Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup

[m0ng0]

So why can Simons be traded before the draft but Dame can't? If we were talking draft picks next month

[Wizenheimer]

So why can Simons be traded before the draft but Dame can't? If we were talking draft picks next month

it's a long-standing CBA rule governing extensions of existing contracts. Dame signed an extension last July. Simons signed a new contract after his rookie scale had expired. He couldn't have been traded till last Dec 15 (or maybe Jan 15)

[JasonStern]

Quit making things more difficult than they need to be. Bring back The People's Champ, Will "The Thrill" Barton on a biannual exception contract.

[Butter]

If Dame is going to Miami, they aren't sending Bam. Dame and Bam are tight and would largely defeat the purpose of trading for Dame for Miami.

I'm sure you are right, but I don't see any other package that interests me from Miami. They don't have a treasure trove of picks. What do the Blazers receive?

From Miami's perspective, is the step down from Bam to Nurk bigger than the upgrade to Dame?

Yes it is. Nurk is not on Bam's level, but the upgrade from ... literally I have no idea who to Dame is MAASSSIIIVVVEEE. Right now it's Gabe Vincent. So think about the difference in talent from Bam 20/9 to Nurkic 15/7, to Dame 32/7 vs Vincent 9/2. lol

You're talking of a downgrade from All Star to decent starter, vs scrub to HOF player.

Exactly

[Sinobas]

Dame to the Nets? They would obviously not trade Bridges. Would it be Simmons and a bunch of draft picks?

A lineup of Scoot,Simons, Sharpe and Simmons could be entertaining. We'd need to get a center whose name starts with an S.

If Simmons doesn't work out, we're only stuck with his contract for 2 years. But if he somehow resurrected his career it could be a coup. Many players seem to do well in Portland and have a resurgance.

[tester551]

Dame to the Nets? They would obviously not trade Bridges. Would it be Simmons and a bunch of draft picks?

A lineup of Scoot,Simons, Sharpe and Simmons could be entertaining. We'd need to get a center whose name starts with an S.

If Simmons doesn't work out, we're only stuck with his contract for 2 years. But if he somehow resurrected his career it could be a coup. Many players seem to do well in Portland and have a resurgance.

Nets have their own Sharpe, who is a center that starts with an S.
Just include him in the trade too.

It would be fun for announcers to articulate Simmons & Simons. Then have Sharpe & Sharpe all on the court at the same time.

[Wizenheimer]

Dame to the Nets? They would obviously not trade Bridges. Would it be Simmons and a bunch of draft picks?

A lineup of Scoot,Simons, Sharpe and Simmons could be entertaining. We'd need to get a center whose name starts with an S.

If Simmons doesn't work out, we're only stuck with his contract for 2 years. But if he somehow resurrected his career it could be a coup. Many players seem to do well in Portland and have a resurgance.

I really don't know why Portland would accept Simmons as part of a Dame trade. He has massive negative value right now and the Blazers should not trade Dame for negative value. Blazer fans inferiority complex?

besides that, the Nets are the team that traded for Simmons, and if they trade for Dame their best shot at contending might actually be to rehabilitate Simmons. A lineup of Dame-Bridges-Johnson-Simmons-Nurkic could be intriguing if Simmons gets back his form

and yes, I said Nurkic. If it does come down to a Dame-->Brooklyn trade I''d like to see something like:

Dame + Nurkic

for

Dinwiddie + Joe Harris + Nic Claxton + 2025 Phoenix first + 2027 Phoenix/Philly 1st, whichever is higher + the two best of the Phoenix, Dallas, & Brooklyn first round picks. That's 4 first's for Dame (more than fair) and not a single one is certain to be in the lottery, and three of the first's are 4-7 years away. And it still leaves the Nets with some future first's (Blazers keep Claxton)

and what the Blazers should do is immediately re-route Dinwiddie and Harris for more draft capital. Even if they can't be traded at the time, they will be quite functional players on expiring contracts at the trade deadline; they will have value that Portland can extract.

by far the best path for Portland, in the event of a Dame trade, is to become a crappy team and go for more high lottery picks. And Portland should absolutely trade Simons and Grant too for as much draft capital as they can get

Blazer fans just have to keep in mind that trading dame signals a rebuild, and a rebuild could last for years

[JRoy]

Dame to the Nets? They would obviously not trade Bridges. Would it be Simmons and a bunch of draft picks?

A lineup of Scoot,Simons, Sharpe and Simmons could be entertaining. We'd need to get a center whose name starts with an S.

If Simmons doesn't work out, we're only stuck with his contract for 2 years. But if he somehow resurrected his career it could be a coup. Many players seem to do well in Portland and have a resurgance.

