How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo?

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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#61 » by PistolPeteJR » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:33 pm

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homecourtloss wrote:On this player comparison board, there are usually two camps “one side that looks at data, an actual hard evidence, and the other side that has narratives in their mind and sticks with them, and does not bother to look at any of the data. The poster you’re replying to fit into the ladder camp, and nothing will change these posters mines, even when presented with numbers and tracking data.


First of all maybe you should work on forming basic english sentences before you attempt to make baseless accusations and not even list a single reason or argument of your own. Your garbage empty takes are a waste of everyone's time.

I've seen the stats. There is no advanced stat that tells you who is better. Especially on defense. According to DBPM, Jokic is the best defender in the league so we can all see how useless that stat is. Any metric based on box scores evaluating defense is worth less than used toilet paper. There are certain other advanced stats that do serve some purpose, but each only tells a small part of the story. You need to see them all, and on top of it, actually watch the games with a critical eye to get the full story. I've done this. I've been watching NBA since before most people on this forum was born.


Given you've been given a bunch of numbers in this thread, can you please elaborate on how the numbers don't tell the story being argued?
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#62 » by PistolPeteJR » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:39 pm

I mean this literally and I'm not trying to be funny or anything:

It's really sad how relativism has taken over and continues to spread. What's true for you is true for you and what's true for me is true for me is no different than putting blinders on a horse who only sees the road and deduces that there is nothing else but what he sees in front of him, because that's his reality, his truth, what he sees.

If every person were to humble themselves and openly consider that they don't have all the answers, we'd be in a much better spot. Pliability is so, so important.
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#63 » by kendogg » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:46 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:Given you've been given a bunch of numbers in this thread, can you please elaborate on how the numbers don't tell the story being argued?


I already did that. Go back and read my prior posts.
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#64 » by Colbinii » Mon Jun 5, 2023 7:14 pm

Let's work on not attacking someone's Grammar when having discussions on an NBA Forum.

1) Not everyone speaks English as a 1st language or fluently. The fact those people are willing to put themselves out there on an english-only board shows a lot about how interested in basketball people are.

2) Not everyone is of the same education level. Many here don't have a college education. Some likely never graduated high school but still love basketball and participate in discussions.
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#65 » by AEnigma » Mon Jun 5, 2023 7:59 pm

Colbinii wrote:Let's work on not attacking someone's Grammar when having discussions on an NBA Forum.

1) Not everyone speaks English as a 1st language or fluently. The fact those people are willing to put themselves out there on an english-only board shows a lot about how interested in basketball people are.

2) Not everyone is of the same education level. Many here don't have a college education. Some likely never graduated high school but still love basketball and participate in discussions.

Even past it being completely unproductive, and even past the unintentional irony of trying to insult someone by suggesting that a “mind/mine” typo is too difficult to understand…
His help defense is heavy reliant on the Warriors defensive scheme.

… pedantry on that scale is bound to backfire unless you happen to be taking the time to carefully quadruple-check every post you make before hitting submit. :noway:
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#66 » by AdagioPace » Mon Jun 5, 2023 8:17 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:I mean this literally and I'm not trying to be funny or anything:

It's really sad how relativism has taken over and continues to spread. What's true for you is true for you and what's true for me is true for me is no different than putting blinders on a horse who only sees the road and deduces that there is nothing else but what he sees in front of him, because that's his reality, his truth, what he sees.

If every person were to humble themselves and openly consider that they don't have all the answers, we'd be in a much better spot. Pliability is so, so important.


we're scared of things we don't understand.I'm buffled by AI because I don't have the appropriate education to understand, somebody else by stats counterintuitively showing that Draymond can be a menace as a rim protector despite being a midget :) . :dontknow: When we meet something that scares us, some people slow down and try to understand, other people get defensive in a relativistic and reactionary way because their prejudices are in danger.
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#67 » by PistolPeteJR » Mon Jun 5, 2023 8:36 pm

AdagioPace wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:I mean this literally and I'm not trying to be funny or anything:

It's really sad how relativism has taken over and continues to spread. What's true for you is true for you and what's true for me is true for me is no different than putting blinders on a horse who only sees the road and deduces that there is nothing else but what he sees in front of him, because that's his reality, his truth, what he sees.

If every person were to humble themselves and openly consider that they don't have all the answers, we'd be in a much better spot. Pliability is so, so important.


we're scared of things we don't understand.I'm buffled by AI because I don't have the appropriate education to understand, somebody else by stats counterintuitively showing that Draymond can be a menace as a rim protector despite being a midget :) . :dontknow: When we meet something that scares us, some people slow down and try to understand, other people get defensive in a relativistic and reactionary way because their prejudices are in danger.
The key is always to be vulnerable to new things. (....says the hippie living in me.....)


I think there's definitely two extremes: too much vulnerability and open-mindedness is a bad thing too. Some caution is important and necessary. Wisdom is so key.
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#68 » by TheGOATRises007 » Mon Jun 5, 2023 8:41 pm

2015-2019 and 2022.

I think Draymond is a tier above as a player.
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#69 » by GSP » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:18 am

Any thoughts after his finals performance? Heats offense was bad but it had to be if Bam was your best offensive player in a series.
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#70 » by SpreeS » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:02 am

GSP wrote:Any thoughts after his finals performance? Heats offense was bad but it had to be if Bam was your best offensive player in a series.


I woudn't say he was the best. Shooting .450 from 0-9ft range is really bad for big. To have 20 fga per game for player like Bam in the Finals isn't the best idea. I like this guy and want him on my GSW, but he must be 3rd option on offence for championship team like Green/H.Grant/Bosh/Love/Siakam/Odom/R.Wallace
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Re: How many Draymond seasons over peak Bam Adebayo? 

Post#71 » by 70sFan » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:57 am

GSP wrote:Any thoughts after his finals performance? Heats offense was bad but it had to be if Bam was your best offensive player in a series.

I think he was the best, but him being a volume scorer was forced by the Nuggets defense and as much as I admire his effort, he wasn't capable of doing that unfortunately.

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