Dame names potential trade destinations

[tester551]

@JSun947 - Do you realize how valuable the PHX picks are? They are about to rebuild in 2 years. DAL might not implode this offseason but do you really think they will be competitive in 2029?

One benefit to the picks Brooklyn has is that Portland in theory could get the 'best of' in a few of the years.
IE - Best of the Phoenix, Philly, or Brooklyn/Houston picks in '27 or the best of Phoenix, Dallas, or Brooklyn in '29

It definitely increases the potential value of these future picks.

[Jsun947]

I think only a few players ever would be able to get this deal for them over the last 30 years. Michael Jordan before 1992, LeBron before 2010, Kobe before 2000, and Duncan before 2001.

9 first round picks will never happen. You have to also remember the Stepien Rule.

Realistically if you remove Claxton and 5-6 of those picks that will likely be the deal.

The nets can trade all these picks without violating the Stephen rule.

Picks in the 20s are not particularly valuable. For example you wouldn’t trade Dame now for expirings and 4 picks in this year in the 20s, and this is a good draft.

It would cost probably 2-3 1st just to dump Simmons salary, let alone get a player who’s consistently all NBA in the deal. None of the picks the Nets own have significant high end upside either. It’s not like Brooklyn has unprotected picks from teams who are probable to end up in the bottom 8 of the league any of those seasons. The nets don’t even have any good young players to send us back in a Dame deal.

@JSun947 - Do you realize how valuable the PHX picks are? They are about to rebuild in 2 years. DAL might not implode this offseason but do you really think they will be competitive in 2029?

That is what is going on here. They are figuring out which picks can be dealt. I would guess POR would get 2 of the PHX picks and a pick swap with the Nets about 5 years out. POR wants to rebuild and then hit on some major players throughout the next 5-6 years in the draft. I feel like they might want PHX's picks in 2027 or 2029. They might want that PHI pick the Nets own too.

The Nets won't deal Simmons if they need to trade more than one 1st with him. It is not how their front office works.

I’d like Phoenix’s picks in 27 & 29 too but they have an owner that will spend, in a city people like to play in, they’ll be competitive for at least the next 3-4 years, and they have no incentives to tank. This isn’t a team that you historically can bet on to be a total **** show for decades like the Wizards, Hornets, Kings etc. Same can be said for Dallas with Luka.

As a thought exercise what over/under lime do you think Vegas would project a 2027 & 2029 Sun’s lottery pick to be? I’d guess around middle of the league. I’m not into trading Dame for a package centered around the 15th picks 4 & 6 years from now

[JKiddy]

I think the Suns in 2027 and 2029 will be bottom of the league due to the new CBA constraints.

Think this through. KD will be retired by 2029, will be a shell of himself by 2027 (if he is not retired or even on the Suns). CP3 will be retired for sure. Booker might have been traded by then. Ayton won't be there. Who is there? YOU TELL ME! They will have to tank and restock. Those picks will be lottery. Will they be #1? Maybe. But, the odds are more likely 3-10 probably. Those are likely 2 top 10 picks.

[Jsun947]

I think the Suns in 2027 and 2029 will be bottom of the league due to the new CBA constraints.

Think this through. KD will be retired by 2029, will be a shell of himself by 2027 (if he is not retired or even on the Suns). CP3 will be retired for sure. Booker might have been traded by then. Ayton won't be there. Who is there? YOU TELL ME! They will have to tank and restock. Those picks will be lottery. Will they be #1? Maybe. But, the odds are more likely 3-10 probably. Those are likely 2 top 10 picks.

You don’t know that though and you’re getting nothing back now who’s even guaranteed to be a rotation player on your current team, which would also be quite **** terrible.

Name me the last time a player has been as good as Dame, on and off the court, under contract long term, coming off the best statistical season of his career that was traded without even getting back a starter or a high pick in the current draft. I’ll wait….

[JKiddy]

Do you think Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, DFS, and Cam Thomas are not starters? If so, have you been watching them at all these past few seasons?

Dinwiddie and Harris are expirings. Both have been starters most of their careers. Dinwiddie can start on most NBA teams without an issue.

Cam Thomas can start on the majority of teams today and is the young stud you would get.

DFS is startable on pretty much every NBA team.

[JKiddy]

And the picks POR would be receiving would be some of the most valuable available.

[Village Idiot]

I would still trade Anfernee Simons for Dinwiddie and DFS. Harris is washed and one dimensional. Cam Thomas is a shameless gunner.

Brooklyn simply isn't able to put together a compelling package for Dame without trading the very players they would need to retain to build a competitive team.