I really don't know why Portland would accept Simmons as part of a Dame trade. He has massive negative value right now and the Blazers should not trade Dame for negative value. Blazer fans inferiority complex?

besides that, the Nets are the team that traded for Simmons, and if they trade for Dame their best shot at contending might actually be to rehabilitate Simmons. A lineup of Dame-Bridges-Johnson-Simmons-Nurkic could be intriguing if Simmons gets back his form

and yes, I said Nurkic. If it does come down to a Dame-->Brooklyn trade I''d like to see something like:

Dame + Nurkic

for

Dinwiddie + Joe Harris + Nic Claxton + 2025 Phoenix first + 2027 Phoenix/Philly 1st, whichever is higher + the two best of the Phoenix, Dallas, & Brooklyn first round picks. That's 4 first's for Dame (more than fair) and not a single one is certain to be in the lottery, and three of the first's are 4-7 years away. And it still leaves the Nets with some future first's (Blazers keep Claxton)

and what the Blazers should do is immediately re-route Dinwiddie and Harris for more draft capital. Even if they can't be traded at the time, they will be quite functional players on expiring contracts at the trade deadline; they will have value that Portland can extract.

by far the best path for Portland, in the event of a Dame trade, is to become a crappy team and go for more high lottery picks. And Portland should absolutely trade Simons and Grant too for as much draft capital as they can get

Blazer fans just have to keep in mind that trading dame signals a rebuild, and a rebuild could last for years

The king is dead!

Long live the king!

[Wizenheimer]

The T&T board is just filled with crappy trade ideas for Portland; either for Dame or for #3...or even both

it's open season for robbing the Blazers blind, and for idiot posters telling Blazer fans what poor value Dame and #3 have, so just shut-up and accept our stupid ideas

[HoopsFanAZ]

If Dame was traded to Brooklyn, Brooklyn needs to be feasible afterwards as a playoff team.

1. Picks -- 4 first rounders is is about the sweet spot. 3 is too few.
2. Claxton -- Yes. Young, athletic, D and rim protection.
3. Simmons -- salary filler, they don't need him, maybe a miracle happens and he becomes good, and TWO years of contract.
4. Veterans who can play but at 29-31 years old -- not a fan of having to flip them. If tanking, tank well, because with youth, the Blazers are headed for Suckville in the short term (we hope). Nets need them on the court. Blazers need lottery picks.

5. Get the unofficial, back channel feelers going on a sign and trade -- Cam Johnson for Nurkic and sweeteners. With Claxton a Blazer, they'll need a big man. The conversation of "too bad he's an RFA that you can't trade bit. That would've really helped get this done ... wink, wink, nudge, nudge" and happen to talk with his agent about other matters. Free agency opens, get 'er done.

Cam got dinged up in PHX but at 6'8, willing defender, hits his 3s and is young enough at 27 without too much mileage or serious injuries. Portland could actually try to keep Jerami Grant, but if Dame goes, it's a tougher conversation AND is iffy, perhaps, unwise, anyway. I like Grant.

Dame + Nurkic = Claxton + Cam Johnson + 4 1sts + Simmons' contract?

Scoot or Miller or Amen / Simons / Sharpe / Matisse / Nas / Cam Johnson / Grant? / Claxton / TrendonWatford, JabariWalker, DrEubanks ??? / Badji and two-ways / divine assistance

[DusterBuster]

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Mentioned they are high on Scoot. I know many on here aren’t fans of KAT, but I’m actually of the opinion that I would absolutely trade #3 for KAT.

[Wizenheimer]

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Mentioned they are high on Scoot. I know many on here aren’t fans of KAT, but I’m actually of the opinion that I would absolutely trade #3 for KAT.

personally, unless a C is elite like Jokic & Embiid, I think C is the least impactful position in the NBA. I would not burn a 3rd pick on a 2nd tier C, and I'm not even sure KAT is 2nd tier Embiid/Jokic--->Adebayo/Sabonis---the rest

besides that debate, there is Kat's contract(s) over the next 5 seasons:

$36,016,200 $49,245,000 $53,184,600 $57,124,200 $61,063,800

I have a hard time believing the Vulcans would approve that

[DusterBuster]

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Mentioned they are high on Scoot. I know many on here aren’t fans of KAT, but I’m actually of the opinion that I would absolutely trade #3 for KAT.

personally, unless a C is elite like Jokic & Embiid, I think C is the least impactful position in the NBA. I would not burn a 3rd pick on a 2nd tier C, and I'm not even sure KAT is 2nd tier Embiid/Jokic--->Adebayo/Sabonis---the rest

besides that debate, there is Kat's contract(s) over the next 5 seasons:

$36,016,200 $49,245,000 $53,184,600 $57,124,200 $61,063,800

I have a hard time believing the Vulcans would approve that

I understand I’m on an island with my opinion, but I’m going to stick with it. I think KAT is a good short term salve for keeping Dame, but he’s young enough to stick with Portland beyond Dame and grow with Sharpe. I also think KAT is pretty underrated and a really unique talent that is what you’d hope a top 3 pick turns into, and he plays at a position that’s one of the hardest to fill with upper end talent. I also think the Rudy trade did him such a disservice by forcing him to play PF vs C where he’s clearly more comfortable. On top of all that, I think team of Dame/Sharpe/Thybulle/Grant/KAT is actually pretty strong and well balanced.

