2023 NBA Draft Prospects

Post #341 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 10:48 am

tugs wrote:Undrafted last year but joined this year's mini camp. How's everyone's thoughts on Kai Sotto?

I think that since the Jazz have Kessler, they should opt to have a backup with different skills instead of doubling down on size. Haven't seen much of Soto so I can't give a fair take but I hope he finds his way into the league.

Post #342 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 10:50 am

PBS: Locke found Kobe Bufkin and is now all in on him at #9. Before that, he discovered Hendricks and said that if he's there at #9 the Jazz have to pick him, so I guess we'll see if he discovers more players. Before that, it was Cason Wallace.

Hoops Addict · Post #343 » by **Hoops Addict** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 1:32 pm

babyjax13 wrote:I haven't been able to see Bilal in a full game, so I don't know. Looks to cut really well, has a handle that looks like it can develop. Jumper is slow. I am intrigued but have no frame of reference for where he should go.

I have seen the first mock where the Jazz pick Coulibaly at #9.

Is there any chance the Jazz take Couli at #9.

Physically he is fast, smooth....he still is getting taller....6 foot 8....appears to be a lock down defender at the SF position.

Hoops Addict · Post #344 » by **Hoops Addict** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 1:36 pm

16. Utah Jazz (via Timberwolves) – Dereck Lively, C Duke

I saw a video where a scout sees Lively make 14 3 pointers in a row from the corner. Misinformation?

Any chance the Jazz at #16. He is not really needed, but he could play 20 of the 48 minutes and sub for Kessler. Some say he was the #1 high school player last year.

Post #345 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 2:19 pm

Coulibaly at #9 seems too high to me. The highest I'd take him is at #16.

As for the Jazz's need for a PG, I think we may need to come to terms with the possibility that the long-term answer at PG for the Jazz may not come from this draft (assuming we aren't getting Scoot). Personally, I'm not overly impressed by the PG crop this year (other than Scoot). Jury is out on Amen Thompson.

bkohler · Post #346 » by **bkohler** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 3:04 pm

If the Jazz want Coulibaly, they should trade back with the Thunder and get their own pick back next year.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #347 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 7:48 pm

bkohler wrote:If the Jazz want Coulibaly, they should trade back with the Thunder and get their own pick back next year.

Coulibaly's potential is enticing, but he is also a work in progress and not a guarantee. I would be surprised if he went top 10. However, if he is the Jazz' guy, I think that your proposal makes a lot of sense for both teams.

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SoCalJazzFan · Post #349 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 8:54 pm

I've been looking into whether the Jazz can blow off drafting a pg this draft and simply draft one or sign a free agent next year.

Of the mock drafts that I looked at for 2024, the top pg prospect is Procter, who decided to forego the draft this year and return to Duke. Major red flag to me. The only other pg prospect in the top 14 is Collier who will be a freshman from USC and is ranked below Proctor (yikes!).

However, if the Jazz aren't in the top 10, they lose their pick and don't get a chance at either of these players (who might not be as good as several of the pgs in this draft).

The 2024 free agent pgs? Dejounte Murray. After that, it drops off a cliff.

The Jazz have Dunn next year on a very team favorable deal, but after that he is an UFA. He is also older. It is questionable whether THT comes back, and even if he does, it is questionable whether he is the PGOTF. (Edit: Is anyone comfortable right now with Sexton as the PGOTF?)

This draft is loaded with pg prospects mocked in the top 16. I think the Jazz have to draft a pg with either #9 or #16.

AingesBurner · Post #350 » by **AingesBurner** » Fri Jun 9, 2023 9:00 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:I've been looking into whether the Jazz can blow off drafting a pg this draft and simply draft one or sign a free agent next year.

Of the mock drafts that I looked at for 2024, the top pg prospect is Procter, who decided to forego the draft this year and return to Duke. Major red flag to me. The only other pg prospect in the top 14 is Collier who will be a freshman from USC and is ranked below Proctor (yikes!).

However, if the Jazz aren't in the top 10, they lose their pick and don't get a chance at either of these players (who might not be as good as several of the pgs in this draft).

The 2024 free agent pgs? Dejounte Murray. After that, it drops off a cliff.

The Jazz have Dunn next year on a very team favorable deal, but after that he is an UFA. He is also older. It is questionable whether THT comes back, and even if he does, it is questionable whether he is the PGOTF.

This draft is loaded with pg prospects mocked in the top 16. I think the Jazz have to draft a pg with either #9 or #16.

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tugs · Post #354 » by **tugs** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:42 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:
tugs wrote:Undrafted last year but joined this year's mini camp. How's everyone's thoughts on Kai Sotto?

I think that since the Jazz have Kessler, they should opt to have a backup with different skills instead of doubling down on size. Haven't seen much of Soto so I can't give a fair take but I hope he finds his way into the league.

He does. Although lanky, very agile, quick, has midrange game as well that can extend to the three. Lateral defense and strength can be improved

That connection with Clarkson should prove useful as well. Wouldn't mind having him in the SL team

Hoops Addict · Post #355 » by **Hoops Addict** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:20 am

bkohler wrote:If the Jazz want Coulibaly, they should trade back with the Thunder and get their own pick back next year.

