Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[JRoy]

"I think some teams that have players that they're interested in have kind of turned their noses up at the idea of a package of Simons and No. 3," replied Zach Lowe.

There were like two guys who started barking at me about how amazing Simons is and how we should be excited to receive him in a trade and that I'm crazy for calling him one of the worst defenders in the league. Looks like Lowe knows what's up and why nobody wants the guy and his yucky contract.

Anyway JRoy, enjoy having Dame, Simons, Sharpe and Scoot!!! What a disaster of a backcourt situation. Dame is just gonna leave soon and then Simons will become disgruntled getting his minutes capped and then ya'll will realize Scoot isn't even close to Dame's level. The treadmill is running, best of luck!!

Sounds like a backcourt with options!

Youth, talent and a Hall of Fame player to mentor them.

And Simons!

For the time being.

Dame ain't taking any mentorship role for more than a year, he's like a caged animal waiting to be liberated.

Sounds great.

[Lockdown504090]

idk why people are moving like simons isnt a budding star. not doing this is a big mistake. Simons is a perfect fit with scottie barnes as a combo guard with a point forward. that
simons
whatever we can s+t fvv or trent for
Miller
Barnes
Poetl

Idk why we wouldnt do og and siakam for 3 and simons if our development is supposed to be so good. If our organization is as good as they want us to believe this should be an outstanding core to build around... idk why we are sitting here waiting for some magical deal to come to us when we have potential all nba players right infront of us.

[ArthurVandelay]

idk why people are moving like simons isnt a budding star. not doing this is a big mistake. Simons is a perfect fit with scottie barnes as a combo guard with a point forward. that
simons
whatever we can s+t fvv or trent for
Miller
Barnes
Poetl

Idk why we wouldnt do og and siakam for 3 and simons if our development is supposed to be so good. If our organization is as good as they want us to believe this should be an outstanding core to build around... idk why we are sitting here waiting for some magical deal to come to us when we have potential all nba players right infront of us.

It's his defense, or lack thereof. Offensively, yeah, he's a great fit next to Scottie.

[OakleyDokely]

People would be more excited about Simons if he wasn't one or the worst defensive players in the entire league. If he was just slightly below average or something it wouldn't matter as much but whatever he gives you offensively he gives it all back and more on the other end.

[WuTang_CMB]

This is all a waste of time.

Said it before but POR is just flirting showing Dame they are doing "work" like last season, but in the end, they will just pick at 3 and call it a day.

Both Dame and POR are content with eachother and both will let it ride for another season

Cronin is playing the game and knows the best thing he can do is draft BPA as he did last season ... and if the break up happens with Dame in the future, they will have a nice nucleus to grow with

[OakleyDokely]

I'm not a big Miller guy, so I think targeting something like 4 or even 7 makes sense as well.

I see Miller being compared to PG but he has nowhere near the defensive chops and that's what makes PG so valuable, his elite two way ability.

[wegotthabeet]

Portland Trades: Simons, Nurkic, Sharpe, 3rd pick, JRoy

Toronto Trades: Siakam, OG, 13th pick, NotMyKawhi

tough to give up NotMyKawhi, but I don't think we could sign JRoy as a free agent.

[___Rand___]

I'm not a big Miller guy, so I think targeting something like 4 or even 7 makes sense as well.

I see Miller being compared to PG but he has nowhere near the defensive chops and that's what makes PG so valuable, his elite two way ability.

Draft positions aren't based on "oh this guy doesn't look like Lebron or MJ so he shouldn't be #1." If you look at this year's crop of players and you think Miller is #4 to 7 you haven't watched the young players AT ALL.

You have to remember PG didn't look like this version of PG13 when he came into the league. Heck PG13 went #10 for a reason in that draft.

Miller can shoot the 3, he can finish, can create for himself and others (which PG didn't have when he came into the league). he is long athletic and can defend on a top 10 defensive team in college led by a defensive coach. He wasn't asked to do more on defense yes but he is a good defensive player and you'd know that if you watched a few of their games (or read a few scouting reports). He already has vision and play making ability that is already better than PG13.

His offensive skillsets are quite advanced for a freshman and he will contribute from year 1. Which a lot of lottery draft picks (save Victor) can't and won't do.

[___Rand___]

What of this RealGM story that Raps are moving into top 3? Is that based on existing rumors or is this a new fresh source. Most likely Portland trying to push their #3 pick on Raps.

[mtcan]

This is wishful thinking more than anything. Bobby and Masai will make the 13th pick and then chill the rest of the night.

