2nd best team in 2023

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Which was the 2nd best team in 2023?

Heat
1
4%
Suns
3
13%
Lakers
9
38%
Other
11
46%
 
Total votes: 24

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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#21 » by eminence » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:11 am

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OhayoKD wrote:"Relatively healthy" is a pretty odd caveat for the suns given they were playing two 35+ year olds more minutes than nearly anyone.

The Lakers best two players were carrying-surgery demanding injuries. The Clippers were without their 2 best players for most of their matchup. The Suns did win the most games vs Denver, but they were also outscored by a higher margin than any other team(suns lost by 8.9 points, min lost by 8.8 points, miami lost by 8.2 points, Lakers by 6 points). Possible that's closer if Chris-Paul is there, but Minesotta and Miami had more significant absences and the Lakers best offensive and defensive players were playing on a typical season-ender and something you're supposed to get surgery for respectively


KD is 'only' 34.

But anywho, it was comparing the Suns to the 2nd series Suns where CP3 isn't there at all. I don't think Minnesota/Miami's missing dudes were any more important than CP3. Lakers certainly could win it.


As Ohayo alluded to, I also personally think that two compromised superstars (of course James more-so than Davis) is eating at added value more than 4.25 games of no CP3


I would agree?

I'm treating the injuries as they happened. Eg - CP3 is 'healthy' for the first round and out starting in the second. Kawhi gets injured in the first round. LeBron is dinged up.
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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#22 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:11 am

OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
eminence wrote:
KD is 'only' 34.

But anywho, it was comparing the Suns to the 2nd series Suns where CP3 isn't there at all. I don't think Minnesota/Miami's missing dudes were any more important than CP3. Lakers certainly could win it.


I don’t know if I agree with this to be honest, Miami had a big issue in the halfcourt with Jimmy having no lift and no herro, the wolves certainly aren’t better even if they are healthy but I’d definately say mcdaniels over cp3 at this point

In any case I don’t think we take out injuries here lol, if we did Clippers wipe everyone

Doubt


Clippers?


Mcdaniels is like one of the best on ball defenders in the nba lol and he can shoot
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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#23 » by rk2023 » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:12 am

eminence wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
eminence wrote:
KD is 'only' 34.

But anywho, it was comparing the Suns to the 2nd series Suns where CP3 isn't there at all. I don't think Minnesota/Miami's missing dudes were any more important than CP3. Lakers certainly could win it.


As Ohayo alluded to, I also personally think that two compromised superstars (of course James more-so than Davis) is eating at added value more than 4.25 games of no CP3


I would agree?

I'm treating the injuries as they happened. Eg - CP3 is 'healthy' for the first round and out starting in the second. Kawhi get injured in the first round. LeBron is dinged up.


Ah, right. Thanks for clarification. The homer in me (with these nuances considered) would take LAL in 6, but could certainly see arguments in PHX favor on paper / in theory.
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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#24 » by eminence » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:14 am

rk2023 wrote:
eminence wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
As Ohayo alluded to, I also personally think that two compromised superstars (of course James more-so than Davis) is eating at added value more than 4.25 games of no CP3


I would agree?

I'm treating the injuries as they happened. Eg - CP3 is 'healthy' for the first round and out starting in the second. Kawhi get injured in the first round. LeBron is dinged up.


Ah, right. Thanks for clarification. The homer in me (with these nuances considered) would take LAL in 6, but could certainly see arguments in PHX favor on paper / in theory.


Yeah, it was my toughest decision. LA in 6 seems perfectly reasonable.
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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#25 » by OhayoKD » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:15 am

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OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
I don’t know if I agree with this to be honest, Miami had a big issue in the halfcourt with Jimmy having no lift and no herro, the wolves certainly aren’t better even if they are healthy but I’d definately say mcdaniels over cp3 at this point

In any case I don’t think we take out injuries here lol, if we did Clippers wipe everyone

Doubt


Clippers?


Mcdaniels is like one of the best on ball defenders in the nba lol and he can shoot

Clippers, yeah. They have never done much of anything healthy or otherwise besides posting a strong srs during the 2020 regular season.

Agree on McDaniels
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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#26 » by MyUniBroDavis » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:18 am

OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:Doubt


Clippers?


Mcdaniels is like one of the best on ball defenders in the nba lol and he can shoot

Clippers, yeah. They have never done much of anything healthy or otherwise besides posting a strong srs during the 2020 regular season.

Agree on McDaniels


They’re never healthy though lol, that’s kind of the point
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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#27 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:31 am

Worst poll ever. At the very least Celtics and Bucks need to be listed. I’d have the Celtics #1 personally.
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Re: 2nd best team in 2023 

Post#28 » by OhayoKD » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:37 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Clippers?


Mcdaniels is like one of the best on ball defenders in the nba lol and he can shoot

Clippers, yeah. They have never done much of anything healthy or otherwise besides posting a strong srs during the 2020 regular season.

Agree on McDaniels

They’re never healthy though lol, that’s kind of the point

They were in 2020 and the Mavs and the Nuggets did suprisingly well. They were for the first round of 2021 too. I could buy them having a good shot over what was a injury-wrecked 2021 field, but besides their games against the Jazz, I haven't seen anything to suggest they would be favorites against a bunch of full-health competition. They have a great rs record vs the Lakers but that's about it.

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