Identity crisis?

[urinesane]

Also, I don't agree that they got destroyed by small ball lineups, partially because KAT played so few games with Gobert, but the GSW game in GS proved imo that the two big lineup can work. They just need to work together as a unit, rather than individual pieces (that game was beautiful), which I think more than anything comes with time and experience with each other.

If I am not mistaken GSW wiped the floor with our two big lineup at the beginning of season (McDaniels did not play that game). They ran in transition like crazy and made us suffer with screens on perimeter. We lost rebounding battle as well... We were big at C, kind of big and slow at PF, but we were played "small" at other positions: Rivers, DLo, Nowell and Forbes got minutes. Maybe here we will continue turnaround from scoring-first undersized, low effort backcourt to more physical, more focused backcourt Edwards-Conley-NAW-Moore

I'm talking about the one at the end of the season where KAT hit the winning 3. They played great team defense and won in an incredibly difficult environment in a very important game.

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[minimus]

Also, I don't agree that they got destroyed by small ball lineups, partially because KAT played so few games with Gobert, but the GSW game in GS proved imo that the two big lineup can work. They just need to work together as a unit, rather than individual pieces (that game was beautiful), which I think more than anything comes with time and experience with each other.

If I am not mistaken GSW wiped the floor with our two big lineup at the beginning of season (McDaniels did not play that game). They ran in transition like crazy and made us suffer with screens on perimeter. We lost rebounding battle as well... We were big at C, kind of big and slow at PF, but we were played "small" at other positions: Rivers, DLo, Nowell and Forbes got minutes. Maybe here we will continue turnaround from scoring-first undersized, low effort backcourt to more physical, more focused backcourt Edwards-Conley-NAW-Moore

I'm talking about the one at the end of the season where KAT hit the winning 3. They played great team defense and won in an incredibly difficult environment in a very important game.

Dis:

Watch on YouTube

Yes, I remember that game. Although Wiggins did not play for them, meanwhile we had healthy roster.

[minimus]

Also, I don't agree that they got destroyed by small ball lineups, partially because KAT played so few games with Gobert, but the GSW game in GS proved imo that the two big lineup can work. They just need to work together as a unit, rather than individual pieces (that game was beautiful), which I think more than anything comes with time and experience with each other.

If I am not mistaken GSW wiped the floor with our two big lineup at the beginning of season (McDaniels did not play that game). They ran in transition like crazy and made us suffer with screens on perimeter. We lost rebounding battle as well... We were big at C, kind of big and slow at PF, but we were played "small" at other positions: Rivers, DLo, Nowell and Forbes got minutes. Maybe here we will continue turnaround from scoring-first undersized, low effort backcourt to more physical, more focused backcourt Edwards-Conley-NAW-Moore

People took away way too much negative from the first quarter of the season imo. We thought Utah was going to be horrible (they weren't), OKC was horrible (they weren't), and while dropping 2 of 3 to the Spurs hurt, they weren't bad early either.

Well, there were bad games in the middle of the season and in the end of the season. For instance, losses against DET, HOU, CHA and POR. Yes we can say that Towns was not playing 52 games, but he is not a physical player either. I am not trying to beat dead horse here, but all these teams were playing fast and small. We could not punish them with size, we could not run as much as they did, we could not outgun them and we certainly lacked effort.

[urinesane]

If I am not mistaken GSW wiped the floor with our two big lineup at the beginning of season (McDaniels did not play that game). They ran in transition like crazy and made us suffer with screens on perimeter. We lost rebounding battle as well... We were big at C, kind of big and slow at PF, but we were played "small" at other positions: Rivers, DLo, Nowell and Forbes got minutes. Maybe here we will continue turnaround from scoring-first undersized, low effort backcourt to more physical, more focused backcourt Edwards-Conley-NAW-Moore

I'm talking about the one at the end of the season where KAT hit the winning 3. They played great team defense and won in an incredibly difficult environment in a very important game.

Dis:

Watch on YouTube

Yes, I remember that game. Although Wiggins did not play for them, meanwhile we had healthy roster.

What is the point of even replying to you?

