000 of vintage memorabilia, jerseys, Cards, etc,. Its extremely hard to remain loyal and support such stupidity. I would be done. Done.
It may not be feasible, but things can happen and/or shake out after next season for an opportunity. I believe nothing is impossible if you really want to win. Money can change hands, deals can be made and billionare owners can make anything happen.

If that's how you feel, then you should stop watching if it affects you that negatively. This **** is suppose to be fun at the very least.

At the end of the day, it's all just entertainment. You have the option of being a participant in it.

If I don't like how an organization that I support is being run, then I'm not going to waste my time. Why should anyone?


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Re: State of Cowboys Union? 

Post#1025 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Jun 5, 2023 3:03 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Like if the visual of Dak and Jerry and McCarthy all holding up Dallas' 6th Lombardi Trophy doesn't make you happy, then you have crossed a line you shouldn't have.

You should WANT Jerry to get to the last laugh. You should WANT Dak to prove his haters wrong. If you don't, then you should root for another team who you do want that for.

You can still be a fan and have zero faith in the current regime. I totally get where BJJ is coming from. We’ve now gone 27 years since their last NFC Championship game. Most of the guys on the team weren’t even born the last time the Cowboys made it to the NFC Championship game. The story is the same year after year. Romo was fun to watch but couldn’t win. Dak showed early promise but to this point hasn’t proven to be any better for than Romo. In spite of all that you still want them to win but until they do it how can you give them credit?

I think where BJJ and I differ is that I know Dak still has time to change the narrative. The Jones’ and Will McClay are putting an elite team around Dak. They should have a top 5 team this year. He HAS to do it though. He has to show us he can win in the playoffs. I can’t call him a winner if he never wins. Prove to me you can win.

True you can be a fan and have no faith, that is probably where Browns fans are every year. But they still ROOT for success. BJJ does not do that, his entire schtick is to prove that we can not win with Dak or Jerry or McCarthy. He is out to watch them fail so that he can say "see I told you that dumb Dak can't do it". And if you are coming at it from that angle you are NOT a fan, sorry.

Another thing, the 27-28 years keeps being brought up, which is a long time I agree, and every fan is frustrated over. However, all things equal, there are 32 teams in the NFL which would average out to 1 ring every 32 years for every team. This franchise has 5 rings, 3 under Jerry, and the highest winning percentage in the entire league. Most teams in the NFL would gladly trade their history for ours.
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Post#1026 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Jun 5, 2023 3:41 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:If we give Dak an extension this will phuck over the franchise for another 5 years and you can forget about any super bowl appearance for the next decade. Talk about a slap in the face to Dan Quinn, Micah parsons and the defense and all the very good talent we have acquired the past 3 years. Dan Quinn will have a championship defense when he takes over the team next year. He's not gonna want that bum ruining what he and McClay have built. If they do that I will torch my blue room and burn over $20,000 of vintage memorabilia, jerseys, Cards, etc,. Its extremely hard to remain loyal and support such stupidity. I would be done. Done.
It may not be feasible, but things can happen and/or shake out after next season for an opportunity. I believe nothing is impossible if you really want to win. Money can change hands, deals can be made and billionare owners can make anything happen.

If that's how you feel, then you should stop watching if it affects you that negatively. This **** is suppose to be fun at the very least.

At the end of the day, it's all just entertainment. You have the option of being a participant in it.

If I don't like how an organization that I support is being run, then I'm not going to waste my time. Why should anyone?

