2022-23 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5041 » by Clyde Frazier » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:24 am

very happy for jokic, murray and co. proved the doubters wrong and now there's nothing they can say. my only thought for next season is how do they keep bruce brown. he was huge for them to say the least.
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Post#5042 » by Peregrine01 » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:38 am

Refs completely lost control of that game. Jokic got bear wrestled by the whole Heat team in the second half and I’m not sure he went to the line once. Then Butler kicks Gordon in the balls and it’s a foul on Gordon? NBA has gotta be careful about where they go with the officiating and flopping cause it just keeps getting worse.

Supper happy for Jokic and the Nuggets though.
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Post#5043 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:40 am

Jokic probably over peak Curry for me on offense, up there in the conversation with best offensive seasons ever for sure. Think I’d have him top 3-4 personally on offense. If we get a Giannis vs Jokic finals that would be wild man

Feel bad for Jimmy and the heat, want him/them to win one but he ain’t a laker. Maybe in 3 years when dame goes there lol

This Nuggets team is really good but I don’t know if I’d call them the start of a dynasty especially if they lose brown, I think the nba is gonna be really interesting next year in terms of the top few if teams can stay healthy.

Miami run has to be over right? This was a Cinderella run but I don’t think they’re a top 5 team in the league unless Jimmy really was just hobbled by the ankle and the team can go back to being marksmen
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Post#5044 » by tone wone » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:03 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:This Nuggets team is really good but I don’t know if I’d call them the start of a dynasty especially if they lose brown, I think the nba is gonna be really interesting next year in terms of the top few if teams can stay healthy.

On one hand it seems obvious were in the middle of late 70s era level of parity. Where more than ever it seems like things "fall in place" for teams to go on a run. And this year was Denver's turn. Like '22 GSW, '21 MIL, '20 LAL & '19 TOR. Pretty strong regular season teams who managed to win 4 rounds. I don't necessarily think it signals something greater than that.

On the other hand they do have 2 things that the vast majority of the league lacks. 1. A superstar who plays 70gms in the regular season and holds up physical in the playoffs. 2. A team that fully understands exactly who they are and knows fully how to play together.
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Post#5045 » by Ambrose » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:04 am

Really want to highlight Jokic's D since no one is talking about. He was flying around everywhere, unreal effort, and did a great job contesting at the rim. He was huge on that end tonight.
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Post#5046 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:13 am

tone wone wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:This Nuggets team is really good but I don’t know if I’d call them the start of a dynasty especially if they lose brown, I think the nba is gonna be really interesting next year in terms of the top few if teams can stay healthy.

On one hand it seems obvious were in the middle of late 70s era level of parity. Where more than ever it seems like things "fall in place" for teams to go on a run. And this year was Denver's turn. Like '22 GSW, '21 MIL, '20 LAL & '19 TOR. Pretty strong regular season teams who managed to win 4 rounds. I don't necessarily think it signals something greater than that.

On the other hand they do have 2 things that the vast majority of the league lacks. 1. A superstar who plays 70gms in the regular season and holds up physical in the playoffs. 2. A team that fully understands exactly who they are and knows fully how to play together.



Assuming everyone’s healthy, I think there’s probably a clear top tier

Celtics/bucks/Nuggets/Lakers

Bucks had injury issues, Celtics obviously choked again (I think they beat Denver tbh, I mean Miami beat them through crazy hot shooting and that completely faded away in these finals), and both Lakers guys were hurt

The Nuggets are certainly the healthiest team and don’t have the same mental questions the Celtics do, gun to my head id take a healthy bucks team probably though

Lowkey would take a healthy Lakers team over everyone tbh, just in the sense that they were a WCF with both their guys hurt and probably should have gone to 6 if u run that series back, but there’s like a 20% chance they actually stay healthy

This Nuggets team is nasty once their playoff rotation hits. Has the best player in the world, jamal suddenly becomes a top ten player when the postseason hits, and everyone else is either elite 3 and D or elite cutter and D lol

Hustle guy in Braun who shined, and idk Jeff green too I guess

I think I view peak Jokic about similar to where I have peak Giannis (I rank peaks a bit weirdly though, and it’s changed recently, more absolute sense), both probably behind where I think I’d put Hakeem, but def above like KG and Steph I think
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Post#5047 » by Heej » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:33 am

Top 10 arguable top 5 run we just witnessed
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Post#5048 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:50 am

The Nuggets aren't the start of a dynasty but they are so much better than the Lakers even now, not counting the age and injuries that are going to continue to pile up. They aren't in the tier of the Nuggets, and certainly not better, lmao.
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Post#5049 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:56 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:The Nuggets aren't the start of a dynasty but they are so much better than the Lakers even now, not counting the age and injuries that are going to continue to pile up. They aren't in the tier of the Nuggets, and certainly not better, lmao.


