BrandHIM Miller: The Brandon Miller Thread

[Liver_Pooty]

Lol ah hell. Swedd makes me giggle.

[SWedd523]

Lol ah hell. Swedd makes me giggle.

I'm just waiting on someone to say Scoot is going to be better than Lin and inadvertently start WW3 with China.

[JDR720]

You're argument is literally that Miller can do X because other players have done it, yet Scoot can't do Y even if other players have done it

Isn't your argument the inverse?

If folks can assume Scoot is going to cure Cancer, develop synthetic gasoline, and invent interstellar travel, then why can't Miller turn into a LeBron level passer?

No, I've never said Miller can't be a good playmaker. I've said several times that Miller would be my pick if we didn't already have Melo. As far as I can tell, most of the team Scoot folks would be perfectly fine with Miller being the pick.

And the pro-Scoot people aren't saying that about Scoot. We're saying he can improve as a shooter and has tools to be a good defender, since those are his current weak spots.

Meanwhile, some on team Miller are acting as if Scoot is the PG version of MKG or something.

[JDR720]

Karl Towns shot 25% from 3 in college on .2 attempts and is now one of the best shooting 7 footers all time. Therefor, Scoot is probably going to be Steph that can dunk.

[JMAC3]

His argument is not about percentage, it's all about attempts. He's basically saying no one has ever shot fewer than 3 3PAs their last year in college and turned into a good NBA shooter.

Oddly specific criteria. I would think a non-shooter shooting a bunch of 3's would be a bad thing. But I guess not.

Anyways, more examples.

Tyrese Maxey - 29% on 3.6 attempts in college. 43% this season in NBA
Kawai - 29% on 2.5 attempts. 39% for career
Alec Burkes - 29% on 3.5 attempts. 38% for career.
Jerami Grant - 0% on 0 attempts. 36% for career (3 seasons of 39% +)
Normal Powell - 31% on 3 attempts. 39% for career.
Grant Williams - 32% on 1 attempt. 38% for career.
De'Anthony Melton - 28% on 2 attempts. 37% for career (39 this season)
Tobias Harris - 30% on 2 attempts. 37% for career.
Jrue Holiday - 30% on 2.5 attempts. 37% for career.
Christian Wood - 28% on 3 attempts. 38% for career.
Brook Lopez - 0% on 0 attempts, also didn't shoot 3's for first half of NBA career. 35% since.
Al Horford - 0% on 0 attempts. also didn't shoot 3's for first half of NBA career. 37% since.
Myles Turner - 27% on 2 attempts. 35% for career.
Ant Edwards - 29% on 7 attempts. 35% for career.
Trey Lyles - 13% on 1 attempt. 34% for career.

And that's barely scratching the surface and would be much more extensive if you look at how they shot as teenagers, like Donovan Mitchell and Kemba (both under 30%). There are plenty of examples of NBA players, mostly bigs, turning into shooters out of nowhere too.

Good job, someone finally actually pulled some numbers. That is a start. Still not sure why Anthony Edwards is in the list. Literally anyone who watched him in college knew he was going to be a good shooter in NBA, he made 72 threes in 32 games vs Scoot making 33 in 46 games.

I think Maxey is a good example, but even he went 21st because people were unsure about his shooting.

I do think it says something that most of the list were 2nd rounders, centers or guys drafted over a decade ago when threes weren't that important. but hey it is better than anything anyone else had sent so far.

[SWedd523]

You're argument is literally that Miller can do X because other players have done it, yet Scoot can't do Y even if other players have done it

Isn't your argument the inverse?

If folks can assume Scoot is going to cure Cancer, develop synthetic gasoline, and invent interstellar travel, then why can't Miller turn into a LeBron level passer?

No, I've never said Miller can't be a good playmaker. I've said several times that Miller would be my pick if we didn't already have Melo. As far as I can tell, most of the team Scoot folks would be perfectly fine with Miller being the pick.

And the pro-Scoot people aren't saying that about Scoot. We're saying he can improve as a shooter and has tools to be a good defender, since those are his current weak spots.

Meanwhile, some on team Miller are acting as if Scoot is the PG version of MKG or something.

No, you misunderstood my usage of inverse.

Your original quote

You're argument is literally that Miller can do X because other players have done it, yet Scoot can't do Y even if other players have done it

It's ironic because you're simultaneously arguing that Scoot can do X because other players have done it, yet Miller can't do Y even if other players have done it.

