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PaulinVA wrote:?s=20
gambitx777 wrote:Not a great move from OKC here I would have happily traded 8 for 12 the late first and 37 and I have not doing that would have been better for them than a protected pick in 2029
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pcbothwel wrote:PaulinVA wrote:?s=20
This is what I've been preaching (Looking at you PIF...Lol)
OKC hoarded all these picks and now has to sell at a discount....
To discuss a bit more seriously... I think where OKC went wrong was not being more aggressive with using those pick to get better picks and better players.payitforward wrote:pcbothwel wrote:PaulinVA wrote:?s=20
This is what I've been preaching (Looking at you PIF...Lol)
OKC hoarded all these picks and now has to sell at a discount....
I certainly don't see it the way you do. I see a team whose management figured out that it had peaked in '18-19 & '19-20, with no way to get better & contend based on its aging roster, & decided to rebuild around picks & what young players they did have (SGA & Dort in particular).
Based on confidence in their ability to get value out of the draft, they prioritized adding picks in the trades they made to gut their roster of veterans. In doing this, they essentially sacrificed the '20-21 season & the '21-22 season.
This year they started to see the payoff:
Other than SGA, who was drafted in 2018, guys who came into the league before 2019 played a total of 895 minutes.
Their kids won 40 games (12-8 in their last 20).
I.e. the Thunder are on their way back after only 2 down years.
That's an extremely quick start to a rebuild, wouldn't you say?
Not, wrong as in doomed but wrong as mismanagement of assets. Sure they are trending up but having to sell off assets for pennys on the dollar is no goodpayitforward wrote:They "went wrong" -- ??
In the '21-22 season, OKC won 24 games.
In '22-23, the team won 40 games.
What are you saying? That if they'd only been "aggressive" they'd have won... what, 50 games?
Yeah I'm not talking about the good trades lol I'm talking about the silly ones lol !payitforward wrote:"Pennies on the dollar"?
In 2021 OKC traded its second first-round pick, at No. 16, to Houston and chose Alperen Sengun for the Rockets.
They received a pair of future first-round picks in return.
They also had 18 & took Tre Mann (not my favorite pick -- but that's a different issue).
Then they traded 34 & 36 for 32 & took Jeremiah Robinson-Earl.
Then they took Aaron Wiggins at 55.
OTOH, they've done a couple of things I do not understand at all -- in particular, they traded the #30 pick in '22 for JaMychal Green -- whom they bought out a couple of weeks later! There must have been something under the surface there....
80sballboy wrote:?s=20
Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
Rafael122 wrote:80sballboy wrote:?s=20
I can't imagine the haul, jumping from 14 to 2 is significant.
nate33 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:80sballboy wrote:?s=20
I can't imagine the haul, jumping from 14 to 2 is significant.
It would have to involve Ingram.
Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
If they were smart they would try and dump Dyson daniels while people are still high on him. They have that unprotected laker pick in 2024 as well !Rafael122 wrote:nate33 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:
I can't imagine the haul, jumping from 14 to 2 is significant.
It would have to involve Ingram.
Ingram, 1 of Murphy/Jones, 14 and probably a future 1st.
AFM wrote:Thoughts on Ja’s suspension?
montestewart wrote:AFM wrote:Thoughts on Ja’s suspension?
Maybe I don’t know all the facts but if it’s just that video it seems an overreaction
