2023 NBA Draft

clyde21 · Post #2161 » by **clyde21** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:11 pm

deepeeenn wrote:
clyde21 wrote:wouldn't be surprised if he sneaks into late R1

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Like I mentioned with Nnaji, what other skill does he have outside of shooting?

i dunno what that is supposed to mean or maybe you don't know know what specialists are

clyde21 · Post #2162 » by **clyde21** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 7:43 pm

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EvanZ · Post #2163 » by **EvanZ** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:14 pm

Was watching Duke-Syracuse from February. Must have been Whitehead’s best game by far. Looked like a very projectable two-way wing in that game. Was even able to stay in front of Mintz fairly well which is a challenge. His passing in this game really stood out.

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BoyzNTheHood · Post #2164 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:19 pm

EvanZ wrote:Was watching Duke-Syracuse from February. Must have been Whitehead’s best game by far. Looked like a very projectable two-way wing in that game. Was even able to stay in front of Mintz fairly well which is a challenge. His passing in this game really stood out.

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Love me some DWH

The-Stallion70 · Post #2165 » by **The-Stallion70** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:11 pm

What is the best current mock to follow? I've been going to tankathon but I don't know if they keep up with recent developments/news.

EvanZ · Post #2166 » by **EvanZ** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:56 pm

Isn’t it obvious Givony always has the best mock? At least in terms of intel.

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deepeeenn · Post #2167 » by **deepeeenn** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:25 am

clyde21 wrote:i dunno what that is supposed to mean or maybe you don't know know what specialists are

Yeah I guess that’s true. I just value more multifaceted prospects and feel the NBA is likely growing that way. It’s hard to keep one dimensional players on the floor.

deepeeenn · Post #2168 » by **deepeeenn** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:33 am

HiDef wrote:Could say the same of Capela or RW3 no? Nnaji is pretty NBA ready as a shot blocker, offensive rebounding looks very good, great mobility.. surprised nobody wants to take a shot on him even with the feel issues as an 18/19 year old.. then again, if Lively can't even get into the top 10, suppose nobody cares about centers anymore... just going to bat for him.. big fan of his skillset, combines a lot of valuable tools..

I’m blanking on who RW3 is.
I don’t think Nnaji will fall or anything but he really needs to develop a better feel on offense. Capela has better touch than he does. Nnaji really lacks offensive feel or touch outside of lobs and stand still dunks. He rushes which hurts him too. From the video I’ve seen of him, he also really gets down on himself when he can’t finish a play. He’s a project for sure. As defensive center, with little offense to fall back on I think he could easily get played off the floor. I’m not rooting against any of these kids, as long as none of them are dicks.

MemphisX · Post #2169 » by **MemphisX** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:37 am

EvanZ wrote:Isn’t it obvious Givony always has the best mock? At least in terms of intel.

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I think his intel gets better during draft week. His early mocks are sometimes favors.

Colbinii · Post #2170 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:49 am

deepeeenn wrote:
HiDef wrote:Could say the same of Capela or RW3 no? Nnaji is pretty NBA ready as a shot blocker, offensive rebounding looks very good, great mobility.. surprised nobody wants to take a shot on him even with the feel issues as an 18/19 year old.. then again, if Lively can't even get into the top 10, suppose nobody cares about centers anymore... just going to bat for him.. big fan of his skillset, combines a lot of valuable tools..

I’m blanking on who RW3 is.
I don’t think Nnaji will fall or anything but he really needs to develop a better feel on offense. Capela has better touch than he does. Nnaji really lacks offensive feel or touch outside of lobs and stand still dunks. He rushes which hurts him too. From the video I’ve seen of him, he also really gets down on himself when he can’t finish a play. He’s a project for sure. As defensive center, with little offense to fall back on I think he could easily get played off the floor. I’m not rooting against any of these kids, as long as none of them are dicks.