That's all I'm getting at.

[SWedd523]

Karl Towns shot 25% from 3 in college on .2 attempts and is now one of the best shooting 7 footers all time. Therefor, Scoot is probably going to be Steph that can dunk.

Anything less than Steph shooting in Westbrook's body and he's a disappointment IMHO

EDIT: I'm just saying we've never seen Scoot and Jesus in the same room at the same time.

[yosemiteben]

Now you just want to take this very rare case, and say Scoot will do that???? It makes no sense, especially when there are 100's of 1 and done prospects we could look at compare Scoot shooting to... I could of said limit the case scenario to only freshman drafted, but I even gave you more options to use the final year of college production (again the most important when it comes to getting drafted)....

Just out of curiosity, did you actually look up these stats and couldn't find anyone? Because I assumed you had, but now it very much seems like you've been spending all this time saying no one has ever done what we think Scoot can do without researching it.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Some Miller quotes on TideFans.com when he declared for the draft.

"Good luck to Brandon. I believe Brandon will go down as the most talented player Bama has ever had."

"No surprise. Best of luck, Brandon. it was fun watching you wear Crimson and White! Roll Tide!"

"We all expected this news. Can't be upset about it. Hope he does well but as for me I know I will have enjoyed him in Bama Crimson more than I ever will in any NBA color."

"Thanks for the incredible season Mr. Miller and I wish you success no matter which crappy team picks you!" F you too lol

"Good luck Brandon. It was a privilege to get to see you play. RTR"


It's clear Alabama fans think incredibly highly of him and they watch more of him than anyone else, even taking into account homer bias.

One way or another we are going to get a good one.

[Bassman]

I love stats, and they matter. However, I want a player to pass my eye test as I watch tape (or viewed live TV, or YouTube, etc.). Playing in competitive situations is the acid test. Just because a player is missing elements in their game right now, how big is the gap to get better, and what does that look like? For example, I was mortified by the pick of MKG at #2 because he had a completely broken jump shot. His form was warped, and no amount of instruction was going to fix that.

For MY eye test I simplify the weakness areas for both players and if I think they can improve on those.

Scoot: Performance in competition was inconsistent and at times mediocre = Red flag. I do think he will improve on this with dedicated work and instruction, but fear it will always be a trait he cannot overcome. That would keep him from becoming a star player and diminish his value selecting #2 overall. Shooting = Yellow flag. His shooting form is good but needs development to improve consistency and range. I think he will improve but likely be an average shooter at the next level. Defense = Yellow flag. Scoot’s athleticism and work ethic should help him grow here, but the inconsistency issue can play a role in how successful that becomes. His height will still be a factor despite his wingspan (he does play larger than 6-2). I think he can be an above average defender on a TEAM of plus defenders. Next to LaMelo it will hurt him.

Miller: Finishing in heavy traffic against tough defenders = Yellow flag (with some splotches of red). Miller is willing to get in the mix but his success rate there is much lower. He also tends to toss the ball early in the paint avoiding the big bodies. We all know he needs muscle and weight, but ultimately his role is SF largely outside with some penetration. He will improve but don’t expect him to mix it up much. Defense against perimeter = Yellow flag. I was hoping Miller could be a uber tall SG but he doesn’t have the quickness to defend fast guards in perimeter ISO. Even with improved strength and agility his future role isn’t likely as a 2 guard. Turnover to assists = White flag. Brandon tried to do too much as the focal point of Bama’s offense. He was stripped by quick guards or via his fumbles at double teams. He will improve this as his handle is good + better players will help spacing. I think his passing will be a plus at the pro level (he is a good passer).

So eye test for me I think Miller’s negatives will improve slightly more than Scoot’s.

Eye test on positives, Miller is the better player now and I think into the future. Just so much he does well and that shooting is HUGELY IMPORTANT to this team and in the league.

[Liver_Pooty]

I love stats, and they matter. However, I want a player to pass my eye test as I watch tape (or viewed live TV, or YouTube, etc.). Playing in competitive situations is the acid test. Just because a player is missing elements in their game right now, how big is the gap to get better, and what does that look like? For example, I was mortified by the pick of MKG at #2 because he had a completely broken jump shot. His form was warped, and no amount of instruction was going to fix that.

For MY eye test I simplify the weakness areas for both players and if I think they can improve on those.