I did that once in the middle 70's when I started to get a little older and understand sports. My grandparents tried to bring me up a Red Sox fan. The Yawkey's and their leadership was too much for me to take so I became a Cardinal fan and turned my back. It will be much harder to turn my back on the Celtic and Cowboys if it ever gets to that point. John Havlicek and Roger Staubach were my first 2 idols as a kid so that makes it much harder. I guess if I want to be totally transparent here, I really love what Dan Quinn and Will McClay has done lately. I really love what they did in the off season, the draft and the FA's they aquired. For the first time in over 2 decades I have this overwhelming man crush on this defense and can't wait to see them week 1.
On the flip side, I hate and loathe Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott beyond passion. That is where all my frustration, negativity, hate, anger, etc., comes from. Dak isn't the guy and I don't care what any of you have to say about him. Regardless, I will still be there every week and watching the games and even rooting for numb nuts even though I know he will fail in the end. I'm sorry, the NFL is a QB and coaches league and we have neither, and to me this is the only weakness I see going into the season team wise. Only other thing I hate as you guys already know, is Jerry. Jerry, Dak and Mike are the problems to me. Get rid of all of them and maybe I can sleep again. Perhaps have sex again. Hell, maybe even blink for a change. Watching Jerry, his family and the front office culture the past 27 years is where 90% of my frustration derives. I hate seeing all this talent we get once a while go to waste and that's what I'm afraid of going into next season Jerry, Mike and especially Dumb Dak. To me Dak is just another Baker Mayfield.
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Post#1027 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:55 pm

Yeah there are multiple facets to this where you are flawed, you shouldn't "hate and loathe" anyone in this game "beyond passion".

It's just a game. Entertainment. Like Cactus said. If you have legit hatred for any of these people then you take this game too seriously.

The only Cowboys players I have ever hated are players like Greg Hardy because they are just bad humans but that goes beyond the game itself. Aside from throwing a ball, Dak is a good human being. He is very easy to like as a person and you can tell his intentions are genuine.
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Post#1028 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:59 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I did that once in the middle 70's when I started to get a little older and understand sports. My grandparents tried to bring me up a Red Sox fan. The Yawkey's and their leadership was too much for me to take so I became a Cardinal fan and turned my back. It will be much harder to turn my back on the Celtic and Cowboys if it ever gets to that point. John Havlicek and Roger Staubach were my first 2 idols as a kid so that makes it much harder. I guess if I want to be totally transparent here, I really love what Dan Quinn and Will McClay has done lately. I really love what they did in the off season, the draft and the FA's they aquired. For the first time in over 2 decades I have this overwhelming man crush on this defense and can't wait to see them week 1.
On the flip side, I hate and loathe Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott beyond passion. That is where all my frustration, negativity, hate, anger, etc., comes from. Dak isn't the guy and I don't care what any of you have to say about him. Regardless, I will still be there every week and watching the games and even rooting for numb nuts even though I know he will fail in the end. I'm sorry, the NFL is a QB and coaches league and we have neither, and to me this is the only weakness I see going into the season team wise. Only other thing I hate as you guys already know, is Jerry. Jerry, Dak and Mike are the problems to me. Get rid of all of them and maybe I can sleep again. Perhaps have sex again. Hell, maybe even blink for a change. Watching Jerry, his family and the front office culture the past 27 years is where 90% of my frustration derives. I hate seeing all this talent we get once a while go to waste and that's what I'm afraid of going into next season Jerry, Mike and especially Dumb Dak. To me Dak is just another Baker Mayfield.

Dak>>>Baker

I've said this to you many times, but Dak is very similar to Wilson imo. Both are good QB's. But not elite.

You can absolutely win with Dak, but you need to surround him with great players. The Cowboys already have a very good defense. Which helps.

The issue that I have is paying guys like that a lot of money. Which is why I've advocated for going young & cheap at the position.

The Hawks played in two Super Bowls because they had the best defense in Football. Russ was also making peanuts at the time. So the roster was also stacked. You had guys who we're backups that could start for most teams.

Once Russ got paid, the roster started to decline. As guys got older & started to leave. It then became more about Russ & that limited the teams ceiling.

The mistake they made was trying to make it work with Wilson for far too long. They couldn't pay him & put together a great roster at the same time. It wasn't working.
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Post#1029 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:08 pm

Yep Dallas needs a Legion of Boom and then Dak can go through what Wilson did. I do think however that the Rams proved you can win with a combo of ONLY a "good offense" and "good defense" . They were not elite on either side of the ball. And Stafford is not an elite QB.

There were absolutely plenty of BJJs in Detroit declaring that you can't win a ring with Stafford.
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Post#1030 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:20 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Yep Dallas needs a Legion of Boom and then Dak can go through what Wilson did. I do think however that the Rams proved you can win with a combo of ONLY a "good offense" and "good defense" . They were not elite on either side of the ball. And Stafford is not an elite QB.

There were absolutely plenty of BJJs in Detroit declaring that you can't win a ring with Stafford.

