2023 NBA Finals, The Last Stand: Heat @ Nuggets, 6/12 @ 8:30pm

[powerball1373]

For those of you wondering if Tyler might be rusty, this video of shootaround should make you rest easy

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Iono about you, but I seent a sick baseline drive and dish for an easy bucket that even stone-hands Bam/Zeller could catch and finish

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[Spacely]

How do we feel about Caleb Martin? You think he’s just on a slump right now? He did look a lot better in game 4. Hoping he brings it tonight and next season he develops into a great player.

[Spacely]

If Strus is scorless again I swear.. 16% shooting for a starting SG. If he shoot 40% we could be in at least 2-2.
It is what it is. We gonna have to find some better dependable shooters in the off season.
Just fight, do not let go and get blown out.

If he plays terrible again and he finds his way on this team next season I’m questioning this…what kind of dirt does he have on the front office or Spo?

[powerball1373]

How do we feel about Caleb Martin? You think he’s just on a slump right now? He did look a lot better in game 4. Hoping he brings it tonight and next season he develops into a great player.

I think he was sick and his twin Cody was playing the first few games. But on a serious note, I wouldn't expect him to develop into a 'great' player. I'd be happy with a consistent 12-15 pts off the bench.

[Flash4thewin]

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[Bishop45]

Preface this post by saying that I respect women, I love the art of the body and movement, and I respect this woman for the elegance she uses with her art. Ashe

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[htcoelho]

Burn the top hats and monocles!!!

[HeatingUp3]

How do we feel about Caleb Martin? You think he’s just on a slump right now? He did look a lot better in game 4. Hoping he brings it tonight and next season he develops into a great player.

His confidence is gone completely. Thats it.

[UncleKenny]

In for epic night. Either a new champ is crowned or another page in our story gets written.

Another epic Finals failure in the book of Spoelstra.
2 of 6 in NBA Finals, that’s hot garbage.


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Any other coach in the league with this team was golfing 2 months ago. Spolstra over-achieving with lack luster rosters year after year is some how a knock because he didn't overachieve.....enough?

Dial up a few years with Mark Jackson or someone of his ilk and you wont be spending any time complaining about failure in the finals.

[Shewasfly]

Yes bam hasn’t been perfect, he’s missing easy middys and bunnies and he’s turning over the ball, we get that. But he has by far been our best player in this series and it’s not even close. Bam is literally imposing his will and being aggressive because he wants to win BAD. We rarely see an aggresive bam at this altitude and it actually makes me smile because of how dedicated he is to getting a ring. Adding onto the fact that he is our best defender by far. So if he’s leading the team on offense and defense don’t you think he deserves some slack too? When have we seen bam try this hard on both ends?

I disagree that he’s been far and away the best player this series (but nobody, Jimmy included, has separated themselves and been good enough to argue against it so I can see your viewpoint). It’s just the standards are higher for Jimmy. Rightfully of course, he’s a much better player.

But when we get off the rails where were railing on our best player while protecting from criticism a player who has far less of a load, it should be okay to say something. If everyone was **** on Bam and letting Jimmy off the hook, I’d speak up then. Of course that’d never happen since Bam literally has paid fans to do whatever to push him. But still. It doesn’t sit right with me how the conversation is turning on Jimmy, especially questioning his heart and will. Any criticism I have for Bam is far less harsh than that, and the same for any other player on this team. It’s just we suddenly can’t critique him anymore, just everyone else.

So who has been the best Heat player in the series then if you disagree? Far less of a load? You realize bam has to play elite defense every night or we are cooked? It’s clear that Jimmy is either hurt or his head isn’t fully into the game, I get that; and there is nothing we can do about it. I’m not really giving too much flak to Jimmy because I understand the circumstances but like I said don’t discredit bam; because he’s been giving it his all. Actually though, bam did have an injury this playoffs too.

We have played poorly and disjointed the entire series. I don't think there has been a best player. But if you want so bad to say Bam has been our best player and giving his all in a series we've played our worst basketball in, go right ahead. Certainly doesn't hurt my long held opinion that he is nowhere near a first option or franchise cornerstone for a winning team.

And yes, far less of a load. FAR. As I said, we cannot even ask Bam to be a threat to drop 30 a night without cries from his fans. Jimmy has to do that while taking all the defensive attention, and be solid defensively too. I can't imagine what Jimmy would be doing on offense if he drew no defensive attention the way Bam does. But you think he has the same load or even near it as Jimmy? Lol this is what I'm saying. Its one thing to have less expectations of an inferior player and celebrate them when they are finally meeting their expectations. Its another thing to both have those lower expectations AND rail on the superior player with high expectations to prop them up over him. Tell Jimmy he only needs to score 18-20 a night and play elite defense and see where this team is.

And we are cooked without great play from several players on this team, including our undrafted guys. Did you forget it was Caleb who was the best player in the series against Boston? Jimmy the two series before that, but even then not without solid contributions from others (including Bam of course). Spo has the team playing above its head, and part of the problem is that we need that type of perfection to not be 'cooked' (I hate when yall get a hold of a slang word bc it gets overused so quickly smh) every single now. As a team we're coming down to earth at the worst possible time and it sucks, but no reason to question Jimmy's heart over it. And if you can, you certainly can't get mad at me for questioning Bam's skill (which is at least observable and verifiable).

