Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread

[nate33]

At some point, Wizards management can tell Beal to go pound sand and just sit him on the sidelines during his final prime years (sort of like what Houston did to John Wall). Hardball works both ways.

That ain’t happening. No way Beal gets treated in DC like Wall got treated in Houston.

Something will be worked out before it gets to that point.

I agree it won't happen because I don't believe Beal is going to say "send me to THAT team, and only that team, and you will take back nothing of value in the trade because I want to win on that team". If Beal says that, I would tell him to "sit on that bench, and only that bench, until you're willing to be reasonable."

[Menace2Sobriety]

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Here's my tear-down:

We have 13 guys under contract:

1 of them, Porzingis, presents a big, big decision -- but not one that has to be made right now.

Of the other 12, I'm pretty sure I'd keep 3 for now:

Goodwin is a no-brainer given how he's looked so far.
Kispert is also a no-brainer to keep for now.
Gafford is still good value even on his new contract.

Of the other 9, however:

Brad has to go. This off season or at the next deadline.
Kuz has to go. This off season.
Todd has to go: cut him if we can still stay under the tax despite paying his guaranteed $1.8m.
Wright & Morris are expiring. If there's a deal that brings solid rebuilding value (a pick &/or & a young guy with potential) then either 1 or both of them should go this off season.
Deni gets this year -- period! -- but I'd be listening to offers.
Johnny Davis gets this year to take hold; he needs to look like a real NBA player. Still, here too I'd be listening to offers.
Cooks is guaranteed & cheap -- might as well take a look, but that's as far as it goes.
Gill is expiring. For the time being he's good value at the end of the bench. Still, if someone wanted to give a R2 pick for him, any R2 pick, I'd jump on it.

We have 3 draft picks & should use them all. & we also need to find a good prospect among the undrafted.
At least 4 rookies -- you know... operate the way Memphis does!!

I’m not too far off your ideas PIF, but definitely keeping Deni. I’d like to see him and KP run the offense honestly.
- KP
- Deni
- Kispert
- Gafford
- Davis (wouldn’t be fussed either way)
- Wright (thought Delon Wright signed a 2 year guarantee? I would keep him as well as I thought he played well)
- Goodwin (wouldn’t be fussed either way - need to see more)

I’d take a few of the proposed deals for Beal, as long as it includes a couple picks. Prefer the Lowry + Herro deals, and subsequently moving Lowry.

If KP is not in our future, I propose a deal with Detroit, centering around Wiseman + TPE. Yes, I’m almost an eternal optimist.

[gambitx777]

I still think keeping KP is fine! You don't wanna just put right try to loose you just wanna gather assets.

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[9 and 20]

I think they're trading everybody and I'm here for it. Slap a 'for sale' sticker on every one of these guys. I really don't care if they win 3 games next year - just quit with the bandaid solutions and start building something coherent.

[NatP4]

I still think keeping KP is fine! You don't wanna just put right try to loose you just wanna gather assets.

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I’m thrilled at him potentially opting in. That all but guarantees a big deadline trade that probably returns at least a couple first round picks.

Beal is gone this week, Kuzma is pretty clearing not being re-signed, and KP gone at the deadline for more assets, that is a really quick cleansing of the roster/payroll.

Should be able to add at least four 1sts in total from Beal/KP trades, and be bad enough to once again, keep our 2024 1st.

We can easily walk out of draft night with Coulibaly and Podziemski (if it were up to me), to start the rebuild.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

This offseason is off to nothing less than a spectacular start. Basically not one thing I've heard am I'm annoyed or upset about, I'm hoping some of it just comes to fruition.

Zinger opting in would be dream scenario. We could test to see if his health is sustainable, while having -theoretically- an offensive hub to play through if Beal and Kuzma are off the roster.

[tleikheen]

Letting Bradley Beal look into trades in a way tells Porzingis and Kuzma start looking yourselves because your now just a trade asset also.

Why would KP or Kuz sign and later be traded to a bottom tier team for young players which bottom teams have the most of . KP opts in to be an unrestricted FA after this upcoming season.If traded to a bad team then his contract only covers this yr. Kuz wont sign a long term contract with the Wiz also where he might be traded to a bad team also by signing up with the Wiz .

All eyes are on the Wiz as Beal ,KP & Kuz are in one way another looking for new teams.

[payitforward]

Letting Bradley Beal look into trades in a way tells Porzingis and Kuzma start looking yourselves because your now just a trade asset also....

That's a very good point! Especially about Kuzma, IMO, but it's relevant to KP too -- i.e. why would he negotiate an extension now & commit long-term to a rebuilding team. Why not just hit the open market next year?