[The Sebastian Express]

Do you think Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, DFS, and Cam Thomas are not starters? If so, have you been watching them at all these past few seasons?

Dinwiddie and Harris are expirings. Both have been starters most of their careers. Dinwiddie can start on most NBA teams without an issue.

Cam Thomas can start on the majority of teams today and is the young stud you would get.

DFS is startable on pretty much every NBA team.

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Anyone can be a starter if your team is bad enough!

[DusterBuster]

Do you think Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, DFS, and Cam Thomas are not starters? If so, have you been watching them at all these past few seasons?

Dinwiddie and Harris are expirings. Both have been starters most of their careers. Dinwiddie can start on most NBA teams without an issue.

Cam Thomas can start on the majority of teams today and is the young stud you would get.

DFS is startable on pretty much every NBA team.

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

[Village Idiot]

Do you think Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, DFS, and Cam Thomas are not starters? If so, have you been watching them at all these past few seasons?

Dinwiddie and Harris are expirings. Both have been starters most of their careers. Dinwiddie can start on most NBA teams without an issue.

Cam Thomas can start on the majority of teams today and is the young stud you would get.

DFS is startable on pretty much every NBA team.

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

I think he/she has a misguided idea that talking down Dame's value while talking up the value of the Nets lesser players will somehow manifest a reality where the chasm in value is magically bridged and Brooklyn gets Lillard for scraps and pocket lint

[JKiddy]

Do you think Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, DFS, and Cam Thomas are not starters? If so, have you been watching them at all these past few seasons?

Dinwiddie and Harris are expirings. Both have been starters most of their careers. Dinwiddie can start on most NBA teams without an issue.

Cam Thomas can start on the majority of teams today and is the young stud you would get.

DFS is startable on pretty much every NBA team.

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

This is not true at all.

I am realistic here.

This trade, if it occurs, would not be for solely talent. It would be to kickstart the rebuild in POR no matter if Dame is dealt to Miami or BK or even any other team. It will be all about the picks, expiring contracts, and likely one player who is a young solid player to use in the starting lineup as you grow.

JV is a coach who does not like to work with young players. Never has, likely never will. He waits until Year 3 to give them playing time. So the Cam Thomas stuff at this point is irrelevant. He is an insanely gifted scorer. I am sure he is working on his passing and D this off season so he can be more of what any team needs all around. But, at the end of the day EVERY NBA TEAM needs a BUCKET.

I think the Nets Sixers or Heat end up getting Freddy V, Dame (if traded), and then it'll be interesting what happens if Harden leaves Philly and they don't make a move.

I think the Nets as constructed are a playoff/play-in team unless they make some roster changes (positional shakeup and adding one star to be the 1a to Bridges' 1b).

I honestly feel for POR fans. I have been through similar circumstances. No matter what happens you are my West Coast squad. I am pulling for you to make the Finals.

[DusterBuster]

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

This is not true at all.

I am realistic here.

[The Sebastian Express]

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

This is not true at all.

I am realistic here.

This trade, if it occurs, would not be for solely talent. It would be to kickstart the rebuild in POR no matter if Dame is dealt to Miami or BK or even any other team. It will be all about the picks, expiring contracts, and likely one player who is a young solid player to use in the starting lineup as you grow.

JV is a coach who does not like to work with young players. Never has, likely never will. He waits until Year 3 to give them playing time. So the Cam Thomas stuff at this point is irrelevant. He is an insanely gifted scorer. I am sure he is working on his passing and D this off season so he can be more of what any team needs all around. But, at the end of the day EVERY NBA TEAM needs a BUCKET.

I think the Nets Sixers or Heat end up getting Freddy V, Dame (if traded), and then it'll be interesting what happens if Harden leaves Philly and they don't make a move.

I think the Nets as constructed are a playoff/play-in team unless they make some roster changes (positional shakeup and adding one star to be the 1a to Bridges' 1b).

I honestly feel for POR fans. I have been through similar circumstances. No matter what happens you are my West Coast squad. I am pulling for you to make the Finals.

I am afraid the line at the end does not erase a Nets fan coming to the POrtland board to tell us how wrong we are about our own players, how wrong we are about your players, and how we must accept your middling offer and that's how it is going to be in reality as well.

Sadly, still does not make young Cam Thomas a stud.

[JRoy]

Do you think Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, DFS, and Cam Thomas are not starters? If so, have you been watching them at all these past few seasons?

Dinwiddie and Harris are expirings. Both have been starters most of their careers. Dinwiddie can start on most NBA teams without an issue.

