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John Hollinger: Top 25 Free Agents According to BORD$ 

Post#1 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 8, 2023 6:47 pm

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TIER I: The All-Stars
1. Kyrie Irving, PG, 31, Dallas: $50,555,884
There is a lot more that goes into having Irving on your team than BORD$ is able to process, which is why sentient beings may put a lower value on Irving than my computer formula does. Between injuries, insolence and inoculations (or lack thereof), Irving hasn’t played more than 60 games in a season in four years; he’s only had three seasons in his 12 as a pro that would make him award-eligible (more than 65 games). (Odd fact: When Irving did play, he led the league in minutes per game.)

On the other hand, he’s also an offensive whirlwind who averaged 27 points a game on 63.4 percent true shooting in 20 games as a Maverick last season. Irving’s BORD$ pegs him being worth more than his $46.5 million max for the coming season, but the two more pressing questions are whether the collateral locker room damage is worth it, and whether he can continue to stay this productive on a deal that pushes into his mid-30s.

Given how many teams lack either the cap space to sign Irving or the willingness to put up with him, Dallas may be able to push back and offer him something short of his four-year, $210 million max (let alone the five-year version for $272 million).

2. James Harden, SG, 33, Philadelphia (player option): $47,075,783
According to our Shams Charania, Harden is torn between returning to Philadelphia and gunning for a championship or returning to Houston and going 33-49. Either way, he’ll be opting out of his deal for 2023-24 and $35.6 million, a relative bargain he accepted to allow the Sixers to sign P.J. Tucker and still stay below the tax apron.

The thing that makes the two possibilities financially more even is the league’s “over-38” rule, which prevents a player of Harden’s age from signing a five-year deal for the full max. Normally that guaranteed fifth year would be the kicker that would allow Philadelphia to win any bidding war, but instead, the advantage may be with Houston: the Sixers can offer more on a four-year deal ($210 million to $201 million), but because Texas has no state income tax, the overall money is basically even.

3. Fred VanVleet, PG, 29, Toronto (player option): $46,873,792
I sometimes wonder why there is such intense focus on Irving and the Lakers when VanVleet is nearly as good and vastly more reliable. This BORD$ valuation is slightly bloated by Nick Nurse’s insistence on playing his starters 47.9 minutes per game, resulting in VanVleet’s minutes estimate being unrealistically high for what he’s likely to face next season — whether under a new coach in Toronto or as a free agent.

The other twist here is that VanVleet only has seven years of experience, which means his max is “just” $40.2 million — a relative bargain, at least in the first year of a multi-year deal. A good deal structure for him would be three years with a fourth-year player option, which lets him cash in on a 10-year veteran max for 35 percent of the cap if he’s still playing at a high level in 2026.

VanVleet certainly will opt out of his final year at $22.8 million and has no incentive to sign an extension yet because even the revised extension rules in the new CBA won’t net him nearly enough.

4. Kristaps Porziņģis, C, 27, Washington (player option): $39,132,351
Porziņģis can opt in for $36 million for the coming season; he can also opt in to that year and use it as a platform for a four-year extension that totals $209 million over the next half decade. Going out that far for a player who has struggled with injuries to his lower extremities feels like an unnecessary risk for a franchise that isn’t going anywhere important in the next two seasons, although that has never stopped the Wizards before.

While Porziņģis will only be 28 on opening day and played at a near-All-Star level this season, the declining value of bigs and trepidation over his health is likely to put a damper on his market.

If Washington wants to run it back, the Wizards have about $60 million in wiggle room to re-sign Porziņģis and Kyle Kuzma and sign a free-agent point guard with their non-taxpayer midlevel exception.
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Post#2 » by Basketball_Jones » Thu Jun 8, 2023 6:49 pm

Van Vleet nearly as good as Irving hmmmm
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Post#3 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 8, 2023 6:49 pm

TIER II: High-end role players
5. Miles Bridges, PF, 25, Charlotte (restricted): $29,689,570
Bridges had a valuation of $30.5 million when I did this exercise last year; that valuation changed to $33.6 million this time around because the cap is projected to go up by just over 10 percent.