[gesa2]

Letting Bradley Beal look into trades in a way tells Porzingis and Kuzma start looking yourselves because your now just a trade asset also....

That's a very good point! Especially about Kuzma, IMO, but it's relevant to KP too -- i.e. why would he negotiate an extension now & commit long-term to a rebuilding team. Why not just hit the open market next year?

I think Porzingas’ injury history complicates his calculations. He could be a free agent now and pick his own team this offseason. He just had his best, most injury free year. But we(now that Sheppard is gone) and other teams may be wary of committing big dollars for 4 years to him. That and the weak buyers market for free agent centers means he might benefit by waiting a year. He may do better financially by getting traded to a solid team and then resigning with bird rights. But he has to weigh that against the chances he misses time to injuries and lowers his value.

[NatP4]

Another report today, saying Kuzma opts out, Porzinigs opts in.

[FAH1223]

I hope KP opts in and starts the season in DC. He will have great value in February if he stays healthy.

Otherwise, I agree with PIF's view of the roster. The Wizards are in solid position. No huge money on the books after the Beal trade and we'll have an extra pick or two.

[payitforward]

Just hope that there's a market for Kuz which makes a sign 'n trade possible.

[gambitx777]

Just hope that there's a market for Kuz which makes a sign 'n trade possible.

I predict the suns for christ Paul and a number of seconds.


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[tleikheen]

Looking at Ripcity Reddit so many still think oF KP with Dallas and standing in the corner in JKidds unimaginative offense. They don't know how much ballin KP has done as a Wizard and Euro play.
One thing is for sure the Blazer fans are realizing is drafting another 19/20 yr old is saying goodbye to Dame.
Id love a #3 for KP ,but #3 and Anfernee Simons might be and filler might be an overpay on Blazers part .

KP and #8 for #3 and Nurkic and filler (Little or Winslow or Thybulle

[tleikheen]

One thing Phoenix understands is your not beating the Denver Nuggets by defense ,you're going to have to outscore them. Its an offense 1st league which Ive said so many times and thats where Denver gets their confidence from .They know they can outscore all the other teams .

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

One thing Phoenix understands is your not beating the Denver Nuggets by defense ,you're going to have to outscore them. Its an offense 1st league which Ive said so many times and thats where Denver gets their confidence from .They know they can outscore all the other teams .

Disagree. They dropped a ton of points on Denver with Booker going nuclear for a couple of games at home. There's only one ball unless you think the Suns can average 130 points per game. So you replace some of those shots Booker and Durant are playing, let Beal take some, does it give them a better result.

Then you look at that trios recent injury history, they are really gambling on a perfect alignment of stars. Don't see it happening.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Just hope that there's a market for Kuz which makes a sign 'n trade possible.

I predict the suns for christ Paul and a number of seconds.


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Surprise!

The Wizards decide to gift the Suns.

[tleikheen]

The West is defining how to win in the NBA.......Denver can outscore you but twice they lost to Phoenix giving up 121 & 129 points up .Now Phoenix is doubling down. The East is falling behind .

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

One thing Phoenix understands is your not beating the Denver Nuggets by defense ,you're going to have to outscore them. Its an offense 1st league which Ive said so many times and thats where Denver gets their confidence from .They know they can outscore all the other teams .

Disagree. They dropped a ton of points on Denver with Booker going nuclear for a couple of games at home. There's only one ball unless you think the Suns can average 130 points per game. So you replace some of those shots Booker and Durant are playing, let Beal take some, does it give them a better result.

Then you look at that trios recent injury history, they are really gambling on a perfect alignment of stars. Don't see it happening.

One thing Phoenix understands is your not beating the Denver Nuggets by defense ,you're going to have to outscore them. Its an offense 1st league which Ive said so many times and thats where Denver gets their confidence from .They know they can outscore all the other teams .

I think Beal will provide a lot of points.

However, I think Phoenix was better with Bridges and Cam Johnson. This iteration with KD doesn't defend well at all. Bradley Beal won't make their defense any better. Also, there is only one basketball.

[tleikheen]

This iteration with KD doesn't defend well at all. Bradley Beal won't make their defense any better. Also, there is only one basketball.

Did you watch the playoffs between Phoenix and Denver ,KD and Booker made all the right plays passing the ball to the right man and playing their best defense but they were outgunned and got worn down and now they addressed that problem with getting Beal .For some reason ppl think KD and Booker want to look good scoring points and not sharing the basketball but if you watched them play they did do the right BB plays .They just lost to a better offense with more options.