The Tim Connelly Thread (prev./still Fire Him)

[Folklore]

The worst part is not the fact that Greg Monroe didn't play with Kat so why put all chips on an experiment that everone wanted but never tried? This gamble is bs, because is it not only a gamble, but it now gives DLo now has leverage on his next contract along with everyone else lol. I think that Andre with his ability to put the ball on the floor and speed would have been a lot better than Rudy.

Did Connelly not know about the issue with Rudy and DM? The comments from our players about Rudy? Waiting to see how well Kessler plays? Waiting to see when DM asks to get traded because of Rudy? why overpay for a guy the star of the team doesn't like??

Connelly should be fired.

[KGdaBom]

Connelly built a powerhouse in Denver and he's only been on the job in MN for a few weeks. Can we wait on results before we call for his head? This thread is embarrassing.

I think this thread is good for a laugh. Only 1 or 2 people probably taking it seriously.

Cool I'll set a reminder for 3 years from now when we still haven't made the WCF

Anything is possible. We might win it all this year. Towns, Ant, GoBear, McDaniels and Russell might all have season ending injuries and we finish last in the NBA.

[KGdaBom]

Ok who’s going to then?

The Warriors, Clippers, Memphis, New Orleans, and potentially Dallas are all still major threats over the next 4 years. The Thunder too in a couple years. Landscapes change so fast in the NBA, and maybe right now we look like we might crack it, but it's all to be wary of. Which is why you don't trade 5 picks for one player.

Maybe, but another way to phrase it is we traded 5 picks to get a real chance at contending. Those picks could have been used to get multiple role players, but Rudy is a top 10 in the NBA. He SHOULD thrive here. This is the most talented team Rudy has ever played with and should improve over next year. Forbes and Nowell will out play Beasley. Dlo should return more to his career numbers and rebound from a bad season. Ant should be healthy this year (we hope.) I could go on. We are just better than we have ever been. The downside is the future, but we did this for the present.

Moreover, how does Dallas or GSW or Memphis or anyone guard a lineup or Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT and Gobert. Everyone is worrying about our defense. Even if we struggle to defend with this lineup, no one can defend against us either. I am not so sure we don’t win a shoot out where we control the glass and attack the passing lanes.

We're not going to have trouble defending. Let teams do nothing but launch 3s against us. They won't be getting second chances. GoBear is exactly what was needed to fix our defense and rebounding problems.

[winforlose]

The worst part is not the fact that Greg Monroe didn't play with Kat so why put all chips on an experiment that everone wanted but never tried? This gamble is bs, because is it not only a gamble, but it now gives DLo now has leverage on his next contract along with everyone else lol. I think that Andre with his ability to put the ball on the floor and speed would have been a lot better than Rudy.

Did Connelly not know about the issue with Rudy and DM? The comments from our players about Rudy? Waiting to see how well Kessler plays? Waiting to see when DM asks to get traded because of Rudy? why overpay for a guy the star of the team doesn't like??

Connelly should be fired.

I get where you are coming from. But I have been saying since 2016 KAT is a PF. If that is true then he needs a center next to him. Your right that we haven’t really tried it, but we got the best center to put next to KAT. If KAT is a PF he is top 3 in the league behind maybe Giannis, and KD. Rudy is the #1 defensive center, he led the league in rebounding, true shooting and more. Rudy fits the rim protector and paint protector roles perfectly. If KAT at PF needs anything it is rim and paint protection behind him. I mean honestly if we were going to do this who besides Jokic and Embiid would you want?

The other side of this is who is going to be able to out rebound us? Who can guard our lineup of Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT, and Rudy? I mean everyone but MCD is big for the position. Also who better to coach this than Finch. He once had a team where his 3 best players were centers and made it work. He is famous for getting the best out of bigs. Just last year he modified our defensive scheme and jumped us to 8th by defensive rating. He played a big role in developing Jokic and getting AD and Boogie to work together. I just have faith in the man. Finch is the real deal coach we have been waiting for. Give him the most talented Wolves team of all time. Give him owners who are willing to spend into the tax the way other top teams do. Give him the authority to do it his way. Give him all that, then stand back and watch him work. Faith is belief without proof. I cannot prove it to you until October. But if you are ever going to take a leap of faith on anything, take it on the ingenuity of Finch to make this work.