Of course, any discussion of Bridges has to go well beyond a statistical projection. He sat out the season after an offseason domestic violence incident involving the mother of his children. He pleaded no contest to a felony domestic violence charge in November and faces three years of probation but no jail time as part of a deal with prosecutors. He will begin the 2023-24 season by serving an additional 10-game suspension (20 games of his suspension are already considered served).

With Bridges guaranteed to be unavailable for a chunk of the schedule, I prorated his valuation for the coming season downward by an equivalent amount, which is how I landed at $29.69 million. One can argue he should be paid more than that because, in any future contract years, he won’t have the suspension hanging over him; one can also probably more forcefully argue he should be paid less given the cause of his suspension.

Bridges is still technically a restricted free agent, meaning Charlotte could match an offer sheet from another team. That likely would further mute any market for Bridges, who otherwise would be a popular free agent as a productive, athletic, 25-year-old combo forward.

Finally, note that only about 96.5 percent percent of Bridges’ salary in 2023-24 will count against his team’s luxury-tax calculation because of the suspension. If he were paid $20 million, for example, only $19.3 million of it would count, because half the amount he loses to suspension (1/145th of his salary for each of the 10 games) would be deducted from the tax calculation.

6. Josh Hart, SG, 28, New York (player option): $28,607,658
Hart was outstanding after his trade to New York and had a really good stretch in the second half of 2021-22 in the brief window between his trade to Portland and the Blazers pivoting to abject tanking.

Nonetheless, even the most homerific Knicks fan would probably admit that $28.6 million feels like a lofty valuation for Hart. His career shooting (35.0 percent from 3 on low volume), age (28) and size (6-foot-5 if you pull on his toes) all weigh against paying him as a top-dozen shooting guard like this valuation implies.

That said, New York won big by bringing him in from Portland for the cost of a late first. Hart surely will opt out of his below-market contract, but one presumes he’ll be back in New York on a multi-year deal that pays him like a plus wing starter (in the $20 million range) for the next three or four years.

7. D’Angelo Russell, PG, 27, L.A. Lakers: $26,867,883
This high a valuation for Russell may surprise some people, but despite Russell’s shortcomings as a defender and penetrator, few can match his skill level from middle distance and the 3-point line. Russell shot insanely well this season, with his 54.8 percent mark on 2s being notable for a guard who rarely gets to the rim and his 39.6 percent from 3 a career best. Russell was awful in the Western Conference finals, but he was able to stay on the floor in the first two rounds against Ja Morant and Steph Curry because of his shot making.

Overall he was 41st in offensive BPM this season; most of the guys in the top 40 are on max or near-max deals, and at 27, Russell is entering his prime. I get it if you’re a bit underwhelmed by the idea of Russell in a high-stakes postseason game, but the Lakers could do a lot worse than bringing him back. I should note that his contract also offers sign-and-trade possibilities if the Lakers go looking for upgrades.




10. Jakob Poeltl, C, 27, Toronto: $25,260,040
The midseason trade to the Raptors means that Poeltl is now literally a dinosaur center. The issue for him in free agency is how much is such a player really worth in today’s NBA? Even an elite version of that player, such as Poeltl, has limitations. Offensively, he can pass, screen and shoot floaters but has no 3-point range and has to be taken off the floor in hack-a-Jak situations; defensively, he is an awesome rim protector who rebounds but doesn’t fare as well in switching schemes.

