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Post#281 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 7, 2023 10:04 pm

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DusterBuster wrote:Reading the tea leaves and it sure sounds like Portland is doing their prep work as though they expect to get Scoot.

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Especially if Miller does not workout in Portland

Scoot/Sharpe would be the core of the next generation Blazers, after Dame and a fine start in a rebuild.


Scoot and Shae are kind of my dream combo of guards. They would seemingly complement each other perfectly. It's annoying the Blazers have been totally incapable of putting a SG above 6'4" next to Dame for about a decade now, but if they start off a new era with a properly sized backcourt, that would be a ton of fun.

I still have to warn everyone tho, just because you have a good-looking start to a rebuild on paper, there's nothing guaranteed in this league.
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Post#282 » by Jsun947 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 1:55 am

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PDXKnight wrote:
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Isaac has been brought up a number of times as possibly ending up in Portland. It's an unavoidable situation if he does end up in Portland... not sure how it's OT.


I suppose I mean where this convo is headed seems ot


I don't see how, it's not meant to be a sidetrack of a conversation, just a point to consider. I think the same uncomfortable conversation would happen if Miller comes to Portland. Just like it did when Billups got hired. Just like it did when they almost hired Jason Kidd. Just like it would if they brought Kanter back. Idgaf about your politics, but you can't ignore it would be a topic, especially since that's more than half of what Isaac does since he barely plays basketball due to his injuries.


Miller - Possible accessory to murder
Kidd - Drunk who beat his wife
Billups - Accused of gang rape
Kanter - Muslim and doesn’t like dictatorships?
Isaac - Christian and didn’t want to be forced to take a vaccine that didn’t keep you from getting the disease, spreading the disease, and had virtually no effect on hospitalization rates for young healthy people.

Two of these are not like the others… Obviously you have an axe to grind with Isaac based on how you characterize him so spare me the BS.
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Post#283 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 8, 2023 2:00 am

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DusterBuster wrote:
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I suppose I mean where this convo is headed seems ot


I don't see how, it's not meant to be a sidetrack of a conversation, just a point to consider. I think the same uncomfortable conversation would happen if Miller comes to Portland. Just like it did when Billups got hired. Just like it did when they almost hired Jason Kidd. Just like it would if they brought Kanter back. Idgaf about your politics, but you can't ignore it would be a topic, especially since that's more than half of what Isaac does since he barely plays basketball due to his injuries.


Miller - Possible accessory to murder
Kidd - Drunk who beat his wife
Billups - Accused of gang rape
Kanter - Muslim and doesn’t like dictatorships?
Isaac - Christian and didn’t want to be forced to take a vaccine that didn’t keep you from getting the disease, spreading the disease, and had virtually no effect on hospitalization rates for young healthy people.

Two of these are not like the others… Obviously you have an axe to grind with Isaac based on how you characterize him so spare me the BS.


Lol, or I’m trying to point out how Portland is an aggressively liberal city and him being pro-right wing anti vaxx would play awful in this city… literally all I did was give his position, not inject my opinion one way or another… but sure, whatever dude.

I just don’t want him here because he’s the most injury prone Johnathan since Johnathan Bender. He’d be dead weight of a contract AND be fodder for local media, especially if the team is crap and there’s nothing else to talk about.

If anyone’s beliefs are getting wrapped up in this, it’s probably yours considering your defense of him lol.
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Post#284 » by The Sebastian Express » Thu Jun 8, 2023 2:24 am

It was a talking point for Andrew Wiggins and Kyrie for months. It's a perfectly valid talking point for Isaac, exacerbated by the fact that he rarely plays.

Duster didn't comment on him on a person, he commented on his stance and what that plays into. Everyone else is keeping it part of the conversation, making it larger even, not Duster.
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Post#285 » by Jsun947 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 6:15 am

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Jsun947 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
I don't see how, it's not meant to be a sidetrack of a conversation, just a point to consider. I think the same uncomfortable conversation would happen if Miller comes to Portland. Just like it did when Billups got hired. Just like it did when they almost hired Jason Kidd. Just like it would if they brought Kanter back. Idgaf about your politics, but you can't ignore it would be a topic, especially since that's more than half of what Isaac does since he barely plays basketball due to his injuries.