Yeah typically when ur top two players are hurt you ain’t gonna be a contender lol

The issue is they always get hurt which is what I said lol
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Post#5050 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:58 am

Everybody is hurt when they start losing. We basically haven't had a legit champ since I joined RealGM because someone's foot or ankle is always hurt. They got swept, and they'll be a year older and a year more fragile. Color me uninspired.
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Post#5051 » by Peregrine01 » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:03 am

“When healthy”…I hate that qualifier.
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Post#5052 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:04 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Everybody is hurt when they start losing. We basically haven't had a legit champ since I joined RealGM because someone's foot or ankle is always hurt. They got swept, and they'll be a year older and a year more fragile. Color me uninspired.


Bro doesnt believe in torn tendons and bone Spurs, everyone been talking about bron being hurt since round one be fr lol

3/4 games were one possession games at the end that got into personal take foul situations, we played them better than the heat did lol, main issue was we don’t have someone to guard jamal whatsoever
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Post#5053 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:05 am

Peregrine01 wrote:“When healthy”…I hate that qualifier.


I literally said they won’t be healthy lol
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Post#5054 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:06 am

What was Davis' injury? The non-concussion wheel chair thing? The Lakers won 0 games and they're better lmao.
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Post#5055 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:11 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:What was Davis' injury? The non-concussion wheel chair thing? The Lakers won 0 games and they're better lmao.


Edit: I originally made a long post but I don’t wanna take away from the denver convo, but it was the mid foot injury, bro became way more finesse than force after that, shows up in his post data and he couldn’t create his own shot. I also know stuff about it specifically so I can confidently say he was hurt lol

I’m not calling Denver’s championship fake I’m just saying I think a hypothetical healthy Lakers challenge them a lot more this year, because the matchup changes a lot then, but it is what it is.

Injuries for bron and AD are the expectation, not the exception, like Embiid in the playoffs. Saying when they are healthy is a meaningless statement because they aren’t usually, but it doesn’t make it invalid lol


Championships aren’t fake because of injuries because that’s a part of the game and teams get credit for being elite and staying healthy, (unless cp3 won with the Suns in 2021 cuz that was crazy) but you can acknowledge them
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Post#5056 » by 70sFan » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:54 am

Huge congratulations to Jokic, he's been nothing short of incredible in the finals and throughout the whole year. He gave it all on both ends of the floor and to be honest, it's the first peak in a long time that can challenge my top 10.

About game 5 - I really wanted the Heat to make it interesting, but as the game went on, I became happy to see them lose. The refs allowed them to be extremely, extremely physical (1990s basketball is nothing compared to that) and they got a lot of soft fouls on the other end. I really appreciate how Jokic stayed calm throughout the game, despite being attacked like few players in NBA history.

Also, with all my sympathy to Butler (one of my favorite players in the league), I hope that this series will end Kobe/Wade comparisons or top 20 peaks conversations. He was extremely bad in the finals and it's clear that he struggles against the size (which is why defending him with Jrue at all costs was stupid from the Bucks).

Anyway, it will be a long postseason with a lot of hot takes, but for now I am happy to see generational bigman dominating the league for the first time since peak Duncan.
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Post#5057 » by GSP » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:28 am

Just realized Deandre Jordan was the first of Lob City to get a ring and even got decent finals minutes in closeout lmfaooooooooo
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Post#5058 » by GSP » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:29 am

Peregrine01 wrote:Refs completely lost control of that game. Jokic got bear wrestled by the whole Heat team in the second half and I’m not sure he went to the line once. Then Butler kicks Gordon in the balls and it’s a foul on Gordon? NBA has gotta be careful about where they go with the officiating and flopping cause it just keeps getting worse.

Supper happy for Jokic and the Nuggets though.


Cant remember a more blatant attempt to extend a series. That was 06 finals level. I cant believe that Jimmy 3 foul stood. Anyone who thinks there isnt a level of corruption still involved postDonaghy is delusional or gullible af
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Post#5059 » by Jaivl » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:48 am

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Peregrine01 wrote:Refs completely lost control of that game. Jokic got bear wrestled by the whole Heat team in the second half and I’m not sure he went to the line once. Then Butler kicks Gordon in the balls and it’s a foul on Gordon? NBA has gotta be careful about where they go with the officiating and flopping cause it just keeps getting worse.

Supper happy for Jokic and the Nuggets though.


Cant remember a more blatant attempt to extend a series.

Eh, G6 on Miami just happened a couple of weeks ago.
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Post#5060 » by Statlanta » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:33 am

I’m just happy they can remove one more patch from the jerseys with the Bill Russell season over.
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