[aroc23]

idk why people are moving like simons isnt a budding star. not doing this is a big mistake. Simons is a perfect fit with scottie barnes as a combo guard with a point forward. that
simons
whatever we can s+t fvv or trent for
Miller
Barnes
Poetl

Idk why we wouldnt do og and siakam for 3 and simons if our development is supposed to be so good. If our organization is as good as they want us to believe this should be an outstanding core to build around... idk why we are sitting here waiting for some magical deal to come to us when we have potential all nba players right infront of us.

Like others have said, Simons would be a star but for his atrocious defense. Maybe a change of scenery helps, but from what I have seen he is a major liability. You just cannot be a major liability if you are going to be one of the primary scorers or a playoff team. Especially not at $25-28 million like he is set to make until 2026.

OG and Siakam for just the 3rd pick and Simons is a huge overpay. Most Blazer fans concede that Siakam alone is worth that for a win now team. From what I have seen their complaint is that they do not think that is enough to contend and it is just a waste of time and delays the inevitable rebuild (and takes away a crucial piece for that), which I think is a legitimate concern. The only way OG and Siakam go to the Blazers together is if Sharpe is included, which would probably cause their fans to revolt.

[KrazyP]

idk why people are moving like simons isnt a budding star. not doing this is a big mistake. Simons is a perfect fit with scottie barnes as a combo guard with a point forward. that
simons
whatever we can s+t fvv or trent for
Miller
Barnes
Poetl

Idk why we wouldnt do og and siakam for 3 and simons if our development is supposed to be so good. If our organization is as good as they want us to believe this should be an outstanding core to build around... idk why we are sitting here waiting for some magical deal to come to us when we have potential all nba players right infront of us.

Terrible defense. He’ll have a Jamal Crawford/Lou Williams like career. Both became journeymen when teams realized they weren’t impact stars.

OG > simons
Siakam > 3rd pick

[WuTang_CMB]

Via Stein - The Trail Blazers, league sources say, continue to intimate that they are prepared to package Anfernee Simons with the No. 3 overall pick in a trade to acquire win-now talent to place alongside star guard Damian Lillard. Teams interested in trading for Lillard, meanwhile, continue to root for Portland’s inability to find a suitable win-now trade in the hope that it finally prompts Lillard to seek his exit from the Pacific Northwest.

[Bruin]

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[PhilBlackson]

idk why people are moving like simons isnt a budding star. not doing this is a big mistake. Simons is a perfect fit with scottie barnes as a combo guard with a point forward. that
simons
whatever we can s+t fvv or trent for
Miller
Barnes
Poetl

Idk why we wouldnt do og and siakam for 3 and simons if our development is supposed to be so good. If our organization is as good as they want us to believe this should be an outstanding core to build around... idk why we are sitting here waiting for some magical deal to come to us when we have potential all nba players right infront of us.

Terrible defense. He’ll have a Jamal Crawford/Lou Williams like career. Both became journeymen when teams realized they weren’t impact stars.

OG > simons
Siakam > 3rd pick

OG > Simons obv, Siakam > 3rd pick...tbd but if it's Scoot & he remains healthy, I say hell no to that homerism.

[Rapsalot]

I think there is a good win win deal with both Portland and Charlotte.

Charlotte we would have to get #2 pick Denver’s 2023 pick plus a couple of early second this year. This is a longer play because more draft compensation and two bad contracts for salary vs young player(s)

[PhilBlackson]

I think there is a good win win deal with both Portland and Charlotte.

Charlotte we would have to get #2 pick Denver’s 2023 pick plus a couple of early second this year. This is a longer play because more draft compensation and two bad contracts for salary vs young player(s)

There's absolutely no reason why CHA should be trading that 2nd pick with us, none.

[niQ]

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The Trail Blazers continue to intimate?

[JRoy]

This is all a waste of time.

Said it before but POR is just flirting showing Dame they are doing "work" like last season, but in the end, they will just pick at 3 and call it a day.

Both Dame and POR are content with eachother and both will let it ride for another season

Cronin is playing the game and knows the best thing he can do is draft BPA as he did last season ... and if the break up happens with Dame in the future, they will have a nice nucleus to grow with

This guy gets it.

[grimlock]

This is all a waste of time.

Said it before but POR is just flirting showing Dame they are doing "work" like last season, but in the end, they will just pick at 3 and call it a day.

Both Dame and POR are content with eachother and both will let it ride for another season

Cronin is playing the game and knows the best thing he can do is draft BPA as he did last season ... and if the break up happens with Dame in the future, they will have a nice nucleus to grow with

This guy gets it.

If history repeats itself.. then yes.. this is exactly what will happen.