Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Tatum
Luka
Curry
Booker
Dame
Butler
SGA
Zion/Kawhi would be on if I could count on their health.
Edwards the threat from the younger generation to take a big leap.
Personally, hoping for a bounce back from Gobert, but doesn't deserve a spot after last season.
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eminence wrote:NBA4Lyfe wrote:SK21209 wrote:If I’m raking guys I don’t really factor in availability, I just think who is the best at basketball if they’re all healthy:
1. Jokic
2. Curry
3. Giannis
4. Embiid
5. Kawhi
6. Luka
7. LeBron
8. Durant
9. Butler
10. Tatum
Lebron has become so overrated in recent years its crazy. Dude is gonna be in his 40's and people on this site will be claiming he is a top 10 player. LeBron's regular season raptor score was of a replcement level player
It wasn't though? He was 27th in their rate metric, and 32nd when accounting for minutes. Not deserving of a #7 placement by that measure, but certainly not close to replacement level either.
James harden was better than lebron this year and nobody has him in their top 10
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NBA4Lyfe wrote:eminence wrote:NBA4Lyfe wrote:Lebron has become so overrated in recent years its crazy. Dude is gonna be in his 40's and people on this site will be claiming he is a top 10 player. LeBron's regular season raptor score was of a replcement level player
It wasn't though? He was 27th in their rate metric, and 32nd when accounting for minutes. Not deserving of a #7 placement by that measure, but certainly not close to replacement level either.
James harden was better than lebron this year and nobody has him in their top 10
Nobody has him because nobody else has a love affair with Harden the way you do.

Among stars, Lebron was 10th in EPM, 10th in LEBRON, 7th in DPM, and 10th in RAPM — but of course you use RAPTOR, a substantially worse metric, because that is the one that gives you an excuse to dismiss him. May as well be carping about his WS/48.

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AEnigma wrote:NBA4Lyfe wrote:eminence wrote:It wasn't though? He was 27th in their rate metric, and 32nd when accounting for minutes. Not deserving of a #7 placement by that measure, but certainly not close to replacement level either.
James harden was better than lebron this year and nobody has him in their top 10
Nobody has him because he nobody else hates Lebron enough to favour Harden.
Among stars, Lebron was 10th in EPM, 10th in LEBRON, 7th in DPM, and 10th in RAPM — but of course you use RAPTOR, a substantially worse metric, because that is the one that gives you an excuse to dismiss him. May as well be carping about his WS/48.
lol at using rpm, that metric has been trash for the past 4 years
thats the problem with the nba, its all about voting for players who are buddy buddy with voters lol. Stephen curry and lebron james season this year didnt even meet the requirements to qualify for any awards but because the league hates harden so much they put curry in there anyways. Harden should have made all nba in 2016 and the last 3 years but because as kendrick perkins says that their is bias with voters when it comes to voting for guys who look like harden over their much preferred stephen curry than harden becomes the fall guy.
Basketball reference has james harden as the best player from the 2009 draft class not curry
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Get back to me when Jokic and his 3 SRS 53 win team beat a better quality of playoff teams. He never had to face his weakness; the dominant high pick & roll team.
I would probably have him like 20th all-time, so I don't think I'm unduly harsh on him. The reality though is that people shouldn't let this year wipe away the past so quickly. Jokic does still have a big weakness. His own front office tanked games twice in past years because they were so terrified of him matching up with Harden. Let's see what happens next year and come back.
I would probably have him like 20th all-time, so I don't think I'm unduly harsh on him. The reality though is that people shouldn't let this year wipe away the past so quickly. Jokic does still have a big weakness. His own front office tanked games twice in past years because they were so terrified of him matching up with Harden. Let's see what happens next year and come back.
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eminence wrote:NBA4Lyfe wrote:SK21209 wrote:If I’m raking guys I don’t really factor in availability, I just think who is the best at basketball if they’re all healthy:
1. Jokic
2. Curry
3. Giannis
4. Embiid
5. Kawhi
6. Luka
7. LeBron
8. Durant
9. Butler
10. Tatum
Lebron has become so overrated in recent years its crazy. Dude is gonna be in his 40's and people on this site will be claiming he is a top 10 player. LeBron's regular season raptor score was of a replcement level player
It wasn't though? He was 27th in their rate metric, and 32nd when accounting for minutes. Not deserving of a #7 placement by that measure, but certainly not close to replacement level either.
Eminence! How dare you catch someone in a lie and then call him out. JK, nice job.