That skill set has been devaluated in the modern NBA, but Poeltl is one of the best versions of that archetype. Additionally, the Raptors seem pot-committed after giving up a lightly protected first (top-six through 2026) to add Poeltl to an average roster still in flux. This BORD$ value may be slightly overenthusiastic, but I’m willing to bet the first digit on Poeltl’s 2023-24 salary is a 2.
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Post#4 » by JShuttlesworth » Thu Jun 8, 2023 6:51 pm

I think Harden will quickly sign with Houston

It gets really interesting with Irving / VanVleet / Paul all on the market

Irving is the most interesting, because I don't think most teams with cap space are eager to add him, and I don't think Cuban is going to do a S&T to send Kyrie where he wants
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Post#5 » by ontnut » Thu Jun 8, 2023 6:52 pm

I sometimes wonder why there is such intense focus on Irving and the Lakers when VanVleet is nearly as good and vastly more reliable.

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Post#6 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:00 pm

13. Gary Trent, Jr. SG, 24, Toronto (player option): $21,983,792
Trent has a player option for $18.6 million, and it’s possible he decides to opt in and try again in free agency next year. The tea leaves, however, seem pointed more strongly toward his opting out and, most likely, moving on from a Toronto team that doesn’t seem to have the financial wherewithal to keep all three of Fred VanVleet, Jakob Poeltl and Trent.

Trent can shoot and is still young, which should produce a frothy market given that rebuilding, shooting-starved teams such as Houston, San Antonio, Orlando and Detroit are the ones with cap space this summer. The key for those clubs will be to avoid repeating Toronto’s error; the Raptors inked Trent to a three-year extension with a player option in 2021, setting the stage for him to bail after two years at age 24. Look for his next club to sign him to a four-year deal that lets them ride the rising salary cap while Trent moves into what should be his prime years.
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Post#7 » by sidsid » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:04 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://theathletic.com/4590137/2023/06/08/nba-top-free-agents-kyrie-irving-james-harden/?sources%3A98=EMP-shared-article

TIER I: The All-Stars
1. Kyrie Irving, PG, 31, Dallas: $50,555,884
There is a lot more that goes into having Irving on your team than BORD$ is able to process, which is why sentient beings may put a lower value on Irving than my computer formula does. Between injuries, insolence and inoculations (or lack thereof), Irving hasn’t played more than 60 games in a season in four years; he’s only had three seasons in his 12 as a pro that would make him award-eligible (more than 65 games). (Odd fact: When Irving did play, he led the league in minutes per game.)

On the other hand, he’s also an offensive whirlwind who averaged 27 points a game on 63.4 percent true shooting in 20 games as a Maverick last season. Irving’s BORD$ pegs him being worth more than his $46.5 million max for the coming season, but the two more pressing questions are whether the collateral locker room damage is worth it, and whether he can continue to stay this productive on a deal that pushes into his mid-30s.

Given how many teams lack either the cap space to sign Irving or the willingness to put up with him, Dallas may be able to push back and offer him something short of his four-year, $210 million max (let alone the five-year version for $272 million).

2. James Harden, SG, 33, Philadelphia (player option): $47,075,783
According to our Shams Charania, Harden is torn between returning to Philadelphia and gunning for a championship or returning to Houston and going 33-49. Either way, he’ll be opting out of his deal for 2023-24 and $35.6 million, a relative bargain he accepted to allow the Sixers to sign P.J. Tucker and still stay below the tax apron.

The thing that makes the two possibilities financially more even is the league’s “over-38” rule, which prevents a player of Harden’s age from signing a five-year deal for the full max. Normally that guaranteed fifth year would be the kicker that would allow Philadelphia to win any bidding war, but instead, the advantage may be with Houston: the Sixers can offer more on a four-year deal ($210 million to $201 million), but because Texas has no state income tax, the overall money is basically even.

3. Fred VanVleet, PG, 29, Toronto (player option): $46,873,792
I sometimes wonder why there is such intense focus on Irving and the Lakers when VanVleet is nearly as good and vastly more reliable. This BORD$ valuation is slightly bloated by Nick Nurse’s insistence on playing his starters 47.9 minutes per game, resulting in VanVleet’s minutes estimate being unrealistically high for what he’s likely to face next season — whether under a new coach in Toronto or as a free agent.