Miller - Possible accessory to murder
Kidd - Drunk who beat his wife
Billups - Accused of gang rape
Kanter - Muslim and doesn’t like dictatorships?
Isaac - Christian and didn’t want to be forced to take a vaccine that didn’t keep you from getting the disease, spreading the disease, and had virtually no effect on hospitalization rates for young healthy people.

Two of these are not like the others… Obviously you have an axe to grind with Isaac based on how you characterize him so spare me the BS.


Lol, or I’m trying to point out how Portland is an aggressively liberal city and him being pro-right wing anti vaxx would play awful in this city… literally all I did was give his position, not inject my opinion one way or another… but sure, whatever dude.

I just don’t want him here because he’s the most injury prone Johnathan since Johnathan Bender. He’d be dead weight of a contract AND be fodder for local media, especially if the team is crap and there’s nothing else to talk about.

If anyone’s beliefs are getting wrapped up in this, it’s probably yours considering your defense of him lol.



Practically every major city & media company in the country is left wing. The concept that an nba player simply being right wing would be a distraction or issue for the team is simply **** stupid.

Also he’s not anti-vax so you’re not even correctly giving his position.
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Post#286 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 6:30 am

DusterBuster wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:Reading the tea leaves and it sure sounds like Portland is doing their prep work as though they expect to get Scoot.

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Especially if Miller does not workout in Portland

Scoot/Sharpe would be the core of the next generation Blazers, after Dame and a fine start in a rebuild.


Scoot and Shae are kind of my dream combo of guards. They would seemingly complement each other perfectly. It's annoying the Blazers have been totally incapable of putting a SG above 6'4" next to Dame for about a decade now, but if they start off a new era with a properly sized backcourt, that would be a ton of fun.

I still have to warn everyone tho, just because you have a good-looking start to a rebuild on paper, there's nothing guaranteed in this league.


Indeed its just a start in the rebuild but a good start for that BC could be together for the rest of the decade.

I really think Ant fits in with them for he's going to be 24 for all of the 2024 season and offers the catch and
shoot element to compliment Scoot/Sharpe.

What they do up front is a big question for the team needs what Nurk was prior to his injury. That guy is not
in this draft
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Post#287 » by Butter » Thu Jun 8, 2023 10:43 am

Norm2953 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
Especially if Miller does not workout in Portland

Scoot/Sharpe would be the core of the next generation Blazers, after Dame and a fine start in a rebuild.


Scoot and Shae are kind of my dream combo of guards. They would seemingly complement each other perfectly. It's annoying the Blazers have been totally incapable of putting a SG above 6'4" next to Dame for about a decade now, but if they start off a new era with a properly sized backcourt, that would be a ton of fun.

I still have to warn everyone tho, just because you have a good-looking start to a rebuild on paper, there's nothing guaranteed in this league.


Indeed its just a start in the rebuild but a good start for that BC could be together for the rest of the decade.

I really think Ant fits in with them for he's going to be 24 for all of the 2024 season and offers the catch and
shoot element to compliment Scoot/Sharpe.

What they do up front is a big question for the team needs what Nurk was prior to his injury. That guy is not
in this draft



If the Blazers trade Dame, I'd like to see Nurk as part of the deal that returns a center upgrade.

Miami sends Bam
New Jersey sends Claxton

Sending Nurk hopefully upgrades the Blazers 5, BUT, it also helps to mitigate Dames concen that the team he goes to does not get gutted if they send out their starting center.
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Post#288 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jun 8, 2023 1:08 pm

Butter wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Scoot and Shae are kind of my dream combo of guards. They would seemingly complement each other perfectly. It's annoying the Blazers have been totally incapable of putting a SG above 6'4" next to Dame for about a decade now, but if they start off a new era with a properly sized backcourt, that would be a ton of fun.

I still have to warn everyone tho, just because you have a good-looking start to a rebuild on paper, there's nothing guaranteed in this league.


Indeed its just a start in the rebuild but a good start for that BC could be together for the rest of the decade.