As for the Vulcans, I can’t get in their mind so I’m not even going to bother.

[red_power]

KAT definitely has a lot of talent. He's not an alpha dog though and his attitude is a huge question mark but there is a chance that the last one might improve in the proper situation. Remember Gasol before Lakers? Towns reminds a bit of Pau's situation.

[Wizenheimer]

As for the Vulcans, I can’t get in their mind so I’m not even going to bother.

[Sinobas]

Dame to the Nets? They would obviously not trade Bridges. Would it be Simmons and a bunch of draft picks?

A lineup of Scoot,Simons, Sharpe and Simmons could be entertaining. We'd need to get a center whose name starts with an S.

If Simmons doesn't work out, we're only stuck with his contract for 2 years. But if he somehow resurrected his career it could be a coup. Many players seem to do well in Portland and have a resurgance.

I really don't know why Portland would accept Simmons as part of a Dame trade. He has massive negative value right now and the Blazers should not trade Dame for negative value. Blazer fans inferiority complex?

besides that, the Nets are the team that traded for Simmons, and if they trade for Dame their best shot at contending might actually be to rehabilitate Simmons. A lineup of Dame-Bridges-Johnson-Simmons-Nurkic could be intriguing if Simmons gets back his form

and yes, I said Nurkic. If it does come down to a Dame-->Brooklyn trade I''d like to see something like:

Dame + Nurkic

for

Dinwiddie + Joe Harris + Nic Claxton + 2025 Phoenix first + 2027 Phoenix/Philly 1st, whichever is higher + the two best of the Phoenix, Dallas, & Brooklyn first round picks. That's 4 first's for Dame (more than fair) and not a single one is certain to be in the lottery, and three of the first's are 4-7 years away. And it still leaves the Nets with some future first's (Blazers keep Claxton)

and what the Blazers should do is immediately re-route Dinwiddie and Harris for more draft capital. Even if they can't be traded at the time, they will be quite functional players on expiring contracts at the trade deadline; they will have value that Portland can extract.

by far the best path for Portland, in the event of a Dame trade, is to become a crappy team and go for more high lottery picks. And Portland should absolutely trade Simons and Grant too for as much draft capital as they can get

Blazer fans just have to keep in mind that trading dame signals a rebuild, and a rebuild could last for years

Simmons is obviously a huge downgrade from Dame. I was more speculating on who we might acquire if the Nets rumor were true, which I don't really believe.

But if we got a bunch of picks, and a young guy that we know is capable of being a star, would be better than nothing.

[Norm2953]

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Mentioned they are high on Scoot. I know many on here aren’t fans of KAT, but I’m actually of the opinion that I would absolutely trade #3 for KAT.

That $220 Million dollar supermax extension added to Dame makes it financially impossible for Portland

[DusterBuster]

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Mentioned they are high on Scoot. I know many on here aren’t fans of KAT, but I’m actually of the opinion that I would absolutely trade #3 for KAT.

That $220 Million dollar supermax extension added to Dame makes it financially impossible for Portland

Again, not my money so I don’t care. I’m working under the assumption that these are ridiculously rich people who can afford it. I know that’s not 100% accurate, but I also know that when teams are invested in winning, money / salary cap suddenly becomes no issue.

[The Sebastian Express]

I think with Simmons the real concern is not his mentality but his back. There were reports he has actual nerve issues in his back and that's why he was shutdown at points near the end of the season. And I think we all know back injuries are no joke (best of luck to him for healthy recovery), and that's not including back NERVE injuries. That is something that affects back, hips, legs.

I think for Portland if it does come to a point of parting ways, all packages should automatically be demanded to have an unprotected 2026 pick. 2024 and 2025 draft classes are not overly strong and in fact are considered relatively weak compared to recent times, with the exception of if Flagg reclassifies to qualify for 2025 from my understanding.

If we're tanking, we're tanking in terrible years compared to recent ones, and so I want something in that 2026 draft beyond our own stuff.

[DusterBuster]

I think with Simmons the real concern.

Man, sooooo much this. This really is the biggest issue. Beyond the passion for the game and stuff, his back is the biggest problem. He’s no different than Dwight Howard after the Lakers/Rockets stint.