Scoot: Performance in competition was inconsistent and at times mediocre = Red flag. I do think he will improve on this with dedicated work and instruction, but fear it will always be a trait he cannot overcome. That would keep him from becoming a star player and diminish his value selecting #2 overall. Shooting = Yellow flag. His shooting form is good but needs development to improve consistency and range. I think he will improve but likely be an average shooter at the next level. Defense = Yellow flag. Scoot’s athleticism and work ethic should help him grow here, but the inconsistency issue can play a role in how successful that becomes. His height will still be a factor despite his wingspan (he does play larger than 6-2). I think he can be an above average defender on a TEAM of plus defenders. Next to LaMelo it will hurt him.

Miller: Finishing in heavy traffic against tough defenders = Yellow flag (with some splotches of red). Miller is willing to get in the mix but his success rate there is much lower. He also tends to toss the ball early in the paint avoiding the big bodies. We all know he needs muscle and weight, but ultimately his role is SF largely outside with some penetration. He will improve but don’t expect him to mix it up much. Defense against perimeter = Yellow flag. I was hoping Miller could be a uber tall SG but he doesn’t have the quickness to defend fast guards in perimeter ISO. Even with improved strength and agility his future role isn’t likely as a 2 guard. Turnover to assists = White flag. Brandon tried to do too much as the focal point of Bama’s offense. He was stripped by quick guards or via his fumbles at double teams. He will improve this as his handle is good + better players will help spacing. I think his passing will be a plus at the pro level (he is a good passer).

So eye test for me I think Miller’s negatives will improve slightly more than Scoot’s.

Eye test on positives, Miller is the better player now and I think into the future. Just so much he does well and that shooting is HUGELY IMPORTANT to this team and in the league.

That's me in a nutshell. I'm going purely by eye test. I'll let the other fellas get into analytics or what not. I've never been into that.

[Liver_Pooty]

He also has some "dog" in him. After that gun ordeal at South Carolina he was getting heckled and booed like crazy. Dropped 41 on them with the game winning layup. He responds well to scrutiny and didn't fold.

[JMAC3]

Now you just want to take this very rare case, and say Scoot will do that???? It makes no sense, especially when there are 100's of 1 and done prospects we could look at compare Scoot shooting to... I could of said limit the case scenario to only freshman drafted, but I even gave you more options to use the final year of college production (again the most important when it comes to getting drafted)....

Just out of curiosity, did you actually look up these stats and couldn't find anyone? Because I assumed you had, but now it very much seems like you've been spending all this time saying no one has ever done what we think Scoot can do without researching it.

Based on what guys that couldn't shoot but then did? The list from earlier with meh examples?

Tyrese Maxey- good example
Kawai- drafted in 2011
Alec Burkes - drafted in 2011
Jerami Grant - 2nd rounder
Normal Powell - 2nd rounder
Grant Williams - sure this is fine.
De'Anthony Melton - 2nd rounder
Tobias Harris - drafted in 2011
Jrue Holiday - drafted in 2009
Christian Wood - center
Brook Lopez - center
Al Horford - center
Myles Turner - center
Ant Edwards - shouldn't be on the list, didn't meet standards
Trey Lyles - makes less than 1 three per game for his career, is that a good shooter at 34%... I wouldn't call that a good shooter

I think Maxey is a good example, and Jaylen Brown as well....

but yeah Centers not shooting in college isn't some unheard of thing. Them getting to the league and being good shooters once the coaching staff lets them shoot is not a shock in todays modern game. Speaking of modern game, in 2010 shooting wasn't as important so not a shock to see some guys not have it as main stays when the average 3s attempted per game was 17... now the average has doubled to 33 attempts per game... so really a guy shooting 3 threes back then was equivalent to someone shooting 6 in todays NBA.

Scoot shooting the same number of threes per game that Jrue Holiday did 14 years ago is your go to example you got it dude.

[yosemiteben]

Now you just want to take this very rare case, and say Scoot will do that???? It makes no sense, especially when there are 100's of 1 and done prospects we could look at compare Scoot shooting to... I could of said limit the case scenario to only freshman drafted, but I even gave you more options to use the final year of college production (again the most important when it comes to getting drafted)....

Just out of curiosity, did you actually look up these stats and couldn't find anyone? Because I assumed you had, but now it very much seems like you've been spending all this time saying no one has ever done what we think Scoot can do without researching it.

Based on what guys that couldn't shoot but then did? The list from earlier with meh examples...

I'm not sure what question you're responding to, but it's not the one I asked.