I really think Ant fits in with them for he's going to be 24 for all of the 2024 season and offers the catch and
shoot element to compliment Scoot/Sharpe.

What they do up front is a big question for the team needs what Nurk was prior to his injury. That guy is not
in this draft



If the Blazers trade Dame, I'd like to see Nurk as part of the deal that returns a center upgrade.

Miami sends Bam
New Jersey sends Claxton

Sending Nurk hopefully upgrades the Blazers 5, BUT, it also helps to mitigate Dames concen that the team he goes to does not get gutted if they send out their starting center.


A young c would be nice not to mention getting out from nurks contract but i suppose portland would waste money anyway
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Post#289 » by ebott » Thu Jun 8, 2023 2:30 pm

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If the Blazers trade Dame, I'd like to see Nurk as part of the deal that returns a center upgrade.

Miami sends Bam
New Jersey sends Claxton

Sending Nurk hopefully upgrades the Blazers 5, BUT, it also helps to mitigate Dames concen that the team he goes to does not get gutted if they send out their starting center.


If we trade Dame, it doesn't matter who our center is. We'd be in a full rebuild and we'd be tanking for several more seasons. The hope would be that we'd be able to draft our center (and small forward and power forward) in the years to come.
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Post#290 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:23 pm

Butter wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Scoot and Shae are kind of my dream combo of guards. They would seemingly complement each other perfectly. It's annoying the Blazers have been totally incapable of putting a SG above 6'4" next to Dame for about a decade now, but if they start off a new era with a properly sized backcourt, that would be a ton of fun.

I still have to warn everyone tho, just because you have a good-looking start to a rebuild on paper, there's nothing guaranteed in this league.


Indeed its just a start in the rebuild but a good start for that BC could be together for the rest of the decade.

I really think Ant fits in with them for he's going to be 24 for all of the 2024 season and offers the catch and
shoot element to compliment Scoot/Sharpe.

What they do up front is a big question for the team needs what Nurk was prior to his injury. That guy is not
in this draft



If the Blazers trade Dame, I'd like to see Nurk as part of the deal that returns a center upgrade.

Miami sends Bam
New Jersey sends Claxton

Sending Nurk hopefully upgrades the Blazers 5, BUT, it also helps to mitigate Dames concen that the team he goes to does not get gutted if they send out their starting center.


If Dame is going to Miami, they aren't sending Bam. Dame and Bam are tight and would largely defeat the purpose of trading for Dame for Miami.
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Post#291 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:32 pm

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While not a "rumor", an interesting thought. PG is one I'm on the fence with for the #3 pick.

Many (accurately) should point to his Games Played over the last 4 years, but I also wonder how much of his low GP is due to the Clippers organization and how they handle their veteran players. The Clippers are one of the worst 'load management' offenders. Ballmer is clearly trying to play "the regular season doesn't matter" game with the team and letting his stars sit every game for anything and everything, and I think it's not been a successful experiment. Bubble season aside, his career before the Clippers, he was averaging 70-80 games a year. It was only with the Clippers that he started dipping to the 40s and 50s. I wonder if on a team with a different ethos about playing through minor injuries, he would jump back up to the 70s for games played per season?

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Post#292 » by JKiddy » Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:46 pm

I think this isn't a horrible deal. But, I don't think POR has enough to land a star. This is the unfortunate situation here.

Maybe if you add in both picks this year and take away the #30 pick the Clippers would consider it?
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Post#293 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:49 pm

JKiddy wrote:I think this isn't a horrible deal. But, I don't think POR has enough to land a star. This is the unfortunate situation here.

Maybe if you add in both picks this year and take away the #30 pick the Clippers would consider it?


:roll: :roll: :roll:

Whatever. Ignoring you clear bias that Portland just can't make any move and has to trade Dame to Brooklyn for some trash found outside of Barklays... even if you are right, that's fine... Portland can draft a star in this draft and give up nothing in the process and they can hold onto Dame until they get a fair offer for him since they have him under contract and he's a pro that won't pull a Ben Simmons and sit out.
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Post#294 » by JKiddy » Thu Jun 8, 2023 3:53 pm

I do not think Dame is 100% going to the Nets. I think they are talking. But, Miami is going to make an offer as well.

