Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread

[DCZards]

Houston also drafted like idiots. Kevin Porter was a walking red flag, why try and build around him?

Jabari Smith over Keegan Murray? Jalen Green over Suggs&Mobley?

Is it having too many young players? Or being a dumb organization?

Keegan Murray has talent and had a great season. It didn’t hurt that he was surrounded by proven pros like Sabonis, Fox and Barnes. Murray turns 23 in August.

Jabari Smith just turned 20 this month. He played on a young, directionless Houston team. Smith might still turn out to be as good or better than Murray.

Porter Jr. is definitely a headcase. Houston got him from Cleveland for a top 55 protected second round pick, which was a sound risk on their part given Porter’s immense talent. Hopefully, he’ll get his act together sooner rather than later.

Taking Jalen Green over Mobley was a mistake on the part of Houston.

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...Kuzma ... I think he gets his deal and probably wants to be traded as soon as the bag is secured. The only reason he didn't ask for a trade is the agent knew that his chance to get as much money as he could was with Tommy and Ted, cuz they have a track record of doing so....

This is very thoughtful, gamby. Who knows if it's 100%, but some truth to it I bet....

[Wizardspride]

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[9 and 20]

Wild offseason prediction - Beal and Embiid both end up on the Knicks. Knicks have a bunch of draft picks over the next few years, mostly protected but still first rounders. Plus a handful of young guys. The best of the bunch of picks and players go to Philly and whatever's left goes to DC for Beal. New York is always chasing the big names and this is their big swing.

[mhd]

Wild offseason prediction - Beal and Embiid both end up on the Knicks. Knicks have a bunch of draft picks over the next few years, mostly protected but still first rounders. Plus a handful of young guys. The best of the bunch of picks and players go to Philly and whatever's left goes to DC for Beal. New York is always chasing the big names and this is their big swing.

Philly isn’t trading Embiid in the division. Doubt they are trading him considering they just hired Nurse

[tleikheen]

Management is set ........ 1st order of business of running the Wiz , sign and trades to upgrade on draft position. Who will management set their hopes on ..... trading for Anfernee Simons , moving up to get Amen Thompson as the new PG.

[Halcyon]

Beal is gone, right?

[Dat2U]

Beal is gone, right?

Probably not till next trade deadline unless one his favs gets aggressive (Bos, Phi, Mia, Dal or possibly NY).

[pcbothwel]

Beal is gone, right?

Probably not till next trade deadline unless one his favs gets aggressive (Bos, Phi, Mia, Dal or possibly NY).

Completely agree. We can certainly afford to wait on moving Beal. But Dallas and Philly need to make decisions this summer.Beals salary makes things very complicated in the summer. The draft, Kuz, and KP need to be dealt with now.

[FAH1223]

Beal is gone, right?

Probably not till next trade deadline unless one his favs gets aggressive (Bos, Phi, Mia, Dal or possibly NY).

Completely agree. We can certainly afford to wait on moving Beal. But Dallas and Philly need to make decisions this summer.Beals salary makes things very complicated in the summer. The draft, Kuz, and KP need to be dealt with now.

The new CBA is not being talked about enough here. The era of superteams is going to quickly end with most contenders only able to have two max salary slots rather than gunning for three.

Beal's salary is big right now. It'll look a little better when the new TV deal is negotiated next year. Which sounds like the league is going to further squeeze Disney (ABC/ESPN), Warner Brothers Discovery (TNT, TBS, NBATV) and bring in more broadcast partners (Amazon? Comcast via NBC/USA Network/Peacock?).

The cap will steadily rise with smoothing rather than the chaos of 2016.

So I think the inevitable Beal trade is happening next summer. His favorites don't have a ton of assets. The Knicks really are the only ones with substantial draft capital right now.

But we also are not considering the possibility that Brad will never waive his NTC. He may never want to leave DC. He holds all the cards here.

[9 and 20]

Wild speculation - Beal to the Lakers for salary filler, even if it's a D'Angelo Russell sign and trade on a one year deal, and those draft picks several years out. Winger and crew have the job security to make that kind of trade. Also kind of hamstrung by the NTC on the teams Beal will go to. Maybe the Lakers have the salary to do a trade without a sign and trade so we get this year's pick.

[nate33]

Beal is gone, right?

Probably not till next trade deadline unless one his favs gets aggressive (Bos, Phi, Mia, Dal or possibly NY).

I assume Beal is now "on the block". Whether or not he is "gone" will depend on the offers available. Do they think it's easier to move him in the offseason when teams have cap room and a will to make major changes? Or will it be easier to move him mid-season when teams have more guys under contract to serve as salary filler?