[BeesWax]

Now you just want to take this very rare case, and say Scoot will do that???? It makes no sense, especially when there are 100's of 1 and done prospects we could look at compare Scoot shooting to... I could of said limit the case scenario to only freshman drafted, but I even gave you more options to use the final year of college production (again the most important when it comes to getting drafted)....

Just out of curiosity, did you actually look up these stats and couldn't find anyone? Because I assumed you had, but now it very much seems like you've been spending all this time saying no one has ever done what we think Scoot can do without researching it.

Based on what guys that couldn't shoot but then did? The list from earlier with meh examples?

Tyrese Maxey- good example
Kawai- drafted in 2011
Alec Burkes - drafted in 2011
Jerami Grant - 2nd rounder
Normal Powell - 2nd rounder
Grant Williams - sure this is fine.
De'Anthony Melton - 2nd rounder
Tobias Harris - drafted in 2011
Jrue Holiday - drafted in 2009
Christian Wood - center
Brook Lopez - center
Al Horford - center
Myles Turner - center
Ant Edwards - shouldn't be on the list, didn't meet standards
Trey Lyles - makes less than 1 three per game for his career, is that a good shooter at 34%... I wouldn't call that a good shooter

I think Maxey is a good example, and Jaylen Brown as well....

but yeah Centers not shooting in college isn't some unheard of thing. Them getting to the league and being good shooters once the coaching staff lets them shoot is not a shock in todays modern game. Speaking of modern game, in 2010 shooting wasn't as important so not a shock to see some guys not have it as main stays when the average 3s attempted per game was 17... now the average has doubled to 33 attempts per game... so really a guy shooting 3 threes back then was equivalent to someone shooting 6 in todays NBA.

Scoot shooting the same number of threes per game that Jrue Holiday did 14 years ago is your go to example you got it dude.

Way to move the goalpost. You asked a question and got tons of answers.

Here is a great example.
Kemba Walker freshman year played 25 minutes a game and shot 2.1 threes at 27% and in the NBA became a career 36% shooter on over 6 attempts per game.

Regardless of where any of these players were draft the question was has anyone ever shown the improvement. The answer is yes and that a lot of people have improved their shooting and even some becoming prolific at it. Trying to cite that they were second round picks is irrelevant because if we went back knowing what we know now they would not have been.

In a yard barker redraft they had Grant at 13 and hoops hype had him at 11. Hoops hype had Powell at 8 in their redraft.

So yeah the question you originally posed was has anyone ever done what people are saying they believe Henderson can do and the answer to that is yes. Plenty have done it and as said before if you go and look at some of the multiyear college guys and their stats from freshman years like what Scoot would have been this year that number increases.

I get you like Miller but your irrational hate for Scoot makes no sense. Scoot fans have heard what is said about Miller and accepted it a when questioning him they accept answers. You just hate Scoot so much even when you get proven wrong you move the goal. No matter who we draft it appears we have a shot to have a really good player. Maybe Scoots shooting never improves and maybe Miller ends up in jail. Maybe Scoot isn't as athletic as it looks like he is and maybe Miller really can't play against good competition. There are tons of questions and likely years before we know the answers. Lets just all hope that whichever one we pick pans out finally.

[JMAC3]

Just out of curiosity, did you actually look up these stats and couldn't find anyone? Because I assumed you had, but now it very much seems like you've been spending all this time saying no one has ever done what we think Scoot can do without researching it.

Based on what guys that couldn't shoot but then did? The list from earlier with meh examples?

Tyrese Maxey- good example
Kawai- drafted in 2011
Alec Burkes - drafted in 2011
Jerami Grant - 2nd rounder
Normal Powell - 2nd rounder
Grant Williams - sure this is fine.
De'Anthony Melton - 2nd rounder
Tobias Harris - drafted in 2011
Jrue Holiday - drafted in 2009
Christian Wood - center
Brook Lopez - center
Al Horford - center
Myles Turner - center
Ant Edwards - shouldn't be on the list, didn't meet standards
Trey Lyles - makes less than 1 three per game for his career, is that a good shooter at 34%... I wouldn't call that a good shooter

I think Maxey is a good example, and Jaylen Brown as well....

but yeah Centers not shooting in college isn't some unheard of thing. Them getting to the league and being good shooters once the coaching staff lets them shoot is not a shock in todays modern game. Speaking of modern game, in 2010 shooting wasn't as important so not a shock to see some guys not have it as main stays when the average 3s attempted per game was 17... now the average has doubled to 33 attempts per game... so really a guy shooting 3 threes back then was equivalent to someone shooting 6 in todays NBA.