The other twist here is that VanVleet only has seven years of experience, which means his max is “just” $40.2 million — a relative bargain, at least in the first year of a multi-year deal. A good deal structure for him would be three years with a fourth-year player option, which lets him cash in on a 10-year veteran max for 35 percent of the cap if he’s still playing at a high level in 2026.

VanVleet certainly will opt out of his final year at $22.8 million and has no incentive to sign an extension yet because even the revised extension rules in the new CBA won’t net him nearly enough.

4. Kristaps Porziņģis, C, 27, Washington (player option): $39,132,351
Porziņģis can opt in for $36 million for the coming season; he can also opt in to that year and use it as a platform for a four-year extension that totals $209 million over the next half decade. Going out that far for a player who has struggled with injuries to his lower extremities feels like an unnecessary risk for a franchise that isn’t going anywhere important in the next two seasons, although that has never stopped the Wizards before.

While Porziņģis will only be 28 on opening day and played at a near-All-Star level this season, the declining value of bigs and trepidation over his health is likely to put a damper on his market.

If Washington wants to run it back, the Wizards have about $60 million in wiggle room to re-sign Porziņģis and Kyle Kuzma and sign a free-agent point guard with their non-taxpayer midlevel exception.


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The playoffs showing what matters is always a good indication of where you should put your money.

And a low ceiling, high floor, undersized combo guard who racks up numbers in a role that doesn't suit him in the regular season to then become strictly a 3pt shooter who gets hunted in the playoffs isn't where you want to be.

The amount of bloated contract money that's gone to chuckers over the years (Herro, Robinson, Poole, etc.) who struggle to stay on the floor is the trap that a good team needs to avoid. EDIT: forgot MPJ playing right now! Who is also making way too much money for what he can contribute.

The Celtics were cycling 3 FVVs to varying effect during the playoffs and you shouldn't be paying any of them more than 20 million per.

Money should go to where the playoff impact is.
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Post#8 » by douggood » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:06 pm

10. Jakob Poeltl, C, 27, Toronto: $25,260,040
The midseason trade to the Raptors means that Poeltl is now literally a dinosaur center. The issue for him in free agency is how much is such a player really worth in today’s NBA? Even an elite version of that player, such as Poeltl, has limitations. Offensively, he can pass, screen and shoot floaters but has no 3-point range and has to be taken off the floor in hack-a-Jak situations; defensively, he is an awesome rim protector who rebounds but doesn’t fare as well in switching schemes.

That skill set has been devaluated in the modern NBA, but Poeltl is one of the best versions of that archetype. Additionally, the Raptors seem pot-committed after giving up a lightly protected first (top-six through 2026) to add Poeltl to an average roster still in flux. This BORD$ value may be slightly overenthusiastic, but I’m willing to bet the first digit on Poeltl’s 2023-24 salary is a 2.
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Post#9 » by douggood » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:06 pm

13. Gary Trent, Jr. SG, 24, Toronto (player option): $21,983,792
Trent has a player option for $18.6 million, and it’s possible he decides to opt in and try again in free agency next year. The tea leaves, however, seem pointed more strongly toward his opting out and, most likely, moving on from a Toronto team that doesn’t seem to have the financial wherewithal to keep all three of Fred VanVleet, Jakob Poeltl and Trent.

Trent can shoot and is still young, which should produce a frothy market given that rebuilding, shooting-starved teams such as Houston, San Antonio, Orlando and Detroit are the ones with cap space this summer. The key for those clubs will be to avoid repeating Toronto’s error; the Raptors inked Trent to a three-year extension with a player option in 2021, setting the stage for him to bail after two years at age 24. Look for his next club to sign him to a four-year deal that lets them ride the rising salary cap while Trent moves into what should be his prime years.
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Post#10 » by TheGeneral99 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:10 pm

Pretty weak free agency class overall:

Kyrie is a cancer who brings in a ton of baggage and is now 31 years old. I wouldn't get near him.

James Harden will be 34 in August, has regressed a little bit, and has had some injury issues lately. I'm not sure it would be smart to give him the 4 years 200m that he probably wants. He'd be a great signing for a reasonable short-term contract.