RW3 is Robert Williams on Boston.

clyde21 · Post #2171 » by **clyde21** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:17 am

deepeeenn wrote:
clyde21 wrote:i dunno what that is supposed to mean or maybe you don't know know what specialists are

Yeah I guess that’s true. I just value more multifaceted prospects and feel the NBA is likely growing that way. It’s hard to keep one dimensional players on the floor.

you don't get multifaceted late in the draft, either you get athletic/rsci projects or you get specialists that fit a role.

deepeeenn · Post #2172 » by **deepeeenn** » Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:06 am

clyde21 wrote:
deepeeenn wrote:
clyde21 wrote:i dunno what that is supposed to mean or maybe you don't know know what specialists are

Yeah I guess that’s true. I just value more multifaceted prospects and feel the NBA is likely growing that way. It’s hard to keep one dimensional players on the floor.

you don't get multifaceted late in the draft, either you get athletic/rsci projects or you get specialists that fit a role.

Where are we talking late in the draft? End of the first or end of the 2nd? Because if we’re talking end of the 1st, where several mocks have Nnaji, you can absolutely get multifaceted players they just often project to be lower ceiling prospects. Teams late in the first just sometimes want to swing for the fences.
I just think that outside of his physical profile and defensive impact, Nnaji‘s age is always brought up. So it’s expected people think he’s has more room to develop. But he really has very little feel on that side of the ball and it’s not something that’s easily developed. His FT shooting is awful and if a team can’t fix that, he will be even more of a liability on offense.

clyde21 · Post #2173 » by **clyde21** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:01 am

not a fan of cherry picked thresholds but fwiw re: DWH

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PerkinsFor3 · Post #2174 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:03 am

clyde21 wrote:not a fan of cherry picked thresholds but fwiw re: DWH

Trying to see what's here...?

SeattleJazzFan · Post #2175 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:45 pm

crows2 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Am I crazy for thinking Nick Smith Jr is going to fall to the latter half of the first round?

Falling from where? I would’ve thought the 20s is his range and it’d be a surprise if a team reaches for him in the teens.

seems like every mock i see has him higher than 15, some in the top 10.

Colbinii · Post #2176 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:58 pm

You know what sucks about this board? Everyone has their favorite prospects and they say one thing about a prospect in a thread they like [will improve, small sample, ect] in order to justify a player they like, and then in a thread about a player they are lower on they say the exact same thing but the opposite [they won't improve, small sample size, ect].

It's a joke. Some people here are clearly in a tier of their own in terms of posting, but 80% of people here should be completely ignored.

Colbinii · Post #2177 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:00 pm

PerkinsFor3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:not a fan of cherry picked thresholds but fwiw re: DWH

Trying to see what's here...?

These are the only players with those parameters.

GSWFan1994 · Post #2178 » by **GSWFan1994** » Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:46 pm

Givony just put out a new mock today... here's the link.

I don't know if that's the right place to post this... Duke, please relocate to another thread if you see fit, thanks.

Big J · Post #2179 » by **Big J** » Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:37 pm

Colbinii wrote:You know what sucks about this board? Everyone has their favorite prospects and they say one thing about a prospect in a thread they like [will improve, small sample, ect] in order to justify a player they like, and then in a thread about a player they are lower on they say the exact same thing but the opposite [they won't improve, small sample size, ect].

It's a joke. Some people here are clearly in a tier of their own in terms of posting, but 80% of people here should be completely ignored.

Agreed, but who here is in a tier of their own? You, and who else?

JRoy · Post #2180 » by **JRoy** » Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:48 pm

deepeeenn wrote:
HiDef wrote:Could say the same of Capela or RW3 no? Nnaji is pretty NBA ready as a shot blocker, offensive rebounding looks very good, great mobility.. surprised nobody wants to take a shot on him even with the feel issues as an 18/19 year old.. then again, if Lively can't even get into the top 10, suppose nobody cares about centers anymore... just going to bat for him.. big fan of his skillset, combines a lot of valuable tools..

I’m blanking on who RW3 is.
I don’t think Nnaji will fall or anything but he really needs to develop a better feel on offense. Capela has better touch than he does. Nnaji really lacks offensive feel or touch outside of lobs and stand still dunks. He rushes which hurts him too. From the video I’ve seen of him, he also really gets down on himself when he can’t finish a play. He’s a project for sure. As defensive center, with little offense to fall back on I think he could easily get played off the floor. I’m not rooting against any of these kids, as long as none of them are dicks.

Isn’t that Robert Williams?