Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[bballsparkin]

Okay I got a trade in the checker I would agree to lol.

Nets trade: Claxton, Bridges
Nets get: Simons, Nurkic, #3

Portland trades: Simons, Nurkic, #3,#23, 2026 1st, 2028 1st, 2030 1st
Portland gets: Bridges, OG, Claxton

Raps trade: OG
Raps get: Royce O'Neal, #23, 2026 1st, 2028 1st, 2030 1st. we also get a 9 million dollar TPE

Gonna pass on that one thanks.

Lol, I'll write this one for him.

[MoneyBall]

If one of the primary initial reasons for obtaining Poeltl was to pair him with Siakam again then, hopefully, Masai isn't succumbing to sunk cost fallacy and is willing to deal Siakam if it makes sense and convince Poeltl to stay regardless of what happens.

I mean, we have Jakob's bird rights, no? Worst case we match and retain him no matter what, and can then trade him at the deadline to retain value if he truly wants out.

We have Jakob's bird rights but he's still unrestricted, we don't get to just match his contract. In any case, I'm not too worried about him walking away this summer.

If we trade Siakam for prospects we're looking lottery bound, which is a hard pill to swallow given that we traded away our 2024 pick. Masai knew that when he made the trade. There's not much that has happened between the deadline and today that would make me think Masai regrets making the trade. I really don't think Masai is thinking rebuild at all. Sure, it could happen if he gets an offer he can't refuse, but I seriously doubt that's gonna happen.

I mean, we are lottery bound WITH Siakam. We did just grab the #13 pick after all. That's within the lottery. We were slated to pick #6 before we dumped even more future picks to retain additional help in Poeltl.

We really aren't giving up THAT much if we trade Siakam. Gotta put it into perspective. He's an amazing #2, completely mediocre #1.

Guys like Siakam don't grow on trees, even if they aren't a true #1 on a contending team. His numbers last season before Nurse ran him into the ground were spectacular, and he's still improving. He's a legit two way player and has one of the best motors in the league for a big man.

As I said earlier, I'm open to change, but this idea that Siakam is likely gone this off season seems far fetched to me.

[Tha Cynic]

What would that trade even look like....

No need to wonder because it doesn't exist

Well I mean, how many future 1sts is POR trading? lol.

Technically speaking it would be this:
To BKN: Simons, Little, '26 unprotected 1st, '28 unprotected 1st, +swaps?
To TOR: Nurkic, #3
To POR: OG, Bridges, Claxton

This works in the simulator. You can fiddle with the picks however you like, as long as TOR gets #3. I imagine we'd look for some 2nds and whatever swap(s) BKN doesn't receive, for taking on Nurkic's deal. 4 years of Nurk is kinda rough.

If enough picks convey to BKN, I could kinda see them going for it? Maybe? They'd be super loaded with future picks to make the next big star deal. I think TOR would go for it too if we get some additional compensation for taking on Nurk. But then we let Poeltl walk? I dno.

Another iteration/idea is that they involve Grant in a S&T, probably to BKN, but might work to TOR as well but we'd prob need to add salary:

To BKN: S&T Grant, Little, '26 1st, '28 1st, +swaps?
To TOR: Simons, #3
or
To BKN Simons, Little, picks
To TOR: S&T Grant #3
To POR: OG, Bridges, Claxton, OPJ/Flynn/whatever salary ballast

POR goes all in with Lillard/Sharpe/Bridges/OG/Claxton. They'd have Nurk or a re-signed Grant and OPJ I guess? Plus they will have the MLE to spend. I mean, short of making a deal for a superstar, that's probably the best looking lineup they'll see, and it might contend. It's got all the right ingredients.

TOR would be fine with Simons and #3. Nurkic, #3, multiple 2nds and a swap? Maybe, but less appealing.
BKN, I just don't know enough about how highly they view Bridges (I imagine very highly), and what direction they wanna take, but by the looks of their roster, they could just go super tank mode for a couple years after this deal. Sell off Cam, Dinwidde, Harris, DFS etc., they'd have a very nice haul of picks plus some easily moveable pieces like Simons/Little/Grant to get more picks and try and remake their superteam in 2-3 years. 2 unprotected picks plus 2 swaps and young pieces for Bridges doesn't seem that far off (altho the picks are obviously far out).