[KGdaBom]

The worst part is not the fact that Greg Monroe didn't play with Kat so why put all chips on an experiment that everone wanted but never tried? This gamble is bs, because is it not only a gamble, but it now gives DLo now has leverage on his next contract along with everyone else lol. I think that Andre with his ability to put the ball on the floor and speed would have been a lot better than Rudy.

Did Connelly not know about the issue with Rudy and DM? The comments from our players about Rudy? Waiting to see how well Kessler plays? Waiting to see when DM asks to get traded because of Rudy? why overpay for a guy the star of the team doesn't like??

Connelly should be fired.

GoBear was the star of Utah. Mitchell was a nice complementary piece.

[Note30]

Ok who’s going to then?

The Warriors, Clippers, Memphis, New Orleans, and potentially Dallas are all still major threats over the next 4 years. The Thunder too in a couple years. Landscapes change so fast in the NBA, and maybe right now we look like we might crack it, but it's all to be wary of. Which is why you don't trade 5 picks for one player.

Maybe, but another way to phrase it is we traded 5 picks to get a real chance at contending. Those picks could have been used to get multiple role players, but Rudy is a top 10 in the NBA. He SHOULD thrive here. This is the most talented team Rudy has ever played with and should improve over next year. Forbes and Nowell will out play Beasley. Dlo should return more to his career numbers and rebound from a bad season. Ant should be healthy this year (we hope.) I could go on. We are just better than we have ever been. The downside is the future, but we did this for the present.

Moreover, how does Dallas or GSW or Memphis or anyone guard a lineup or Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT and Gobert. Everyone is worrying about our defense. Even if we struggle to defend with this lineup, no one can defend against us either. I am not so sure we don’t win a shoot out where we control the glass and attack the passing lanes.

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

[winforlose]

The Warriors, Clippers, Memphis, New Orleans, and potentially Dallas are all still major threats over the next 4 years. The Thunder too in a couple years. Landscapes change so fast in the NBA, and maybe right now we look like we might crack it, but it's all to be wary of. Which is why you don't trade 5 picks for one player.

Maybe, but another way to phrase it is we traded 5 picks to get a real chance at contending. Those picks could have been used to get multiple role players, but Rudy is a top 10 in the NBA. He SHOULD thrive here. This is the most talented team Rudy has ever played with and should improve over next year. Forbes and Nowell will out play Beasley. Dlo should return more to his career numbers and rebound from a bad season. Ant should be healthy this year (we hope.) I could go on. We are just better than we have ever been. The downside is the future, but we did this for the present.

Moreover, how does Dallas or GSW or Memphis or anyone guard a lineup or Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT and Gobert. Everyone is worrying about our defense. Even if we struggle to defend with this lineup, no one can defend against us either. I am not so sure we don’t win a shoot out where we control the glass and attack the passing lanes.

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

I guess we need to agree to disagree. As a parting thought, I think you underestimate the value of size and shooting that our lineup brings. Gobert averages double digit scoring for a reason, and when people cheat off of him to try and double KAT or Ant they will pay.

[KGdaBom]

The Warriors, Clippers, Memphis, New Orleans, and potentially Dallas are all still major threats over the next 4 years. The Thunder too in a couple years. Landscapes change so fast in the NBA, and maybe right now we look like we might crack it, but it's all to be wary of. Which is why you don't trade 5 picks for one player.

Maybe, but another way to phrase it is we traded 5 picks to get a real chance at contending. Those picks could have been used to get multiple role players, but Rudy is a top 10 in the NBA. He SHOULD thrive here. This is the most talented team Rudy has ever played with and should improve over next year. Forbes and Nowell will out play Beasley. Dlo should return more to his career numbers and rebound from a bad season. Ant should be healthy this year (we hope.) I could go on. We are just better than we have ever been. The downside is the future, but we did this for the present.

Moreover, how does Dallas or GSW or Memphis or anyone guard a lineup or Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT and Gobert. Everyone is worrying about our defense. Even if we struggle to defend with this lineup, no one can defend against us either. I am not so sure we don’t win a shoot out where we control the glass and attack the passing lanes.

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

Talk about wanting to note this and visit it again in three years. You realize that advanced stats show GoBear to be a top 10 offensive player in the league? He might not be top ten, but he's pretty darn good offensively in so many ways. The super high FG% the screens he sets, the offensive rebounds giving 2nd chances. GoBear makes us much better offensively and defensively.

[Dewey]

It’s so fun for once to give up secondary assets and acquire a premium asset with a direct positive impact.