Cam Thomas can start on the majority of teams today and is the young stud you would get.

DFS is startable on pretty much every NBA team.

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

That seems a bit harsh. I don’t like much on BKN in a Lillard trade besides Simmons (I know I know) and FRP. Maybe he likes Thomas too much?

[DusterBuster]

Your young stud scored forty three games in a row and was buried on the bench when the trade pieces got there.

The Nets were swept and held under 90 points twice and under a 100 points three times. And this young stud of yours, on a team which was desperately in need of putting some points on the board, played fifteen minutes.

The entire series. Not a game. The series.

No, he isn't a young stud. He's also a 6'3 shooting guard, which guess what Portland doesn't need even if trading Dame, who averaged 1.4 assists to 1.1 turnovers a game.

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

That seems a bit harsh. I don’t like much on BKN in a Lillard trade besides Simmons (I know I know) and FRP. Maybe he likes Thomas too much?

I don't feel its harsh because we've seen this type of poster before. Hell... I've BEEN this type of poster before trying to sell other teams fans on C-level young talent for why that's actually good return for their star.

Liking Cam Thomas is fine, but it doesn't change the fact he's a pretty mid-level prospect that got hot offensively than got buried on the bench because he played zero defense and was woefully undersized at his position.

[JRoy]

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

That seems a bit harsh. I don’t like much on BKN in a Lillard trade besides Simmons (I know I know) and FRP. Maybe he likes Thomas too much?

I don't feel its harsh because we've seen this type of poster before. Hell... I've BEEN this type of poster before trying to sell other teams fans on C-level young talent for why that's actually good return for their star.

Liking Cam Thomas is fine, but it doesn't change the fact he's a pretty mid-level prospect that got hot offensively than got buried on the bench because he played zero defense and was woefully undersized at his position.

Promising but perpetually injured bigs and tiny one way guards are archetypes we should all be ready to leave behind us.

[Norm2953]

It'll be interesting if the drafting of Scoot ultimately forces Portland to retool around SS/Scoot for
I doubt Dame at this point of his career, would be happy playing off guard to Scoot for Scoot doesn't
have the jump shot to play off guard to Dame.

If there is a Dame trade, it needs to be heavy in picks/swaps.

If its DFS/Dinwiddie from Brooklyn for salary purposes, Portland could make it work for those guys
with Scoot or Miller would provide stability to a young team. Portland would face a retool for they
would need to rebuild the team around the strengths of Sharpe/Scoot.

[JKiddy]

JKiddy is one of those classic posters who thinks every player 1-15 on his team is current or future All NBAers, but every other teams players are scrubs that you should be considered lucky to be getting offered their 8th and 9th best players.

That seems a bit harsh. I don’t like much on BKN in a Lillard trade besides Simmons (I know I know) and FRP. Maybe he likes Thomas too much?

I don't feel its harsh because we've seen this type of poster before. Hell... I've BEEN this type of poster before trying to sell other teams fans on C-level young talent for why that's actually good return for their star.

Liking Cam Thomas is fine, but it doesn't change the fact he's a pretty mid-level prospect that got hot offensively than got buried on the bench because he played zero defense and was woefully undersized at his position.

Duster - I never made any personal attacks on you. In all honesty, I prefer we just make other deals and not deal for Dame unless it's without giving most of our future pick chest. I would rather save them for Luka in a season or 2.

Both of our teams are not unbelievably great. The Nets have no need to tank because we own every other teams picks but ours. Enjoy the summer my man!

[DusterBuster]

That seems a bit harsh. I don’t like much on BKN in a Lillard trade besides Simmons (I know I know) and FRP. Maybe he likes Thomas too much?

I don't feel its harsh because we've seen this type of poster before. Hell... I've BEEN this type of poster before trying to sell other teams fans on C-level young talent for why that's actually good return for their star.

Liking Cam Thomas is fine, but it doesn't change the fact he's a pretty mid-level prospect that got hot offensively than got buried on the bench because he played zero defense and was woefully undersized at his position.

Duster - I never made any personal attacks on you. In all honesty, I prefer we just make other deals and not deal for Dame unless it's without giving most of our future pick chest. I would rather save them for Luka in a season or 2.

Both of our teams are not unbelievably great. The Nets have no need to tank because we own every other teams picks but ours. Enjoy the summer my man!

Calling you out for your painfully obvious ulterior motives for posting here is not the same as personally attacks.

I get it, we all get it, you only want Dame if you can get him for pennies on the dollar.