Plus, if you can steal a superstar away from this situation before the draft and then I think he might stay!
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Post#295 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 4:21 pm

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While not a "rumor", an interesting thought. PG is one I'm on the fence with for the #3 pick.

Many (accurately) should point to his Games Played over the last 4 years, but I also wonder how much of his low GP is due to the Clippers organization and how they handle their veteran players. The Clippers are one of the worst 'load management' offenders. Ballmer is clearly trying to play "the regular season doesn't matter" game with the team and letting his stars sit every game for anything and everything, and I think it's not been a successful experiment. Bubble season aside, his career before the Clippers, he was averaging 70-80 games a year. It was only with the Clippers that he started dipping to the 40s and 50s. I wonder if on a team with a different ethos about playing through minor injuries, he would jump back up to the 70s for games played per season?

Simons
Nurkic
Little
#3

for

George
Zubac
#30

Dame
Sharpe
George
Grant
Zubac


Much like these don't trade for Dame trades, Portland is not going to trade a prime trade asset for a
33 year old PG.
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Post#296 » by Butter » Thu Jun 8, 2023 4:52 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
Butter wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
Indeed its just a start in the rebuild but a good start for that BC could be together for the rest of the decade.

I really think Ant fits in with them for he's going to be 24 for all of the 2024 season and offers the catch and
shoot element to compliment Scoot/Sharpe.

What they do up front is a big question for the team needs what Nurk was prior to his injury. That guy is not
in this draft



If the Blazers trade Dame, I'd like to see Nurk as part of the deal that returns a center upgrade.

Miami sends Bam
New Jersey sends Claxton

Sending Nurk hopefully upgrades the Blazers 5, BUT, it also helps to mitigate Dames concen that the team he goes to does not get gutted if they send out their starting center.


If Dame is going to Miami, they aren't sending Bam. Dame and Bam are tight and would largely defeat the purpose of trading for Dame for Miami.


I'm sure you are right, but I don't see any other package that interests me from Miami. They don't have a treasure trove of picks. What do the Blazers receive?

From Miami's perspective, is the step down from Bam to Nurk bigger than the upgrade to Dame?
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Post#297 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 8, 2023 4:59 pm

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If the Blazers trade Dame, I'd like to see Nurk as part of the deal that returns a center upgrade.

Miami sends Bam
New Jersey sends Claxton

Sending Nurk hopefully upgrades the Blazers 5, BUT, it also helps to mitigate Dames concen that the team he goes to does not get gutted if they send out their starting center.


If Dame is going to Miami, they aren't sending Bam. Dame and Bam are tight and would largely defeat the purpose of trading for Dame for Miami.


I'm sure you are right, but I don't see any other package that interests me from Miami. They don't have a treasure trove of picks. What do the Blazers receive?

From Miami's perspective, is the step down from Bam to Nurk bigger than the upgrade to Dame?


Yes it is. Nurk is not on Bam's level, but the upgrade from ... literally I have no idea who to Dame is MAASSSIIIVVVEEE. Right now it's Gabe Vincent. So think about the difference in talent from Bam 20/9 to Nurkic 15/7, to Dame 32/7 vs Vincent 9/2. lol

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Post#298 » by m0ng0 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 5:01 pm

Butter wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Butter wrote:

If the Blazers trade Dame, I'd like to see Nurk as part of the deal that returns a center upgrade.

Miami sends Bam
New Jersey sends Claxton

Sending Nurk hopefully upgrades the Blazers 5, BUT, it also helps to mitigate Dames concen that the team he goes to does not get gutted if they send out their starting center.


If Dame is going to Miami, they aren't sending Bam. Dame and Bam are tight and would largely defeat the purpose of trading for Dame for Miami.


I'm sure you are right, but I don't see any other package that interests me from Miami. They don't have a treasure trove of picks. What do the Blazers receive?

From Miami's perspective, is the step down from Bam to Nurk bigger than the upgrade to Dame?


The chemistry between Dame and Nurk could artificially boost Nurks value?
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Post#300 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:01 pm

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