[Note30]

Maybe, but another way to phrase it is we traded 5 picks to get a real chance at contending. Those picks could have been used to get multiple role players, but Rudy is a top 10 in the NBA. He SHOULD thrive here. This is the most talented team Rudy has ever played with and should improve over next year. Forbes and Nowell will out play Beasley. Dlo should return more to his career numbers and rebound from a bad season. Ant should be healthy this year (we hope.) I could go on. We are just better than we have ever been. The downside is the future, but we did this for the present.

Moreover, how does Dallas or GSW or Memphis or anyone guard a lineup or Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT and Gobert. Everyone is worrying about our defense. Even if we struggle to defend with this lineup, no one can defend against us either. I am not so sure we don’t win a shoot out where we control the glass and attack the passing lanes.

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

Talk about wanting to note this and visit it again in three years. You realize that advanced stats show GoBear to be a top 10 offensive player in the league? He might not be top ten, but he's pretty darn good offensively in so many ways. The super high FG% the screens he sets, the offensive rebounds giving 2nd chances. GoBear makes us much better offensively and defensively.

Really bro? Yeah I regularly see him playing like Shaq and dominating everyone. Total shot creator and sucks in all defenses. Give me a break. Dude can't even hit a baby hook.

He can set screens and catch lobs. That's not a top 10 offensive player. That's a role player.

[Folklore]

Maybe, but another way to phrase it is we traded 5 picks to get a real chance at contending. Those picks could have been used to get multiple role players, but Rudy is a top 10 in the NBA. He SHOULD thrive here. This is the most talented team Rudy has ever played with and should improve over next year. Forbes and Nowell will out play Beasley. Dlo should return more to his career numbers and rebound from a bad season. Ant should be healthy this year (we hope.) I could go on. We are just better than we have ever been. The downside is the future, but we did this for the present.

Moreover, how does Dallas or GSW or Memphis or anyone guard a lineup or Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT and Gobert. Everyone is worrying about our defense. Even if we struggle to defend with this lineup, no one can defend against us either. I am not so sure we don’t win a shoot out where we control the glass and attack the passing lanes.

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

Talk about wanting to note this and visit it again in three years. You realize that advanced stats show GoBear to be a top 10 offensive player in the league? He might not be top ten, but he's pretty darn good offensively in so many ways. The super high FG% the screens he sets, the offensive rebounds giving 2nd chances. GoBear makes us much better offensively and defensively.

Since you like to point out the details. Gobert has such a high FG% because they're either dunks or in the paint.

[KGdaBom]

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

Talk about wanting to note this and visit it again in three years. You realize that advanced stats show GoBear to be a top 10 offensive player in the league? He might not be top ten, but he's pretty darn good offensively in so many ways. The super high FG% the screens he sets, the offensive rebounds giving 2nd chances. GoBear makes us much better offensively and defensively.

Really bro? Yeah I regularly see him playing like Shaq and dominating everyone. Total shot creator and sucks in all defenses. Give me a break. Dude can't even hit a baby hook.

He can set screens and catch lobs. That's not a top 10 offensive player. That's a role player.

Check the stats. That's all I can say. He influences the offense positively in so many ways. Top 10 per the stats. Maybe only top 20 given margin for error the stats might indicate. Yes he is a role player like every other player in the NBA. He plays a very important role.

[Folklore]

Maybe, but another way to phrase it is we traded 5 picks to get a real chance at contending. Those picks could have been used to get multiple role players, but Rudy is a top 10 in the NBA. He SHOULD thrive here. This is the most talented team Rudy has ever played with and should improve over next year. Forbes and Nowell will out play Beasley. Dlo should return more to his career numbers and rebound from a bad season. Ant should be healthy this year (we hope.) I could go on. We are just better than we have ever been. The downside is the future, but we did this for the present.

Moreover, how does Dallas or GSW or Memphis or anyone guard a lineup or Dlo, Ant, MCD, KAT and Gobert. Everyone is worrying about our defense. Even if we struggle to defend with this lineup, no one can defend against us either. I am not so sure we don’t win a shoot out where we control the glass and attack the passing lanes.

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

Talk about wanting to note this and visit it again in three years. You realize that advanced stats show GoBear to be a top 10 offensive player in the league? He might not be top ten, but he's pretty darn good offensively in so many ways. The super high FG% the screens he sets, the offensive rebounds giving 2nd chances. GoBear makes us much better offensively and defensively.