The Nets are giving up more value than Toronto. They would be the ones getting #3 if Claxton and Bridges are going out. I don't see this trade working out for the Raptors. I doubt the Raptors want a late pick.

There's a higher chance of a direct trade with the Nets for Portland if the Nets want that #3 pick and Portland really likes Bridges. To me the Bridges timeline doesn't make sense to keep if I'm the Nets.

[ArthurVandelay]

No need to wonder because it doesn't exist

Well I mean, how many future 1sts is POR trading? lol.

Technically speaking it would be this:
To BKN: Simons, Little, '26 unprotected 1st, '28 unprotected 1st, +swaps?
To TOR: Nurkic, #3
To POR: OG, Bridges, Claxton

This works in the simulator. You can fiddle with the picks however you like, as long as TOR gets #3. I imagine we'd look for some 2nds and whatever swap(s) BKN doesn't receive, for taking on Nurkic's deal. 4 years of Nurk is kinda rough.

If enough picks convey to BKN, I could kinda see them going for it? Maybe? They'd be super loaded with future picks to make the next big star deal. I think TOR would go for it too if we get some additional compensation for taking on Nurk. But then we let Poeltl walk? I dno.

Another iteration/idea is that they involve Grant in a S&T, probably to BKN, but might work to TOR as well but we'd prob need to add salary:

To BKN: S&T Grant, Little, '26 1st, '28 1st, +swaps?
To TOR: Simons, #3
or
To BKN Simons, Little, picks
To TOR: S&T Grant #3
To POR: OG, Bridges, Claxton, OPJ/Flynn/whatever salary ballast

POR goes all in with Lillard/Sharpe/Bridges/OG/Claxton. They'd have Nurk or a re-signed Grant and OPJ I guess? Plus they will have the MLE to spend. I mean, short of making a deal for a superstar, that's probably the best looking lineup they'll see, and it might contend. It's got all the right ingredients.

TOR would be fine with Simons and #3. Nurkic, #3, multiple 2nds and a swap? Maybe, but less appealing.
BKN, I just don't know enough about how highly they view Bridges (I imagine very highly), and what direction they wanna take, but by the looks of their roster, they could just go super tank mode for a couple years after this deal. Sell off Cam, Dinwidde, Harris, DFS etc., they'd have a very nice haul of picks plus some easily moveable pieces like Simons/Little/Grant to get more picks and try and remake their superteam in 2-3 years. 2 unprotected picks plus 2 swaps and young pieces for Bridges doesn't seem that far off (altho the picks are obviously far out).

The Nets are giving up more value than Toronto. They would be the ones getting #3 if Claxton and Bridges are going out. I don't see this trade working out for the Raptors. I doubt the Raptors want a late pick.

There's a higher chance of a direct trade with the Nets for Portland if the Nets want that #3 pick and Portland really likes Bridges. To me the Bridges timeline doesn't make sense to keep if I'm the Nets.

Nets aren’t trading Bridges. The only team that benefits from losing is Houston. Bridges is one of the best value contracts in the league.

They are better off trading some of their wings for better fitting pieces/assets and then waiting for Dame to be traded.

[ontnut]

Well I mean, how many future 1sts is POR trading? lol.

Technically speaking it would be this:
To BKN: Simons, Little, '26 unprotected 1st, '28 unprotected 1st, +swaps?
To TOR: Nurkic, #3
To POR: OG, Bridges, Claxton

This works in the simulator. You can fiddle with the picks however you like, as long as TOR gets #3. I imagine we'd look for some 2nds and whatever swap(s) BKN doesn't receive, for taking on Nurkic's deal. 4 years of Nurk is kinda rough.

If enough picks convey to BKN, I could kinda see them going for it? Maybe? They'd be super loaded with future picks to make the next big star deal. I think TOR would go for it too if we get some additional compensation for taking on Nurk. But then we let Poeltl walk? I dno.