[minimus]

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In many ways I believe that this is how Finch envisioned MIN offense before this season. A mix between five-out/DHO game and some pick-n-rolls. Or out in other words SAC/DEN offense + UTA offense under Snyder. But one thing is clearly lacking - elite shooting and decision making. We dont have Huerter type of shooter, we dont have Murray/Porter type of shooter who can activate DHO game at full speed. Also I kind of expected Towns to dominate in postups against smaller opponents, but he was not nearly effective as Jokic and Sabas in this regard

[TimberKat]

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In many ways I believe that this is how Finch envisioned MIN offense before this season. A mix between five-out/DHO game and some pick-n-rolls. Or out in other words SAC/DEN offense + UTA offense under Snyder. But one thing is clearly lacking - elite shooting and decision making. We dont have Huerter type of shooter, we dont have Murray/Porter type of shooter who can activate DHO game at full speed. Also I kind of expected Towns to dominate in postups against smaller opponents, but he was not nearly effective as Jokic and Sabas in this regard

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

[Devilzsidewalk]

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In many ways I believe that this is how Finch envisioned MIN offense before this season. A mix between five-out/DHO game and some pick-n-rolls. Or out in other words SAC/DEN offense + UTA offense under Snyder. But one thing is clearly lacking - elite shooting and decision making. We dont have Huerter type of shooter, we dont have Murray/Porter type of shooter who can activate DHO game at full speed. Also I kind of expected Towns to dominate in postups against smaller opponents, but he was not nearly effective as Jokic and Sabas in this regard

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

Good breakdown. I think KAT has to be Jokic though. Gobert can't, teams won't respect him away from the rim and will just drop off to help. I've wanted before to see KAT go all-out and just try to be an off-ball shooter, but he just doesn't seem to have anywhere close to the explosive movements changing direction and gas tank to pull it off. I really wonder what his offseason workout regimen is like. He seems out of breath a lot, not very strong in the lower body, high and hunched over in his defensive stance and using flailing arms to play defense rather than great footwork...it's pretty suspect.

[urinesane]

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In many ways I believe that this is how Finch envisioned MIN offense before this season. A mix between five-out/DHO game and some pick-n-rolls. Or out in other words SAC/DEN offense + UTA offense under Snyder. But one thing is clearly lacking - elite shooting and decision making. We dont have Huerter type of shooter, we dont have Murray/Porter type of shooter who can activate DHO game at full speed. Also I kind of expected Towns to dominate in postups against smaller opponents, but he was not nearly effective as Jokic and Sabas in this regard

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

[Devilzsidewalk]

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

super duper fun fact: Finch's 1st 3 years w/ the Wolves has a better winning % than Malone's 1st 3 years with the Nugz

[minimus]

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In many ways I believe that this is how Finch envisioned MIN offense before this season. A mix between five-out/DHO game and some pick-n-rolls. Or out in other words SAC/DEN offense + UTA offense under Snyder. But one thing is clearly lacking - elite shooting and decision making. We dont have Huerter type of shooter, we dont have Murray/Porter type of shooter who can activate DHO game at full speed. Also I kind of expected Towns to dominate in postups against smaller opponents, but he was not nearly effective as Jokic and Sabas in this regard

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

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Imagine Towns doing it

[Colbinii]

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In many ways I believe that this is how Finch envisioned MIN offense before this season. A mix between five-out/DHO game and some pick-n-rolls. Or out in other words SAC/DEN offense + UTA offense under Snyder. But one thing is clearly lacking - elite shooting and decision making. We dont have Huerter type of shooter, we dont have Murray/Porter type of shooter who can activate DHO game at full speed. Also I kind of expected Towns to dominate in postups against smaller opponents, but he was not nearly effective as Jokic and Sabas in this regard

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

You are wrong.

KCP and Brown were added this off-season, as is the rookie Braun.

Gordon was added during the 2021 season while Murray/Porter missed most/all of last year [they played in 25 games in 2021, none in 2022].

Jeff Green was added last year.

[urinesane]

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

You are wrong.

KCP and Brown were added this off-season, as is the rookie Braun.

Gordon was added during the 2021 season while Murray/Porter missed most/all of last year [they played in 25 games in 2021, none in 2022].

Jeff Green was added last year.

I meant the lack of BBIQ with the Wolves, specifically KAT. It's overblown and somewhat insulting.

[urinesane]

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

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Imagine Towns doing it

So because Towns isn't as smart as one of the smartest Centers ever he has a low BBIQ? It's the polarizing opinions that are always annoying about this, either someone is a genius or an idiot. Not because it's a reality, but because people can't have a nuanced discussion where things aren't a 1 or a 0.