Fred is a very solid piece, but is he worth over 30m a year? Probably not.

Porzingis is injury prone.

After that it's nothing special.
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Post#11 » by sidsid » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:14 pm

douggood wrote:10. Jakob Poeltl, C, 27, Toronto: $25,260,040
The midseason trade to the Raptors means that Poeltl is now literally a dinosaur center. The issue for him in free agency is how much is such a player really worth in today’s NBA? Even an elite version of that player, such as Poeltl, has limitations. Offensively, he can pass, screen and shoot floaters but has no 3-point range and has to be taken off the floor in hack-a-Jak situations; defensively, he is an awesome rim protector who rebounds but doesn’t fare as well in switching schemes.

That skill set has been devaluated in the modern NBA, but Poeltl is one of the best versions of that archetype. Additionally, the Raptors seem pot-committed after giving up a lightly protected first (top-six through 2026) to add Poeltl to an average roster still in flux. This BORD$ value may be slightly overenthusiastic, but I’m willing to bet the first digit on Poeltl’s 2023-24 salary is a 2.


The irony here is that he's worth as much or more than Fred (which shouldn't exceed 20 mil) in the playoffs. He has limitations, but he fills a gap that has very few candidates to be filled. Every team could use a Jak, just ask Miami about the Zeller minutes, it's just that his minutes could fluctuate wildly.

A lack of supply drives his value.
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Post#12 » by Los_29 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:23 pm

Everybody appreciates what Fred brings except for a few fans on this forum. With that said, this is a bit too generous towards Fred.
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Post#13 » by JJ From Deep » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:26 pm

For those us that don't have the athletic, can somebody list the full list of 25 players?
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Post#14 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:31 pm

TIER III: Good players who could maybe do more
14. Tre Jones, PG, 23, San Antonio (restricted): $20,909,844
This valuation is perhaps a bit surprising. Jones is young and low-key had a solid year for an overmatched San Antonio squad, but the question still lingers about whether he can be more than a low-mistake setup guy. Jones has a solid floater game and a ridiculous assist-turnover ratio, but he’s only 6-1 and shoots 27.1 percent career from 3. He probably projects better as a high-level backup than as a long-term starter, which would justify a salary in the $50 million range over three years but not as high as this BORD$ valuation wants to go.

Jones is a restricted free agent on a rebuilding Spurs team with $35 million in projected cap space, so rival teams are unlikely to view him as a gettable target unless they go crazy on an offer sheet. This could mute his market a bit, but the other angle for San Antonio is that it could sign him to a declining money contract. The Spurs don’t really need the extra cap room right now, so they can afford to start him at a high number, but signing for three or four years with 8 percent salary declines could provide great value in the out years.

For example, a four-year, $70 million deal that starts him at $20 million in 2023-24 might seem expensive, but in his age-27 season in 2026-27, the Spurs would pay him just $15 million when the cap could very well be up to $178 million (if the 10 percent annual limits in the next CBA are hit).

15. Jordan Clarkson, SG, 31, Utah (player option): $19,712,238
Clarkson has a player option for $14.2 million that he is likely to decline and hit unrestricted free agency … that is, unless the Jazz decide to get funky.

Because Utah is so far below the salary cap for the coming season, one option for the Jazz would be to have Clarkson opt in and then immediately renegotiate and extend his deal to put a large cap number on the books for 2023-24 and much smaller ones in the extension years. At Clarkson’s age, a two-year extension probably makes more sense than three years, but they could get the number low enough that even three would be a huge positive (not to mention highly tradeable).

For instance, let’s say the Jazz and Clarkson determine he’s worth $65 million over the next four years. The standard way to do this might be to sign a contract that starts at roughly $15 million and contains 8 percent raises.

The more creative way to do this, however, would be for Clarkson to opt in then wait until the third anniversary of his contact signing, which because of the COVID-19 year isn’t until Nov. 23. He would then be renegotiate-and-extend eligible.