Having Cooper Kupp & Aaron Donald didn't hurt either.

Look, you absolutely can win with guys like that. But you need a very strong roster with some studs & a little luck along the way.
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Post#1031 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:25 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Like if the visual of Dak and Jerry and McCarthy all holding up Dallas' 6th Lombardi Trophy doesn't make you happy, then you have crossed a line you shouldn't have.

You should WANT Jerry to get to the last laugh. You should WANT Dak to prove his haters wrong. If you don't, then you should root for another team who you do want that for.

You can still be a fan and have zero faith in the current regime. I totally get where BJJ is coming from. We’ve now gone 27 years since their last NFC Championship game. Most of the guys on the team weren’t even born the last time the Cowboys made it to the NFC Championship game. The story is the same year after year. Romo was fun to watch but couldn’t win. Dak showed early promise but to this point hasn’t proven to be any better for than Romo. In spite of all that you still want them to win but until they do it how can you give them credit?

I think where BJJ and I differ is that I know Dak still has time to change the narrative. The Jones’ and Will McClay are putting an elite team around Dak. They should have a top 5 team this year. He HAS to do it though. He has to show us he can win in the playoffs. I can’t call him a winner if he never wins. Prove to me you can win.

True you can be a fan and have no faith, that is probably where Browns fans are every year. But they still ROOT for success. BJJ does not do that, his entire schtick is to prove that we can not win with Dak or Jerry or McCarthy. He is out to watch them fail so that he can say "see I told you that dumb Dak can't do it". And if you are coming at it from that angle you are NOT a fan, sorry.

Another thing, the 27-28 years keeps being brought up, which is a long time I agree, and every fan is frustrated over. However, all things equal, there are 32 teams in the NFL which would average out to 1 ring every 32 years for every team. This franchise has 5 rings, 3 under Jerry, and the highest winning percentage in the entire league. Most teams in the NFL would gladly trade their history for ours.

I'm not out to watch them fail. I've been watching them fail for the past 3 years. That is two different things. And there you go again, putting words into my mouth thinking you know how I feel. Watching them fail and predicting they can only go so far is not hoping they will fail. I haven't had any faith in Dak which I started posting about 3 years ago and I still have no faith in him moving forward. In Jerry's case its going on year 28 of failure.
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Post#1032 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:32 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Yep Dallas needs a Legion of Boom and then Dak can go through what Wilson did. I do think however that the Rams proved you can win with a combo of ONLY a "good offense" and "good defense" . They were not elite on either side of the ball. And Stafford is not an elite QB.

There were absolutely plenty of BJJs in Detroit declaring that you can't win a ring with Stafford.

Having Cooper Kupp & Aaron Donald didn't hurt either.

Look, you absolutely can win with guys like that. But you need a very strong roster with some studs & a little luck along the way.

Rams didn't only have Donald, they also had a pro bowl stud in Von Miller and a stud Pro bowl CB in Jaylen Ramsey. The Rams defense was elite that year. They also had a stud OG that retired after they won the SB but I can't remember his name.
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Post#1033 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:48 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Yep Dallas needs a Legion of Boom and then Dak can go through what Wilson did. I do think however that the Rams proved you can win with a combo of ONLY a "good offense" and "good defense" . They were not elite on either side of the ball. And Stafford is not an elite QB.

There were absolutely plenty of BJJs in Detroit declaring that you can't win a ring with Stafford.

Having Cooper Kupp & Aaron Donald didn't hurt either.

Look, you absolutely can win with guys like that. But you need a very strong roster with some studs & a little luck along the way.

Rams didn't only have Donald, they also had a pro bowl stud in Von Miller and a stud Pro bowl CB in Jaylen Ramsey. They also had a stud OG that retired after they won the SB but I can't remember his name.

Exactly, they had a bunch of studs. Kupp was the best receiver in Football that year.

When Whitworth retired, their O-line couldn't block anyone last year. Huge difference.
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Post#1034 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Jun 5, 2023 6:05 pm

Aaron Donald was and is an elite player, but that Rams defense was not elite. They were "good". Hell Ramsey probably had the worst game of his career in the Super Bowl.

The Rams defense was #17 overall in yardage allowed and 15th overall in points allowed.

