Miami Heat 2023 Off-Season Thread 1.0 - Give them Cancun!!!

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1641 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:16 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bobby Marks mentioned giving up 2028 top 10 protected first in hypothetical trade. Prefer giving that up and keeping our 18th pick for a cheap bench rotation player locked up

Still think we should be contacting the Nets and Pacers to see about trading back for both of their 1st whether we want the addition pick to flip in a bigger deal or we want to keep them for 2 cost controlled players. Or trade 1 and keep 1

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1642 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:19 am

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MorbidHEAT · Post #1643 » by **MorbidHEAT** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:20 am

Rapaz wrote:

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Lowry + Dipo + 18

We need Evan Milberg to run the Wizards.

Sign me up for that. Trade Herro for bench depth after. Lol

Timantha · Post #1644 » by **Timantha** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:22 am

Beal the Heat clutch killer will be no longer 8-)

Rapaz · Post #1645 » by **Rapaz** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:24 am

Timantha wrote:

Beal the Heat clutch killer will be no longer

And then we get Dame to torch the Nuggets.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1646 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:30 am

Timantha wrote:

Beal the Heat clutch killer will be no longer

Jimmy owns our rivals

Post #1647 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:37 am

Beal and Lowry both have the same agent. Wouldn’t surprise me if we keep Lowry for one last run with Beal with the intention of just letting his 30 million expire to clean up the books a bit. This of course is with the assumption of trading Herro, Robinson, and 2028 for Beal. A backdoor way of freeing up the full non tax payer MLE is trading Highsmith attached with Oladipo’s expiring. We are currently 11.1 million over and those two contracts equal 11.3

Bishop45 · Post #1648 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:43 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

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When/If OG dream falls thru, Brogdan could replace Gabe/Herro, if he's not too costly of a bench player

Post #1649 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:46 am

Bishop45 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

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When/If OG dream falls thru, Brogdan could replace Gabe/Herro, if he's not too costly of a bench player

Brogdon is making 22.5 million a year and Boston not trading him to a rival. Not even worth the spec

Bishop45 · Post #1650 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:48 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

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When/If OG dream falls thru, Brogdan could replace Gabe/Herro, if he's not too costly of a bench player

Brogdon is making 22.5 million a year and Boston not trading him to a rival. Not even worth the spec

Damn, my bad, I meant Bogdan lol mentally spell-corrected

Post #1651 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:53 am

2023-24 Luxury Tax Totals
Denotes the Heat current standing in terms of the luxury tax threshold. Teams that spend over the threshold pay fines (estimated below).
TYPE TOTALS
2023 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold $162,000,000
Total Taxable Salaries $173,127,647
Current Luxury Tax Space $-11,127,647
Est. Luxury Tax Bill $19,069,120

Victor Oladipo $9,450,000
Haywood Highsmith $1,902,137

Total: $11,352,137-$11,127,647= $224,490 under the tax

Bishop45 · Post #1652 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:58 am

Bogdan a good shot-maker, decent defender; just gotta keep him on the court

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #1653 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:02 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Timantha wrote:

Beal the Heat clutch killer will be no longer

Jimmy owns our rivals

is that kyle lowry vs the hornets lol

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1654 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:07 am

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Timantha wrote:

Beal the Heat clutch killer will be no longer

Jimmy owns our rivals

is that kyle lowry vs the hornets lol

Lmao didn’t notice that!

Timantha · Post #1655 » by **Timantha** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:51 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:2023-24 Luxury Tax Totals
Denotes the Heat current standing in terms of the luxury tax threshold. Teams that spend over the threshold pay fines (estimated below).
TYPE TOTALS
2023 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold $162,000,000
Total Taxable Salaries $173,127,647
Current Luxury Tax Space $-11,127,647
Est. Luxury Tax Bill $19,069,120

Victor Oladipo $9,450,000
Haywood Highsmith $1,902,137

Total: $11,352,137-$11,127,647= $224,490 under the tax

There is no way we avoid the tax unless some cap space team generously absorbs Lowry or Herro's contract. If you take Oladipo and Highsmith out, then Miami will only have 7 players contracted. CBA requires teams to have 14 players. Filling up the roster with the #18 pick and vet minimums will still put us over the tax. There is no way for Micky to escape from the 2nd apron this year if he's serious about contending

HEATVols865 · Post #1656 » by **HEATVols865** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:54 am

Give me:

Gabe/Dragic
Beal/Strus
Jimmy/Cain
Jovic/Caleb
Bam/Robinson

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gom · Post #1657 » by **gom** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:22 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Beal and Lowry both have the same agent. Wouldn’t surprise me if we keep Lowry for one last run with Beal with the intention of just letting his 30 million expire to clean up the books a bit. This of course is with the assumption of trading Herro, Robinson, and 2028 for Beal. A backdoor way of freeing up the full non tax payer MLE is trading Highsmith attached with Oladipo’s expiring. We are currently 11.1 million over and those two contracts equal 11.3

No.

If a team uses the non-taxpayer mid-level exception and it pushes them into the tax-paying territory, they would no longer be eligible to use that exception.

Rapaz · Post #1658 » by **Rapaz** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:32 am

Beal will replace Herro
Kispert will replace Strus
Morris will replace Vincent

Vertical Limit · Post #1659 » by **Vertical Limit** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:48 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Why is the front offices mouth piece pushing so hard for 4 all stars? Patrick trying to convince Micky to pay the tax through the media I guess

Lol micky is definitely not going to pay the tax unless riley shows him a roster that will 100% go into the Finals again next year. It cant be this same roster minus Gabe/Strus.

If we manage to strike out again this offseason from acquiring Dame or other star that truly puts us at the top.. look for Micky to give the green light to Andy to negotiate buyouts for Lowry and oladipo. Hes gonna avoid the tax if theres no championship run.

And i dont think Beal is someone Micky is trying to pay the tax for.

Lowrys contract being an expiring is an asset that we cant waste.. that is a 29.7 million gap you would need to match salaries for Dame. Portland isnt trying to take on 45.7 million of annual salaries (which is damians number in 2023-24) that extends onto further seasons.. if they do move on, they want an expiring they can buy out, and assets.

We probably will need a third team involved to get this done with Liliard

Hoops3355 · Post #1660 » by **Hoops3355** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:42 am

Vertical Limit wrote:Strus and Gabe will probably sign outright to other teams and thats fine.. honestly their trade value was nothing at the deadline, we couldnt get a second rounder if we tried… and Strus did not make his stock better these playoffs.

Wouldnt shock me if his market is so dry he signs a one year prove it deal back with Miami.

Gabe stock went way up at the playoffs.. he will definitely get paid that 9-12 million per season by some team which is too rich for us when we are trying to land Dame..

Yeah I’m curious to see what happens with Strus. I think he takes a whatever pays the most total even if it’s like 5/20 instead of a shorter 2-3 that has a higher yearly.

I do think Strus will be alright and would have loved to have him back but get that bag.

Gave I think we end up keeping if it’s either off the two. He looked good until he joined Jimmy in until one leg club and he’s a solid defender.