At that point, the Jazz would use $10 million of their cap room to boost his 2023-24 salary to $24.2 million. It would be tough to use much more than this; the Jazz need to at least spend up to the salary floor by opening day or face additional penalties in the new CBA, so the maximum amount they would want to stay under for the purposes of this contract is $13.4 million.

By rule, his salary for 2024-25 is allowed to drop by a maximum of 40 percent, to $14.5 million. Then they would decrease it by the maximum allowable 8 percent the next two seasons, to $13.4 million in 2025-26 and $12.2 million in 2026-27. Over the four years, Clarkson would make his $65 million, but Utah would have front-loaded the money to minimize the impact on its cap.

Or, Clarkson could just opt out and sign someplace else.

16. P.J. Washington, PF, 24, Charlotte (restricted): $19,054,564
Washington is a tricky player to evaluate, a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none type. He’s theoretically a stretch big but isn’t quite so devastating from the perimeter that it induces panic (36.6 percent career on moderate volume); he’s theoretically able to offer value as a small-ball five but has struggled to defend at any position; and he’s theoretically a power player but had a worse rebound rate than Kelly Oubre this season.

But Washington showed strides at both ends last season, especially late when a left-for-dead Charlotte team nonetheless strung together several victories. His feet still betray him sometimes in space, but his defense definitely got better; offensively, he was much more assertive about looking to score inside the arc and did it without losing efficiency.

At 24, he may be on the verge of breaking out into more of a fully fledged starting four, and his timing is impeccable heading into restricted free agency. With cap space teams like Indiana, Oklahoma City and, perhaps, Sacramento, needing young help at the position, he may become a popular guy in early July.

Scaring off Charlotte with an offer sheet could be difficult, however, as the Hornets should have enough room below the tax line to absorb re-signing Bridges, Washington and Oubre at market salaries if they wish.

17. Coby White, SG, 23, Chicago (restricted): $18,678,821
If you didn’t watch the Bulls a lot this year, I can hardly blame you. But I can tell you White got significantly better over the course of the year and, at 23, has a pretty strong case to be paid as a top third guard. His restricted free agent status will likely chill his market a bit, especially since the Bulls are trying to win this year (a separate line of inquiry worthy of its own column) and can match any offer sheet.

Paying White as a third guard has more utility for the Bulls than some other teams as well, given that Alex Caruso is constantly injured and Zach LaVine has battled knee issues. I’d be surprised if White’s deal reaches this BORD$ value, but a multi-year deal above the midlevel exception feels like the sweet spot — say, three years between $45 million and $50 million.

18. Jerami Grant, PF, 29, Portland: $18,560,550
The Blazers seem pot-committed to keeping this group around Damian Lillard together and trying to push the boulder up the hill one more time, but at what cost? Grant is eligible for a four-year, $112 million extension between now and July 1, but even that would seemingly overvalue him based on his age and recent production. Paying him more seems absolutely batty, plus it yanks Portland ever closer to the tax line.

Yet the Blazers also must fret about potential interlopers in the Grant bidding — a return to Detroit, for instance, or the Pacers using their heap of cap space to fill a yawning gap at the four. It certainly seems that whatever deal Grant gets ends up exceeding this BORD$ value, but a nine-figure deal that pays him until he’s 33 still feels like a reach.


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19. Bruce Brown, SF, 26, Denver (player option): $17,764,642
Brown was one of the best 2022 free-agent signings in the league, if not the best, helping the Nuggets to the NBA Finals on a bargain $6.5 million contract. (Although some people had him rated as the top free-agent small forward last summer.)

He’ll likely opt out of the second year of that deal and get paid this summer, with virtually every team with midlevel exception money or more circling him as a possibility. The Nuggets will have no Bird rights on Brown, so the only possibility of his staying is to sign a one-year deal for $7.7 million and then re-sign in Denver as an early Bird rights free agent a year from now for a likely $13.6 million. Even those numbers, however, seem to badly undervalue Brown, so it’s more likely he flies the coop.