Scoot shooting the same number of threes per game that Jrue Holiday did 14 years ago is your go to example you got it dude.

Way to move the goalpost. You asked a question and got tons of answers.

Here is a great example.
Kemba Walker freshman year played 25 minutes a game and shot 2.1 threes at 27% and in the NBA became a career 36% shooter on over 6 attempts per game.

Regardless of where any of these players were draft the question was has anyone ever shown the improvement. The answer is yes and that a lot of people have improved their shooting and even some becoming prolific at it. Trying to cite that they were second round picks is irrelevant because if we went back knowing what we know now they would not have been.

In a yard barker redraft they had Grant at 13 and hoops hype had him at 11. Hoops hype had Powell at 8 in their redraft.

So yeah the question you originally posed was has anyone ever done what people are saying they believe Henderson can do and the answer to that is yes. Plenty have done it and as said before if you go and look at some of the multiyear college guys and their stats from freshman years like what Scoot would have been this year that number increases.

I get you like Miller but your irrational hate for Scoot makes no sense. Scoot fans have heard what is said about Miller and accepted it a when questioning him they accept answers. You just hate Scoot so much even when you get proven wrong you move the goal. No matter who we draft it appears we have a shot to have a really good player. Maybe Scoots shooting never improves and maybe Miller ends up in jail. Maybe Scoot isn't as athletic as it looks like he is and maybe Miller really can't play against good competition. There are tons of questions and likely years before we know the answers. Lets just all hope that whichever one we pick pans out finally.

I said Maxey and Brown were good examples, I would just prefer to see more like that. The whole point of the convo isn't that guys can never ever ever improve their shooting. Obviously, it happens.

Just think showing me 2nd rounders who sucked at shooting and were bad shooters that improved is a good reason to take a guy 2nd overall because he can improve too.

Or showing centers who never shot the ball developing shots 7 years into their careers to match current game style is the same thing. Especially when they are mainly shooting wide open catch and shoot threes vs Scoot being a primary ball handler who will be shooting threes off screens, stepbacks etc to be effective. It is night and day when it comes to shooting.

I have been asking for examples, so I appreciate that 3 weeks later someone actually tried finding some comparables though.

My argument was and still is not that Scoot absolutely will never ever or can never ever improve his shooting. Just think banking on it as a guarantee seems strange and not how I evaluate prospects.

[JMAC3]

Just out of curiosity, did you actually look up these stats and couldn't find anyone? Because I assumed you had, but now it very much seems like you've been spending all this time saying no one has ever done what we think Scoot can do without researching it.

Based on what guys that couldn't shoot but then did? The list from earlier with meh examples...

I'm not sure what question you're responding to, but it's not the one I asked.

Yes, I looked up examples. Mainly of other lottery guards that would play similar roles to Scoot in the NBA.

How foolish of me not to go back to 20 years ago, look at centers and guys that were taken in the 2nd round. Clearly those are the best examples.

[BeesWax]

Based on what guys that couldn't shoot but then did? The list from earlier with meh examples?

Tyrese Maxey- good example
Kawai- drafted in 2011
Alec Burkes - drafted in 2011
Jerami Grant - 2nd rounder
Normal Powell - 2nd rounder
Grant Williams - sure this is fine.
De'Anthony Melton - 2nd rounder
Tobias Harris - drafted in 2011
Jrue Holiday - drafted in 2009
Christian Wood - center
Brook Lopez - center
Al Horford - center
Myles Turner - center
Ant Edwards - shouldn't be on the list, didn't meet standards
Trey Lyles - makes less than 1 three per game for his career, is that a good shooter at 34%... I wouldn't call that a good shooter

I think Maxey is a good example, and Jaylen Brown as well....

but yeah Centers not shooting in college isn't some unheard of thing. Them getting to the league and being good shooters once the coaching staff lets them shoot is not a shock in todays modern game. Speaking of modern game, in 2010 shooting wasn't as important so not a shock to see some guys not have it as main stays when the average 3s attempted per game was 17... now the average has doubled to 33 attempts per game... so really a guy shooting 3 threes back then was equivalent to someone shooting 6 in todays NBA.

Scoot shooting the same number of threes per game that Jrue Holiday did 14 years ago is your go to example you got it dude.

