Brandon Miller - Alabama

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Miller with some kind of point forward/3rd playing making potential has to be some kind of bad joke. This kind of potential is like saying Kobe Bufkin has Kobe potential.

He projects as a good secondary play making wing, as evidenced here at the 8:44 mark:

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Miller also had a higher assist % as a freshman that KD, Tatum and Ingram.

while technically true, he was also like 2 years older than all of them lol

i dont want to keep pounding the same drum, but this matters in this age bracket.

also none of those 3 guys i'd consider top 3 playmakers on any team...in fact that reason Celtics are losing in the POs is b/c Tatum has games where he can't playmake for ****.

Miller was still just a freshman this season, so at a similar stage in his development to those guys. 

Celtics never have brogdon, smart and white on the court at the same time. So Tatum is pretty much always a top 2 or 3 play maker on the floor for the celtics.

Tatum's developed a ton as a play making these past 2 or 3 years. There were a bunch of games this postseason where he really thrived in a point forward type of role, whipping passes all over the floor to the open man.

His lack of play making is not why the celtics lost in the playoffs. You might be confusing him with Jaylen Brown.

[SeattleJazzFan]

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imagine letting this guy slip to #3 or 4.

[azcatz11]

His release is awful. Why did he change it?

[SeattleJazzFan]

His release is awful. Why did he change it?

it's been the same release since he started at bama - he's incredibly precise, almost obsessive about his shooting mechanics. it's a beautiful and fundamentally sound release. it's a low release, but it's quick and at 6'9" he can overcome the low release point.

if he changed it, he changed it after HS (i don't remember his release in HS at all).

assuming he did change it after HS...why you ask? maybe so he could shoot 39% threes and 86% FTs as a frosh at alabama. i guess the gamble paid off.

[azcatz11]

His release is awful. Why did he change it?

it's been the same release since he started at bama - he's incredibly precise, almost obsessive about his shooting mechanics. it's a beautiful and fundamentally sound release. it's a low release, but it's quick and at 6'9" he can overcome the low release point.

if he changed it, he changed it after HS (i don't remember his release in HS at all).

assuming he did change it after HS...why you ask? maybe so he could shoot 39% threes and 86% FTs as a frosh at alabama. i guess the gamble paid off.

He had a high release in high school. Are you sure he can overcome that release in the pros?

[SeattleJazzFan]

His release is awful. Why did he change it?

it's been the same release since he started at bama - he's incredibly precise, almost obsessive about his shooting mechanics. it's a beautiful and fundamentally sound release. it's a low release, but it's quick and at 6'9" he can overcome the low release point.

if he changed it, he changed it after HS (i don't remember his release in HS at all).

assuming he did change it after HS...why you ask? maybe so he could shoot 39% threes and 86% FTs as a frosh at alabama. i guess the gamble paid off.

He had a high release in high school. Are you sure he can overcome that release in the pros?

i will just say, based on what i saw of his scoring prowess and ability to get his shot at bama, i'm not concerned.

[deepeeenn]

He changed it after highschool. His HS game tape has more a traditional form with a higher release point. I think his new form is quicker but lower and that has effected the style of shots he takes in the midrange. A handful of his game tape that I’ve see where he is taking midrange jumpers look weird. Several where the only way he gets separation is by spinning into a mid J. And the release is weird because his gather becomes strange with that low set point.

If he’s at all successful with that low set point it’s because it’s quick and in the midrange because of the extra spacing of the NBA. Otherwise he has struggled with good lengthy defenders, even outside the 3

[deepeeenn]

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imagine letting this guy slip to #3 or 4.

Looking at that video, I can’t take too much positive from it. He’s being guarding by a defender that isn’t really trying and is much shorter than him. His behind the back dribble looks a little slow and loose. And I cant help but see his release point and think that it’s not getting blocked.

[SeattleJazzFan]

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imagine letting this guy slip to #3 or 4.

Looking at that video, I can’t take too much positive from it. He’s being guarding by a defender that isn’t really trying and is much shorter than him. His behind the back dribble looks a little slow and loose. And I cant help but see his release point and think that it’s not getting blocked.

he put up 20 ppg in the SEC - he can get his shot off. we don't have to rely on what he did in an empty gym to know this dude can score.

[azcatz11]

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imagine letting this guy slip to #3 or 4.

Looking at that video, I can’t take too much positive from it. He’s being guarding by a defender that isn’t really trying and is much shorter than him. His behind the back dribble looks a little slow and loose. And I cant help but see his release point and think that it’s not getting blocked.

he put up 20 ppg in the SEC - he can get his shot off. we don't have to rely on what he did in an empty gym to know this dude can score.

I can tell you the scouts are concerned about that release

[NYPiston]

he put up 20 ppg in the SEC - he can get his shot off. we don't have to rely on what he did in an empty gym to know this dude can score.

His splits against good teams is concerning though especially down the stretch but he also had a lot on his mind obviously so that might have played a role.

Either way, I think it's a safe bet that he'll be a good scorer at the NBA level. It's the other parts of his game (handle, playmaking) that will separate him from being just a run of the mill long range shooter to All Star. Mid range game needs some work too.