20. Dillon Brooks, SF, 27, Memphis: $17,746,207
Under any circumstances? Really? What about the circumstance where you can’t find a starting-caliber small forward with your non-taxpayer midlevel exception?

The minute Memphis said it wasn’t bringing back Brooks, however, he immediately became a hugely interesting free agent for any team with cap space and defensive issues. Coming off a second-team All-Defense selection and in the prime of his career at 27, Brooks should be an attractive target for cap room teams such as Houston, Detroit and Utah who need a defensive stopper and have the ability to go above the midlevel exception on a multi-year deal.

TIER IV: Solid players who help
21. Harrison Barnes, PF, 31, Sacramento: $17,473,621
Barnes isn’t a spring chicken anymore, but he’s been incredible durable, he shoots 37.8 percent from 3 for his career, he still has enough juice off the dribble to attack a closeout, and his strength allows him to hold up well in size mismatches.

That list of strengths made him a great fit in Sacramento this season, but it’s possible the Kings seek an upgrade. If they renounce Barnes, they can generate about $21 million in cap room, even while keeping Trey Lyles’ Bird rights. That might give them an opening to try upgrading to a younger model (such as P.J. Washington above or the Wizards’ Kyle Kuzma), although this is not a power-forward heavy market and the Pacers will likely eat first at the four.

22. Christian Wood, C, 27, Dallas: $17,289,331
Well, that was an interesting ride. The Mavs steadily soured on Wood despite substantial production, partly because of his defense at the five and partly because everything got weird in Dallas during the second half of the season.

Wood is caught somewhat between positions at 6-10, 214 pounds, and might function best as a third big man who can flex between power forward and center. At either spot, he is a huge force offensively, with 3-point range, the ability to attack off the dribble and enough pop to be a lob threat as a rim runner. The other use for him, however, is just as a starting center, especially if he’s paired with a bully four who can crossmatch with him at times.

Wood’s other calling card is that he’s the best big who is clearly available, with the other centers on this list likely returning to their own teams. He should be the first call for any team in need of offensive firepower at the center spot.

23. Donte DiVincenzo, SG, 26, Golden State (player option): $16,280,336
DiVincenzo got what he needed out of his year in Golden State, rehabilitating his value by shooting 39.7 percent from 3 and entering free agency right in his prime. The question is whether anybody values him enough to pay him as a starter with cap space, or whether he tops as a midlevel exception signing for about $52 million over four years. With a paucity of teams with cap space and a crowded shooting guard market, it’s possible he gets squeezed.

Either way, however, he will do far better than the $4.5 million taxpayer MLE he had to settle for last summer. DiVincenzo has a player option for $4.7 million to return to the Warriors, I should note, but there is zero chance he exercises it.

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24. Brook Lopez, C, 35, Milwaukee: $16,241,034
The truism with players this old is that it isn’t the money that burns you, it’s the years. Lopez was awesome this season, but he’s 35 and missed nearly all the previous season with back surgery. Between that and his playing the least valuable position, the BORD$ valuation is pretty conservative.

Milwaukee has absolutely no choice but to bring Lopez back and, as noted with Middleton above, has some incentives to extend out the years rather than going high on the money in 2023-24. In Lopez’s case, however, that’s constrained both by the “over-38” rule and by the real possibility that Lopez could decline quickly in the out years on a new contract. I don’t think the money gets quite as low as this BORD$ number suggests, but maybe something in the range of $55 million to $60 million over three years?

25. Grant Williams, PF, 24, Boston (restricted): $15,159,221
Williams is a 6-6 power forward with a career PER of 9.7. And yet, he’s become an indispensable player for one of the best teams in the league because of his ability to defend multiple positions and make open 3-pointers. He’s a 37.9 percent career marksman from deep who offers highly switchable defense, which means he’s much more playoff-viable than most players of this ilk.