At the end of the day points are all that matters and there were 14 other defenses that year that gave up less points.

Their offense was also "good" but not elite. Same story as the defense.

They were just "good" on both sides of the ball with some key players like Kupp and Donald.
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Post#1035 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Jun 5, 2023 6:14 pm

Also I don't think many fans comprehend just how bad Peyton Manning was as a QB the year he won a ring with Denver. He was literally the worst starting QB in the entire NFL.

He had the very lowest passer rating (67.9) and 17 INTs (#2 overall) over just 10 games.

He was absolutely horrid, worse than Baker Mayfield if that is the gauge we are using lol.

Denver had a top-5 defense that year and won a ring on just that alone.
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Post#1036 » by Otis Driftwood » Mon Jun 5, 2023 6:40 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Also I don't think many fans comprehend just how bad Peyton Manning was as a QB the year he won a ring with Denver. He was literally the worst starting QB in the entire NFL.

He had the very lowest passer rating (67.9) and 17 INTs (#2 overall) over just 10 games.

He was absolutely horrid, worse than Baker Mayfield if that is the gauge we are using lol.

Denver had a top-5 defense that year and won a ring on just that alone.


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Post#1037 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Jun 5, 2023 7:09 pm

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Post#1038 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Jun 9, 2023 4:02 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Like if the visual of Dak and Jerry and McCarthy all holding up Dallas' 6th Lombardi Trophy doesn't make you happy, then you have crossed a line you shouldn't have.

You should WANT Jerry to get to the last laugh. You should WANT Dak to prove his haters wrong. If you don't, then you should root for another team who you do want that for.

Don't bet any money on it. Jerry has been getting the last laugh year after year. He still has the most valuable franchise in the world and keeps rolling in the cash despite not delivering for 28 years. He has you new generation fans wrapped around his smegma stained fingers thinking he is a God that can do no wrong.
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Post#1039 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Jun 9, 2023 9:14 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Like if the visual of Dak and Jerry and McCarthy all holding up Dallas' 6th Lombardi Trophy doesn't make you happy, then you have crossed a line you shouldn't have.

You should WANT Jerry to get to the last laugh. You should WANT Dak to prove his haters wrong. If you don't, then you should root for another team who you do want that for.

Don't bet any money on it. Jerry has been getting the last laugh year after year. He still has the most valuable franchise in the world and keeps rolling in the cash despite not delivering for 28 years. He has you new generation fans wrapped around his smegma stained fingers thinking he is a God that can do no wrong.

Yes or no, would you be happy to see Jerry to get a 6th ring and prove his doubters wrong?
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Post#1040 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:43 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Like if the visual of Dak and Jerry and McCarthy all holding up Dallas' 6th Lombardi Trophy doesn't make you happy, then you have crossed a line you shouldn't have.

You should WANT Jerry to get to the last laugh. You should WANT Dak to prove his haters wrong. If you don't, then you should root for another team who you do want that for.

Don't bet any money on it. Jerry has been getting the last laugh year after year. He still has the most valuable franchise in the world and keeps rolling in the cash despite not delivering for 28 years. He has you new generation fans wrapped around his smegma stained fingers thinking he is a God that can do no wrong.

Yes or no, would you be happy to see Jerry to get a 6th ring and prove his doubters wrong?

You mean his 4th ring. The other 2 rings and Super Bowls, NFL Championship games and 12 NFC title Games in 17 years came under Clint Murchinson with Tom Landry making all the calls.
I guess hypotheticals, dreams and imagining things is all you have left when it comes to your boy and Jerry. Not buying into it. I've seen the Cowboys schedule and I see them having a hard time winning nine games unless this defense turns out to be a lights out unit like the 1986 Bears.
I feel my frustration will continue for at least another year because I think this team is the best team we've had since 1996. I have absolutely no faith in your Boy and McCarthy. And then there is Jerry. Between the 3 of them they will find away to phuck it all up. But I will still watch them every week before I watch the other games and the Chiefs. Dak has been telling us for 8 years, its his fault, I got to get better, etc., He hasn't got better. He hit his ceiling 4 years ago. We can't win and go the the NFC Championship game or Super Bowl with those two bozo's.

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