Way to move the goalpost. You asked a question and got tons of answers.

Here is a great example.
Kemba Walker freshman year played 25 minutes a game and shot 2.1 threes at 27% and in the NBA became a career 36% shooter on over 6 attempts per game.

Regardless of where any of these players were draft the question was has anyone ever shown the improvement. The answer is yes and that a lot of people have improved their shooting and even some becoming prolific at it. Trying to cite that they were second round picks is irrelevant because if we went back knowing what we know now they would not have been.

In a yard barker redraft they had Grant at 13 and hoops hype had him at 11. Hoops hype had Powell at 8 in their redraft.

So yeah the question you originally posed was has anyone ever done what people are saying they believe Henderson can do and the answer to that is yes. Plenty have done it and as said before if you go and look at some of the multiyear college guys and their stats from freshman years like what Scoot would have been this year that number increases.

I get you like Miller but your irrational hate for Scoot makes no sense. Scoot fans have heard what is said about Miller and accepted it a when questioning him they accept answers. You just hate Scoot so much even when you get proven wrong you move the goal. No matter who we draft it appears we have a shot to have a really good player. Maybe Scoots shooting never improves and maybe Miller ends up in jail. Maybe Scoot isn't as athletic as it looks like he is and maybe Miller really can't play against good competition. There are tons of questions and likely years before we know the answers. Lets just all hope that whichever one we pick pans out finally.

I said Maxey and Brown were good examples, I would just prefer to see more like that. The whole point of the convo isn't that guys can never ever ever improve their shooting. Obviously, it happens.

Just think showing me 2nd rounders who sucked at shooting and were bad shooters that improved is a good reason to take a guy 2nd overall because he can improve too.

Or showing centers who never shot the ball developing shots 7 years into their careers to match current game style is the same thing. Especially when they are mainly shooting wide open catch and shoot threes vs Scoot being a primary ball handler who will be shooting threes off screens, stepbacks etc to be effective. It is night and day when it comes to shooting.

I have been asking for examples, so I appreciate that 3 weeks later someone actually tried finding some comparables though.

My argument was and still is not that Scoot absolutely will never ever or can never ever improve his shooting. Just think banking on it as a guarantee seems strange and not how I evaluate prospects.

Sure it is. You are evaluating Miller that way. We have shown how against high level athletes his size he fades. He failed against Leaky Black badly and Leaky is considered borderline to get drafted. What he is is 6'8 and highly athletic and a good defender. It appears Miller will struggle against the size and ability of people he will see on a regular basis based off what we have seen against guys in his size range and NBA level athletic ability. Can you find me someone who struggled so dramatically against good competition that went on to excel and perform at a high level regularly in the NBA?

Everyone makes some concessions for their guy and I get that but to dog one player endlessly while overlooking the weaknesses of the other doesn't help.

[JMAC3]

Sure it is. You are evaluating Miller that way. We have shown how against high level athletes his size he fades. He failed against Leaky Black badly and Leaky is considered borderline to get drafted. What he is is 6'8 and highly athletic and a good defender. It appears Miller will struggle against the size and ability of people he will see on a regular basis based off what we have seen against guys in his size range and NBA level athletic ability. Can you find me someone who struggled so dramatically against good competition that went on to excel and perform at a high level regularly in the NBA?

Everyone makes some concessions for their guy and I get that but to dog one player endlessly while overlooking the weaknesses of the other doesn't help.

He had 36 vs Julian Strawther (a lot people like him at pick 27)
He had 41 vs GG Jackson (a lot of people like him as high as 15)
He had 38 in two games vs Anthony Black and Jordan Walsh (considered 2 of the best defenders in the class) 11/19 shooting those 2 games. Oh Ricky Council will be drafted too
He had 35 in two games vs Missouri and Kobe Brown on 12/23 shooting
He had 19 vs Cason Wallace, Chris Livingston and Oscar Tshebiwa
He had 24 vs Izzo and Mi st
He had 18 vs National title Uconn Andre Jackson, Sonogo, Hawkins


Plenty of games vs NBA talent that he was fine in.

[JMAC3]

College dunks in season they were drafted:
Cade Cunningham 8 dunks
Cam Reddish 7 dunks
Kyle Anderson 7 dunks
AJ Griffin 8 dunks
Khris Middleton 2 dunks
Otto Porter Jr 8 dunks

Brandon Miller 22 dunks