Between Williams’ wavering role in the second half of the season and Boston’s luxury-tax situation, some wonder if the Celtics would match a strong offer sheet for Williams; something in the high teens would push Boston to within inches of the punitive second apron. At the same time, it’s hard to see how Boston could replace him in its rotation if he were to walk, and the Celtics could likely move other contracts (notably Danilo Gallinari and Payton Pritchard) to ease their tax burden.
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Re: John Hollinger: Top 25 Free Agents According to BORD$ 

Post#15 » by douggood » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:34 pm

JJ From Deep wrote:For those us that don't have the athletic, can somebody list the full list of 25 players?

TIER I: The All-Stars
1. Kyrie Irving, PG, 31, Dallas: $50,555,884
2. James Harden, SG, 33, Philadelphia (player option): $47,075,783
3. Fred VanVleet, PG, 29, Toronto (player option): $46,873,792
4. Kristaps Porziņģis, C, 27, Washington (player option): $39,132,351

TIER II: High-end role players
5. Miles Bridges, PF, 25, Charlotte (restricted): $29,689,570
6. Josh Hart, SG, 28, New York (player option): $28,607,658
7. D’Angelo Russell, PG, 27, L.A. Lakers: $26,867,883
8. Khris Middleton, SF, 31, Milwaukee (player option): $26,822,042
9. Cam Johnson, PF, 27, Brooklyn (restricted): $26,368,306
10. Jakob Poeltl, C, 27, Toronto: $25,260,040
11. Draymond Green, PF, 33, Golden State (player option): $23,789,491
12. Austin Reaves, SG, 25, L.A. Lakers (restricted): $22,865,329
13. Gary Trent, Jr. SG, 24, Toronto (player option): $21,983,792

TIER III: Good players who could maybe do more
14. Tre Jones, PG, 23, San Antonio (restricted): $20,909,844
15. Jordan Clarkson, SG, 31, Utah (player option): $19,712,238
16. P.J. Washington, PF, 24, Charlotte (restricted): $19,054,564
17. Coby White, SG, 23, Chicago (restricted): $18,678,821
18. Jerami Grant, PF, 29, Portland: $18,560,550
19. Bruce Brown, SF, 26, Denver (player option): $17,764,642
20. Dillon Brooks, SF, 27, Memphis: $17,746,207

TIER IV: Solid players who help
21. Harrison Barnes, PF, 31, Sacramento: $17,473,621
22. Christian Wood, C, 27, Dallas: $17,289,331
23. Donte DiVincenzo, SG, 26, Golden State (player option): $16,280,336
24. Brook Lopez, C, 35, Milwaukee: $16,241,034
25. Grant Williams, PF, 24, Boston (restricted): $15,159,221
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Re: John Hollinger: Top 25 Free Agents According to BORD$ 

Post#16 » by sidsid » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:36 pm

Los_29 wrote:Everybody appreciates what Fred brings except for a few fans on this forum. With that said, this is a bit too generous towards Fred.


Only a few fans on this forum, and nowhere else, would look at a regular season metric that puts Fred as an equal to Kyrie and think they have the same level of value contractually and in the playoffs.

It's a pretty good reason to take the regular season with a heaping pile of salt.
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Re: John Hollinger: Top 25 Free Agents According to BORD$ 

Post#17 » by Duffman100 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:38 pm

If Fred's shot didn't completely go missing, I could understand him in Tier 1. But given how his shot did go missing and his body is seemingly breaking down, I'd have him in that tier 2 section.

Honestly, I'd push Trent down to tier 3.
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Re: John Hollinger: Top 25 Free Agents According to BORD$ 

Post#18 » by bluerap23 » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:42 pm

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Post#19 » by DonDoolie » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:43 pm

FVV tier 1? better than irving? 47m? delete your article sir
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Post#20 » by ItsDanger » Thu Jun 8, 2023 7:47 pm

BORD$? Analytics are only as good as the underlying data and methodology applied. Exhibit A right here. Fred $46M? LOL
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