9. TRADE: Oklahoma City (via Utah) – Taylor Hendricks, UCF

Oklahoma City receives: 9th, 2026 2nd (via Memphis)
Utah receives: 12th, 2024 1st (via Utah)

2023 NBA Mock Draft Analysis: Oklahoma City has 13 first-rounders from the 2024 to 2027 Draft, so Sam Presti can afford to part with one. The Thunder move up to select Taylor Hendricks – a 6’9” forward that provides hounding on-ball defense, terrorizing help defense, three-point shooting, and flashes of off-the-dribble scoring. Hendricks gives Oklahoma City size and versatility and cannot be exploited in a playoff setting (necessary traits for Presti). This is a perfect match for both sides.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #356 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:58 am

Hoops Addict wrote:
bkohler wrote:If the Jazz want Coulibaly, they should trade back with the Thunder and get their own pick back next year.

9. TRADE: Oklahoma City (via Utah) – Taylor Hendricks, UCF

Oklahoma City receives: 9th, 2026 2nd (via Memphis)
Utah receives: 12th, 2024 1st (via Utah)

2023 NBA Mock Draft Analysis: Oklahoma City has 13 first-rounders from the 2024 to 2027 Draft, so Sam Presti can afford to part with one. The Thunder move up to select Taylor Hendricks – a 6’9” forward that provides hounding on-ball defense, terrorizing help defense, three-point shooting, and flashes of off-the-dribble scoring. Hendricks gives Oklahoma City size and versatility and cannot be exploited in a playoff setting (necessary traits for Presti). This is a perfect match for both sides.

If any of Walker, Whitmore or Hendricks are there at #9, I would imagine the Jazz would take them instead of trading the pick or drafting another player. I

Wolverine · Post #357 » by **Wolverine** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:14 am

tugs wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
tugs wrote:Undrafted last year but joined this year's mini camp. How's everyone's thoughts on Kai Sotto?

I think that since the Jazz have Kessler, they should opt to have a backup with different skills instead of doubling down on size. Haven't seen much of Soto so I can't give a fair take but I hope he finds his way into the league.
He does. Although lanky, very agile, quick, has midrange game as well that can extend to the three. Lateral defense and strength can be improved

That connection with Clarkson should prove useful as well. Wouldn't mind having him in the SL team

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Post #358 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:11 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:I've been looking into whether the Jazz can blow off drafting a pg this draft and simply draft one or sign a free agent next year.

Of the mock drafts that I looked at for 2024, the top pg prospect is Procter, who decided to forego the draft this year and return to Duke. Major red flag to me. The only other pg prospect in the top 14 is Collier who will be a freshman from USC and is ranked below Proctor (yikes!).

However, if the Jazz aren't in the top 10, they lose their pick and don't get a chance at either of these players (who might not be as good as several of the pgs in this draft).

The 2024 free agent pgs? Dejounte Murray. After that, it drops off a cliff.

The Jazz have Dunn next year on a very team favorable deal, but after that he is an UFA. He is also older. It is questionable whether THT comes back, and even if he does, it is questionable whether he is the PGOTF. (Edit: Is anyone comfortable right now with Sexton as the PGOTF?)

This draft is loaded with pg prospects mocked in the top 16. I think the Jazz have to draft a pg with either #9 or #16.

Building a good roster is a process that takes time over several seasons. I don't expect the Jazz to have all their pieces within a span of 12 months or so from the time the blew up the previous roster.

The answer to the PG position may come in several ways, such as placeholder players through free agency or trades, signing a guy from Europe, draft. Or if they're lucky, they manage to trade for a PG of stature who can really be a part of the core going forward. Sure, this draft is loaded with PG prospects but none of them are all that impressive other than Scoot to the point where I'm thinking that if we draft PG prospect X then we found our PGOTF.

As for Sexton, I'm on record saying that I'd like to see what he can do as a starter. Due to his injury, we couldn't really see that after the trade deadline but I have no problem with him being the starter next season, and expect that to be the case. After the season, we'll see where we stand.

Catchall · Post #359 » by **Catchall** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:17 pm

Hoops Addict wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I haven't been able to see Bilal in a full game, so I don't know. Looks to cut really well, has a handle that looks like it can develop. Jumper is slow. I am intrigued but have no frame of reference for where he should go.

I have seen the first mock where the Jazz pick Coulibaly at #9.

Is there any chance the Jazz take Couli at #9.

Physically he is fast, smooth....he still is getting taller....6 foot 8....appears to be a lock down defender at the SF position.

He's a project. Think Dante Exum. Upside is real, but I wish he'd shown a little more ability to shoot off the dribble. His jumper has a ways to go.

I think the Jazz liked Coulibaly at #16. Not sure they'd take him at #9. Maybe.

Catchall · Post #360 » by **Catchall** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:18 pm

Hoops Addict wrote:
bkohler wrote:If the Jazz want Coulibaly, they should trade back with the Thunder and get their own pick back next year.

9. TRADE: Oklahoma City (via Utah) – Taylor Hendricks, UCF

Oklahoma City receives: 9th, 2026 2nd (via Memphis)
Utah receives: 12th, 2024 1st (via Utah)

2023 NBA Mock Draft Analysis: Oklahoma City has 13 first-rounders from the 2024 to 2027 Draft, so Sam Presti can afford to part with one. The Thunder move up to select Taylor Hendricks – a 6’9” forward that provides hounding on-ball defense, terrorizing help defense, three-point shooting, and flashes of off-the-dribble scoring. Hendricks gives Oklahoma City size and versatility and cannot be exploited in a playoff setting (necessary traits for Presti). This is a perfect match for both sides.

Jazz are more likely to trade up rather than trade back from 9.