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Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#1 » by clyde21 » Wed May 31, 2023 5:35 am

alright let's do it, your top 5 most underrated / overrated players of the class

Underrated
1 Keyonte George
2 Julian Phillips
3 Trey Alexander
4 Terrence Shannon Jr.
5 Reece Beekman

Overrated
1 Amen Thompson
2 Brandon Miller
3 Sidy Cissoko
4 Brice Sensabaugh
5 Rayan Rupert

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overrated was much tougher b/c I like these guys on some level, just relative to where a lot of people have them projected, for example most people have Amen/Miller in the top 4 and imo a bit too rich for either, more palatable after 5 imo.
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#2 » by EMG518 » Wed May 31, 2023 7:18 am

Based off of Bleacher Reports Mock


Underrated

16.Bilal Coulibaly
18.Brice Sensabaugh
20.Jett Howard
26.Jalen Hood Schifino
28.Brandin Podziemski




Overrated

5.Cam Whitmore
11.Gradey Dick
12.Jordan Hawkins
13.Keyontae George
14.Nick Smith Jr
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#3 » by jezzerinho » Wed May 31, 2023 8:44 am

Under
Colby Jones
Ricky Council
Amen Thompson
Jalen Hood-Schifino
N Smith Jr


Overrated
Scoot (with respect to him being a franchise lockand auto #2)
Leonard Miller
GG Jackson
Hendricks
Dick
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#4 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed May 31, 2023 9:22 am

Let's do it

Underrated:
Cason Wallace
Kobe Bufkin
Colby Jones
Keyontae Johnson
Jarace Walker

Overrated:
Gradey Dick
Ausar Thompson
Bilal Coulibaly
Noah Clowney
Trayce Jackson-Davis
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#5 » by SeattleJazzFan » Wed May 31, 2023 6:04 pm

underrated:
hawkins
leonard miller
Keyontae Johnson
ausar
Podz

overrated:
Scoot
amen
dick
sensabaugh
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#6 » by CptCrunch » Wed May 31, 2023 8:33 pm

At this rate, half the board here will look like dumbasses if Amen hits as a prospect. Reddit nba_draft is about 95/5 with Amen bring a top 4 prospect.

Overrated based on ESPN mock:
4. Amen
12. Smith Jr
6. Ausar
9. Hood-Schifino
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#7 » by EvanZ » Wed May 31, 2023 8:42 pm

CptCrunch wrote:At this rate, half the board here will look like dumbasses if Amen hits as a prospect. Reddit nba_draft is about 95/5 with Amen bring a top 4 prospect.

Overrated based on ESPN mock:
4. Amen
12. Smith Jr
6. Ausar
9. Hood-Schifino


Totally agree with these and I'd add Cam too.

Underrated is Mo Gueye who's not even on Givony's mock. Unbelievable. Also Amari Bailey 30 spots behind Kobe Bufkin is ludicrous. I'd probably add Bufkin to the overrated list at this point. Jarace is fairly overrated as well. Bilabong Coulilaby and RayAnne Rupert Murdoch also highly overrated.

Cason Wallace highly underrated at this point. Leonard Miller probably underrated as well, although maybe I'm just irrationally high on him. Lively was underrated but now he's moving up to a deluxe apartment in the sky where he belongs.
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#8 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:29 am

3/5 of my underrated guys are returning to school (Trey, TJ, Reece)...gonna need to make a new list.
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#9 » by babyjax13 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 3:35 am

Over:
Kris Murray
Nick Smith
GG Jackson
Brice Sensabaugh
Trayce Jackson-Davis

Under
Keyonte George
Kobe Brown
Dariq Whitehead
Ricky Council
Isaiah Wong
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#10 » by The Moose » Thu Jun 1, 2023 4:12 am

based off the latest ESPN mock from today

Overrated:
Cam Whitmore
JHS
Ausar
Nick Smith
Rupert

Underrated:
Brice
Cason
Podziemski
TJD
Jacquez
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#11 » by eyriq » Thu Jun 1, 2023 4:18 am

Underrated
Keyonte
Podziemski
Wallace
Cissoko
Ausar


Overrated
NSJ
Sensabaugh
Brandon Miller
Hawkins
Whitmore
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#12 » by Nuntius » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:01 pm

The fact that a number of players appear on both the underrated and the overrated sections of the replies in here indicates how subjective this draft is. It really looks like a lot of players are very close together in value and what separates them are our own stylistical preferences.
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#13 » by Nuntius » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:02 pm

EvanZ wrote:Bilabong Coulilaby and RayAnne Rupert Murdoch also highly overrated.


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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#14 » by Felixians4 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 6:01 pm

Jordan Walsh, Dereck Lively, Mike Miles, Jordan Hawkins, Juan Nunez

Overrated?
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#15 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Jun 5, 2023 12:38 am

Based on where guys are mocked

Underrated: Clowney, Whitehead, Sheppard, Gueye, Clark

Overrated: Whitmore, Dick, Bufkin, Cissoko
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#16 » by shakes0 » Mon Jun 5, 2023 6:04 pm

underrated based on this thread: Grady Dick
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#17 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Jun 5, 2023 9:02 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:Based on where guys are mocked

Underrated: Clowney, Whitehead, Sheppard, Gueye, Clark

Overrated: Whitmore, Dick, Bufkin, Cissoko


Hasn't Cissoko been mocked in the 2nd round for the past few weeks?
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#18 » by King Ken » Tue Jun 6, 2023 5:22 am

Underrated: Cissoko, Bilal, Podz, Jarace Walker, and Oscar T.
Overrated: JSH, Whitmore, Hawkins, Rupert, and Jett Howard.
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#19 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Jun 6, 2023 2:50 pm

Is it possible to go from underrated to overrated in a matter of weeks?

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Ben Sheppard Goes Top 20



Ben Sheppard spent the past season putting up big numbers, but since he compiled them at Belmont—and never faced a ranked team—NBA teams were perhaps uncertain how much stock to put in those stats.

Then, Sheppard took a blowtorch to his competition at the combine, and it appears everyone is finally on board.

You could argue they should have been there all along. It's hard to sneeze at any Division I hooper going for 18.8 points a night while shooting 47.5 percent from the field and 41.5 percent from distance. But for those numbers to come from a 6'6" guard who can run pick-and-rolls, score on the move and defend multiple positions, you'd think this league would be all over him.

Maybe they will be after he cooked his competition at the combine. In his final scrimmage, he erupted for 25 points on 8-of-10 shooting (3-of-5 from range) with four rebounds, three assists and two steals in 20 minutes.

He looks like a plug-and-play, starting-caliber 2-guard at the NBA level. Teams won't let a prospect like that sit on the board for too long.

You may not see Sheppard listed on every mock first round you'll find, but when the real event gets rolling, he'll be among the top 20 players selected.
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Re: Top 5 most underrated / overrated players in 23 draft 

Post#20 » by clyde21 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:53 pm

^ yes - Ben Sheppard top 20 talk is nonsense.

updated list for me after returnees:

Underrated
1 Anthony Black
2 Keyonte George
3 Julian Phillips
4 Andre Jackson Jr.
5 Tristan Vukcevic

Overrated
1 Amen Thompson
2 Brandon Miller
3 Sidy Cissoko
4 Brice Sensabaugh
5 Rayan Rupert

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