[nate33]

But we also are not considering the possibility that Brad will never waive his NTC. He may never want to leave DC. He holds all the cards here.

I just don't see this scenario as realistic. If the Wizards commit to rebuilding, why in the world would Beal stay here if he is unwanted and the team is going to lose with or without him?

I figure the worst case scenario is Beal will leverage the NTC to make sure that any trade suitor doesn't empty the cupboard of assets in a Beal trade (so that Beal's new team is more likely to contend in Beal's window). So that means we wouldn't get back any useful win-now assets in return. But we don't really want win-now assets anyway.

[nate33]

Wild speculation - Beal to the Lakers for salary filler, even if it's a D'Angelo Russell sign and trade on a one year deal, and those draft picks several years out. Winger and crew have the job security to make that kind of trade. Also kind of hamstrung by the NTC on the teams Beal will go to. Maybe the Lakers have the salary to do a trade without a sign and trade so we get this year's pick.

They don't have the salary filler to make the trade and give us this year's pick. We would be trading Beal for DLo, Bamba, Beasley and the 2029 1st. That's a pretty horrible return. If that's the best offer available this summer, I would expect Winger/Dawkins to punt on an offseason trade and wait until December 15th next season to see what's out there.

[nate33]

A nice start for a rebuild would be for Amen to slip to #8, and for Deni to finally click as a 3-point shooter and start making 35% of his shots. I'd be pretty happy going into the season with a starting lineup of:

PG Thompson
SG Beal
SF Kispert
PF Avdija
C Porzingis

Move Morris, Wright, Gafford and Kuzma for whatever we can. And get Beal on the trade block on December 15th. Hopefully, Davis has an Otto Porter-like progression from an awful rookie to a very respectable 2nd year player.

[NatP4]

A nice start for a rebuild would be for Amen to slip to #8, and for Deni to finally click as a 3-point shooter and start making 35% of his shots. I'd be pretty happy going into the season with a starting lineup of:

PG Thompson
SG Beal
SF Kispert
PF Avdija
C Porzingis

Move Morris, Wright, Gafford and Kuzma for whatever we can. And get Beal on the trade block on December 15th. Hopefully, Davis has an Otto Porter-like progression from an awful rookie to a very respectable 2nd year player.

Been having the same thoughts about the roster fit around Amen. I personally feel that he’s a superstar talent and “missing piece” type.

Would like to see Morris to LAC for 30, and find a way to land Podziemski.

Amen Wright
Kispert Podziemski
Beal Davis Jackson
Avdija Kuzma Cooks
Porzingis Gafford

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Shooting for the #3 pick here, could we swap Beal for Simons in order to go from #8 to #3? If not, what else would we need to add? Might need to involve Boston in this somehow to get Beal somewhere he actually wants to be, and Brown goes to Portland.

[nate33]

Shooting for the #3 pick here, could we swap Beal for Simons in order to go from #8 to #3? If not, what else would we need to add? Might need to involve Boston in this somehow to get Beal somewhere he actually wants to be, and Brown goes to Portland.

I don't think Beal is worth a high lotto pick at his salary. I don't even think Beal + #8 gets us to #3. Also, I don't think Portland has any real interest in Beal because it merely recreates the Lillard/McCollum problem of having two bad defenders in the backcourt. Boston has similar problems with a Beal for Brown trade. They're loaded at guard and don't need more of them. If a Boston deal happens, a third team needs to get involved to land them a viable starting forward with one or both of Brogdon and Smart going out.

If you want to trade Beal for a pick in this draft, I think the best you're going to do is something around the 10-11 range (Dallas or Orlando).

[DCZards]

Also, I don't think Portland has any real interest in Beal because it merely recreates the Lillard/McCollum problem of having two bad defenders in the backcourt.

Agreed. I keep seeing these proposed Beal & #8 for Simons & #3 trades and I can’t for the life of me figure out what makes people think Portland would want to team Lillard with Beal.

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A nice start for a rebuild would be for Amen to slip to #8, and for Deni to finally click as a 3-point shooter and start making 35% of his shots. I'd be pretty happy going into the season with a starting lineup of:

PG Thompson
SG Beal
SF Kispert
PF Avdija
C Porzingis

Move Morris, Wright, Gafford and Kuzma for whatever we can. And get Beal on the trade block on December 15th. Hopefully, Davis has an Otto Porter-like progression from an awful rookie to a very respectable 2nd year player.

I'll say that would be a nice start!

Now let's have Podziemski fall to 42 & grab Oscar Tshiebwe at 57 & then the both of them be as good in the NBA as they've been in college!

While we're at it, we might as well sign Kobe Brown undrafted. Maybe D'Moi Hodge as well...?