[frankenwolf]

You're heavily overvaluing Gobert. He's gonna get exposed in any switching matchup. Like almost every playoff series I've seen him play.

He also is an offensive liability unless our plan is to just park Towns in the corner and have him shoot 3's and then run P&R with Gobert.

DLo ain't gonna do anything different than the past two years.

Forbes and Nowell are just a wash.

No one can guard us?! Who? Ant and KAT are the only real gravity drawing offensive threats on this team.

Talk about wanting to note this and visit it again in three years. You realize that advanced stats show GoBear to be a top 10 offensive player in the league? He might not be top ten, but he's pretty darn good offensively in so many ways. The super high FG% the screens he sets, the offensive rebounds giving 2nd chances. GoBear makes us much better offensively and defensively.

Boy, are things slow when someone is reviewing posts from a year ago!

Come on summer league!
Don't fire TC!

[Battletrigger]

I though a couple of times this year about KGdaBom for his casuals and asseveratives opinions that were shown grown so quick.

[KGdaBom]

I though a couple of times this year about KGdaBom for his casuals and asseveratives opinions that were shown grown so quick.

My one reason for not liking the Gobert trade much was I was so high on Walker Kessler. Other than that I still believe we can be great with Gobert, KAT, McDaniels, Ant and Conley.

[shrink]

When Tim Connelly said he was trying hard to extend Naz, I thought it’d be next to impossible for him to not wait for free agency.

When Tim Connelly said he was trying to move into the first round, I thought that would be next to impossible with our limited assets. Connelly traded up to #33, and drafted 1st round talent.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very good GM. Tells us the truth, too.

[SO_MONEY]

When Tim Connelly said he was trying hard to extend Naz, I thought it’d be next to impossible for him to not wait for free agency.

When Tim Connelly said he was trying to move into the first round, I thought that would be next to impossible with our limited assets. Connelly traded up to #33, and drafted 1st round talent.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very good GM. Tells us the truth, too.

When you compare the cost of moving up to 25, with what we gave up to get 33 it was a comparatively great trade, but doesn't undo the Gobert trade and I think forever that will drag down many people's confidence in him.

[KGdaBom]

When Tim Connelly said he was trying hard to extend Naz, I thought it’d be next to impossible for him to not wait for free agency.

When Tim Connelly said he was trying to move into the first round, I thought that would be next to impossible with our limited assets. Connelly traded up to #33, and drafted 1st round talent.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very good GM. Tells us the truth, too.

When you compare the cost of moving up to 25, with what we gave up to get 33 it was a comparatively great trade, but doesn't undo the Gobert trade and I think forever that will drag down many people's confidence in him.

I have no problem in principle with the Gobert trade. I just think TC underestimated what he already had in Kessler.

[younggunsmn]

When Tim Connelly said he was trying hard to extend Naz, I thought it’d be next to impossible for him to not wait for free agency.

When Tim Connelly said he was trying to move into the first round, I thought that would be next to impossible with our limited assets. Connelly traded up to #33, and drafted 1st round talent.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a very good GM. Tells us the truth, too.

I like a lot of his smaller moves, which is why its still so baffling to me how horribly he got fleeced in the Gobert trade.
The other move I really didnt like was giving up 2 future 2nds to move up from 29 to 26 for Moore.

The Russell trade was very very good. Loved it at the time and keeps getting better.
Even more important than the trade, his evaluation on Russell was spot on. Re-signing him would have been catastrophic.
Slo-Mo signing was great.

Naz signing is great, he had a lot of help on that with the chemistry with his teammates and development he made here under Rosas.
Those few games we gave Naz extra run next to KAT before he broke his wrist were huge. Don't know if he re-signs without that.

Trading into the early 2nd for Miller looks great, although it helped it was a weak draft. He hasn't done anything yet though.

I loved the Kessler pick and trade down to pick up 29 too.

He's got a lot of digging to do to get out of the hole he dug himself with the Gobert trade, but if he keeps making good decisions I'll stick with him.
I do think he's got an eye for talent and I like that he seems to value character/BBIQ and culture more than a lot of previous regimes.

I do think he still has another huge problem of his own making to untangle though down the road with 2 bigs making 100 million.
And 2 hugely important extensions to get done with Ant and Jaden.
But hopefully all these small moves he is making in the margins (NAW, Naz, Miller) are laying the groundwork for a foundation beyond the KAT/Gobert experiment.