[HMFFL]

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imagine letting this guy slip to #3 or 4.

Future superstar is my prediction. Portland needs him with what they currently have. Charlotte is a -250 favorite to draft him.

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[BostonCouchGM]

comparisons to Tatum make little sense. He's an MPJ, Jabari, Grant, and Isaac type. He won't be a #1 but could be a very good #2 on the right team.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Looking at that video, I can’t take too much positive from it. He’s being guarding by a defender that isn’t really trying and is much shorter than him. His behind the back dribble looks a little slow and loose. And I cant help but see his release point and think that it’s not getting blocked.

he put up 20 ppg in the SEC - he can get his shot off. we don't have to rely on what he did in an empty gym to know this dude can score.

I can tell you the scouts are concerned about that release

so concerned that there will be a guy taken ahead of him in the draft.

[BlazersBroncos]

comparisons to Tatum make little sense. He's an MPJ, Jabari, Grant, and Isaac type. He won't be a #1 but could be a very good #2 on the right team.

Still like the Rashard Lewis comp - even if its more of a overall talent level comp than a player comparison (IE Miller isnt as limited handling as Lewis, while Rashard was a much better post scorer - that turn around was money).

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he put up 20 ppg in the SEC - he can get his shot off. we don't have to rely on what he did in an empty gym to know this dude can score.

His splits against good teams is concerning though especially down the stretch but he also had a lot on his mind obviously so that might have played a role.

Either way, I think it's a safe bet that he'll be a good scorer at the NBA level. It's the other parts of his game (handle, playmaking) that will separate him from being just a run of the mill long range shooter to All Star. Mid range game needs some work too.

Miller's mid range game was his bread and butter in HS. He just didn't show it as much in college - probably because of the way Bama ran their offense, or because he developed his 3 pt shot more (or both).

My question is, will he perhaps slide a little bit (even if its only down to like the 4-6 range) in light of the Ja Morant 25 game suspension announcement.

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With this announcement, Miller (involved in murder via gun a few months ago) and Emoni Bates (arrested for gun possession last fall) could slide a bit - teams might be hesitant to take them as high now..wouldn't be surprised if Bates goes undrafted now.

[SeattleJazzFan]

he put up 20 ppg in the SEC - he can get his shot off. we don't have to rely on what he did in an empty gym to know this dude can score.

His splits against good teams is concerning though especially down the stretch but he also had a lot on his mind obviously so that might have played a role.

Either way, I think it's a safe bet that he'll be a good scorer at the NBA level. It's the other parts of his game (handle, playmaking) that will separate him from being just a run of the mill long range shooter to All Star. Mid range game needs some work too.

Miller's mid range game was his bread and butter in HS. He just didn't show it as much in college - probably because of the way Bama ran their offense, or because he developed his 3 pt shot more (or both).

My question is, will he perhaps slide a little bit (even if its only down to like the 4-6 range) in light of the Ja Morant 25 game suspension announcement.

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With this announcement, Miller (involved in murder via gun a few months ago) and Emoni Bates (arrested for gun possession last fall) could slide a bit - teams might be hesitant to take them as high now..wouldn't be surprised if Bates goes undrafted now.

no chance miller "slides" past three. if ever there were a top 3 lock in any nba draft, this is it. this draft starts at 4.

[clyde21]

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[GSWFan1994]

The difference between a Danny Granger and a Paul George: ballhandling, passing, court vision. Most specifically, the first 2 in this case.

Now you add defense to a Paul George and you have a perennial All-Star, sometimes All-NBA player. Granger is (was) the guy who got a couple of All-Star berths in his whole career, but even without the injuries would never reach the level of a Paul George.

In Tatum's case, you have his absurdly fantastic footwork. That's what makes him an All-NBA, borderline MVP-level talent... besides what else I said above.

Now why I'm typing all of this? Brandon Miller doesn't have those 5 atributes, but there's a pathway for him to improve with the tools he already has, and develop into that echeleon of player. Will he reach that? I don't know, evaluating prospects is not an exact science.

Having said that, I like his makeup as a player and somehow, I don't know why, I sense some Kobe mentality in the way he plays. I'd not be surprised if he develops to an All-NBA level within his 5th year.

[Duke4life831]

The difference between a Danny Granger and a Paul George: ballhandling, passing, court vision. Most specifically, the first 2 in this case.

Now you add defense to a Paul George and you have a perennial All-Star, sometimes All-NBA player. Granger is (was) the guy who got a couple of All-Star berths in his whole career, but even without the injuries would never reach the level of a Paul George.

In Tatum's case, you have his absurdly fantastic footwork. That's what makes him an All-NBA, borderline MVP-level talent... besides what else I said above.

Now why I'm typing all of this? Brandon Miller doesn't have those 5 atributes, but there's a pathway for him to improve with the tools he already has, and develop into that echeleon of player. Will he reach that? I don't know, evaluating prospects is not an exact science.

Having said that, I like his makeup as a player and somehow, I don't know why, I sense some Kobe mentality in the way he plays. I'd not be surprised if he develops to an All-NBA level within his 5th year.

I disagree with the conclusion, but I like the well thought out thought process.