[minimus]

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

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Imagine Towns doing it

So because Towns isn't as smart as one of the smartest Centers ever he has a low BBIQ? It's the polarizing opinions that are always annoying about this, either someone is a genius or an idiot. Not because it's a reality, but because people can't have a nuanced discussion where things aren't a 1 or a 0.

Well, I can give you some nuances.

1) offensive (hooking) fouls => he can't consistently punish smaller opponents in post

2) offensive fouls when he cant set screens without moving feet

3) weak/unnecessary fouls

4) some flashy sling passes when he can make simple pass

5) offensive fouls when he shoots threes and tries to earn a whistle

if Towns can stay within his limits it will be already a smart behavior. But he can't. This and MANY other things suggest that he doesn't have high BBIQ. Athletically, Jokic is not better defender than Towns, but Jokic is a lot smarter than Towns just because he has learned how to avoid dumb fouls/turnovers.

P.S. I don't know why but you tries to push everything to limit. For instance, I never said Towns an idiot. Moreover, I have been his biggest fan here. But we live in reality, not in a vacuum. I like Towns, but new CBA, lack of future at PG and Towns recent injury concern me. Despite all his limits Towns still can be worth his supermax if:

1) he can elevate others game, stretch the floor for Gobert, Edwards and MCD

2) can share PG duties like Sabonis, Jokic do

3) stay out of foul trouble, limit turnovers

4) rebound well

5) score efficiently

Sounds very doable.

[KJauger]

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

You are wrong.

KCP and Brown were added this off-season, as is the rookie Braun.

Gordon was added during the 2021 season while Murray/Porter missed most/all of last year [they played in 25 games in 2021, none in 2022].

Jeff Green was added last year.

I meant the lack of BBIQ with the Wolves, specifically KAT. It's overblown and somewhat insulting.

This aint it. It should be insulting to us as fans...the guy is going to be paid Supermax money, and has one of the lowest BBIQs in the NBA.

[Domejandro]

Well said. Ant needs to do more of what Murray does in those clips. Towns is supposed to be Porter. DLo is suppose to be Huerter. My opinion is that we don't have the basketball IQ to run it. Hopefully they watch more films and work out in France to get it right. Will still run the 5 outs / 4 outs too.

The BBIQ thing is overstated imo. Keep in mind that the bulk of the Denver roster has been playing together and under the same coach for several years. Give this roster some time and they'll be able to run the system Finch designs this offseason.

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Imagine Towns doing it

I'm going to be a hater for a second, that tweet is goofy. Players do this all of the time off of reading scouting reports. Some players are much better at it than others (Rajon Rondo was brilliant at it), but Nikola Jokić calling out an upcoming player isn't really something that warrants calling him a "genius" over. It's a great, observant play, but that tweet is insanely goofy.

[urinesane]

You are wrong.

KCP and Brown were added this off-season, as is the rookie Braun.

Gordon was added during the 2021 season while Murray/Porter missed most/all of last year [they played in 25 games in 2021, none in 2022].

Jeff Green was added last year.

I meant the lack of BBIQ with the Wolves, specifically KAT. It's overblown and somewhat insulting.

This aint it. It should be insulting to us as fans...the guy is going to be paid Supermax money, and has one of the lowest BBIQs in the NBA.

Troll elsewhere please.

[Krapinsky]

Imagine Towns doing it

Lol

[minimus]

It is all work in progress, but here is our new direction:

+ Anderson - two way player, high IQ, versatile defender
+ Minott - high potential as defender, comboforward, high energy, high effort player
+ Moore - 3&D prospect
+ Gobert - DPOY
+ Garza - high potential as five-out scoring big, high energy, high effort player
+ NAW - high energy, high effort player, 3&D
+ Conley- two way player, high IQ, high effort player
+ Miller - high potential as defender, comboforward
+ Jaylen Clark - some say he is the best PoA defender of 2023 draft

[KGdaBom]

It is all work in progress, but here is our new direction:

+ Anderson - two way player, high IQ, versatile defender
+ Minott - high potential as defender, comboforward, high energy, high effort player
+ Moore - 3&D prospect
+ Gobert - DPOY
+ Garza - high potential as five-out scoring big, high energy, high effort player
+ NAW - high energy, high effort player, 3&D
+ Conley- two way player, high IQ, high effort player
+ Miller - high potential as defender, comboforward
+ Jaylen Clark - some say he is the best PoA defender of 2023 draft

Why aren't KAT and Edwards in this?