[Shewasfly]

I didn’t see the last game (glad I didn’t) but still think the Jimmy criticism is too much. Dude put on a Superman cape for basically an entire month straight to get us to the middle of the ECF and now I think his legs are simply giving out. Every shot is short and the confidence is noticeably gone. I think the talk about him checking out mentally is so unfair. Obviously you’re not going to be out there talking **** if your body doesn’t feel right enough for you to back it up. I’m not happy that he can’t be Himmy right now either. But all I’m saying is, we should lay off of him. He’s not there physically and there has been enough talk about him being affected by something emotionally for me to leave him be considering we are nowhere near the finals without him. No matter how much y’all lower standards in order to lie and say Bam has been even near as impactful.

Also on Tyler, I’m almost positive whatever reason he’s being held out is not him and fully on the team/doctors. Say what you want about Tyler, but he’s not missing any opportunity to get some shots up unless there’s a reason. Might be his last season in a Heat jersey too, and I think he knows that. So doubt he wants this to be his exit.

Very good post to which i agree, but let me point out some things i have seen happening too many times here, The Jimmy talk I dont see it as being critic of him or much less diminishing what he did for us up to this point, its simply pointing out the lack of fire and emotion in this series ( for whatever reason it might be ) its obvious he is lacking the fire and explosiveness we saw at the beginning of the playoffs, i have not see a single post here saying Jimmy is a bum nad not our most important player in the team, actually totally the opposite i think everybody knows he is the heart and soul of this team. So i dont really get why some of you get kind of offended when somebody points out his subpar ( compared to the other series in the playoffs ) performance in this series.

I hear you and don't disagree with anything you said. If you look at my posts I have shown my disappointment in Jimmy the last few games as much as anybody. But my specific problem with the posts about Jimmy is that his will and heart is being put into question. I truly think its laughable to have watched him play this entire post season and believe Jimmy suddenly doesn't want to win the championship anymore while knocking at the damn door.

Have y'all thought how exhausting it is to get this close and then have to gather yourself mentally, emotionally, and physically to try and find a way to do it all over again the next season? With no guarantee that you'll even get the opportunity to be at the doorstep again? He wants it more than anyone, and its really sad to have Heat fans constantly suggesting that over and over after the run he's put together. Say he not good enough and he doesn't have the skill to be a #1 option, that he's not a superstar, etc. We can talk about that all day, and you might be surprised on which points I actually agree with and have said before. But to question his will is **** up.

I think its obvious that something is limiting Jimmy physically, and its effecting everything else (including that fire and of course explosiveness). I simply think saying he doesn't have the heart is much worse of a criticism than you can put on a pro player than even talking about their skill. Especially a Jimmy type. He's proven enough.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sometimes I think I’ve finally read the dumbest **** I’ll ever read in my life and then not much later something comes in to top it all, life is so full of surprises.

[contract]

If Strus is scorless again I swear.. 16% shooting for a starting SG. If he shoot 40% we could be in at least 2-2.
It is what it is. We gonna have to find some better dependable shooters in the off season.
Just fight, do not let go and get blown out.

No one lets go of the rope.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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How do we feel about Caleb Martin? You think he’s just on a slump right now? He did look a lot better in game 4. Hoping he brings it tonight and next season he develops into a great player.

i think sometimes Caleb is trying to hard and forcing things.

[powerball1373]

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[Bourne85]

I didn’t think we had much of a chance tonight, but now adding Herro back in all but shuts the door on this season. It’s no secret we have played much better without Herro trying to be the hero. It’s made way for the better shooter Drob. The only chance we have is if Spo finally wakes up, benches and DNPs Strus, starts Duncan, lets Herro and Highsmith come in for spot minutes. Either way imo the Nuggets are getting crowned tonight. Been one hell of a ride this season and I’m more interested in what Riley does this offseason. If we somehow can trade for Dame while keeping Jimmy and Bam and Drob then we have a fighters chance again, but not if this iteration of “Himmy” is the guy that shows up next year. We need the Jimmy that played vs the Bucs. If he’s gone for good then imo we should just move on already.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Lock up the shooters and you stop the key to the offense and the main thing our offense is built around. Play them close and physical and live with Jimmy and Bam spamming 2s. Malone figured this out early and Spo hasn’t been able ti adjust. That won’t be so easy next season with Dame. Stay tuned.

[unowen85]

Keys to the game:

Minimize turnovers.
No goofy plays.
Finish strong at the rim.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I didn’t think we had much of a chance tonight, but now adding Herro back in all but shuts the door on this season. It’s no secret we have played much better without Herro trying to be the hero. It’s made way for the better shooter Drob. The only chance we have is if Spo finally wakes up, benches and DNPs Strus, starts Duncan, lets Herro and Highsmith come in for spot minutes. Either way imo the Nuggets are getting crowned tonight. Been one hell of a ride this season and I’m more interested in what Riley does this offseason. If we somehow can trade for Dame while keeping Jimmy and Bam and Drob then we have a fighters chance again, but not if this iteration of “Himmy” is the guy that shows up next year. We need the Jimmy that played vs the Bucs. If he’s gone for good then imo we should just move on already.

There’s no hope regardless of whatever adjustments are made. That died when we choked both home games back to back in embarrassing fashion. Winning this series would require us to win 3 straight which also would mean winning 3 straight in Denver considering we took game 2 there before we **** the bed. This being against a team that has been far better the entire series; we’ve been playing catch up the entire series because they’re just a far better team. We were a massive run in game 2 away from being swept.

We more than likely lose tonight by double digits unless someone pulls a flawless game out of their ass which is unlikely.