Another iteration/idea is that they involve Grant in a S&T, probably to BKN, but might work to TOR as well but we'd prob need to add salary:

To BKN: S&T Grant, Little, '26 1st, '28 1st, +swaps?
To TOR: Simons, #3
or
To BKN Simons, Little, picks
To TOR: S&T Grant #3
To POR: OG, Bridges, Claxton, OPJ/Flynn/whatever salary ballast

POR goes all in with Lillard/Sharpe/Bridges/OG/Claxton. They'd have Nurk or a re-signed Grant and OPJ I guess? Plus they will have the MLE to spend. I mean, short of making a deal for a superstar, that's probably the best looking lineup they'll see, and it might contend. It's got all the right ingredients.

TOR would be fine with Simons and #3. Nurkic, #3, multiple 2nds and a swap? Maybe, but less appealing.
BKN, I just don't know enough about how highly they view Bridges (I imagine very highly), and what direction they wanna take, but by the looks of their roster, they could just go super tank mode for a couple years after this deal. Sell off Cam, Dinwidde, Harris, DFS etc., they'd have a very nice haul of picks plus some easily moveable pieces like Simons/Little/Grant to get more picks and try and remake their superteam in 2-3 years. 2 unprotected picks plus 2 swaps and young pieces for Bridges doesn't seem that far off (altho the picks are obviously far out).

The Nets are giving up more value than Toronto. They would be the ones getting #3 if Claxton and Bridges are going out. I don't see this trade working out for the Raptors. I doubt the Raptors want a late pick.

There's a higher chance of a direct trade with the Nets for Portland if the Nets want that #3 pick and Portland really likes Bridges. To me the Bridges timeline doesn't make sense to keep if I'm the Nets.

Nets aren’t trading Bridges. The only team that benefits from losing is Houston. Bridges is one of the best value contracts in the league.

They are better off trading some of their wings for better fitting pieces/assets and then waiting for Dame to be traded.

First of all, everyone's tradeable except maybe 2-3 players in the NBA right now (Jokic, Giannis, Steph). Literally everybody else is tradeable, so let's get that out of the way.

I'm just throwing around ideas of how that rumoured trade might actually be constructed. It's very difficult to formulate a fair trade for him esp if Sharpe is off the table...that said, I don't think Bridges' value will ever be higher than it is right now, having been traded for KD, putting up big stats on a fairly empty BKN team, still young and locked into a value contract. IF, big IF, they were to consider trading him for equal value, they'd probably get the biggest haul they could get right now.

I don't think BKN loses many more games if they trade Bridges in a S&T for Grant, Little and a plethora of picks. I imagine they'd want #3 in some iterations, so it would be something like Grant/Simons +Little + #3/all the picks. At worst they lose what, 3-5 more games with that move? Not a huge difference, and for them, do they really care if HOU gets a slightly better pick? Sure, it helps HOU out, but BKN doesn't actually lose anything more than they've already given up. Plus if they're that worried about it, they can EASILY turn around and flip those future picks, or #3, for another win-now player.

BKN picks are already traded, it's a sunk cost. Pick already conveyed this year, and next year's pick is gone. It doesn't REALLY matter to their franchise trajectory if they move HOU up in '24 or '25 by a few draft slots.

[PhilBlackson]

All that effort into creating a mock trade & debating who gets what when BKN has said on multiple occasions that they’re not trading Bridges lol smh.

[ArthurVandelay]

The Nets are giving up more value than Toronto. They would be the ones getting #3 if Claxton and Bridges are going out. I don't see this trade working out for the Raptors. I doubt the Raptors want a late pick.

There's a higher chance of a direct trade with the Nets for Portland if the Nets want that #3 pick and Portland really likes Bridges. To me the Bridges timeline doesn't make sense to keep if I'm the Nets.

Nets aren’t trading Bridges. The only team that benefits from losing is Houston. Bridges is one of the best value contracts in the league.

They are better off trading some of their wings for better fitting pieces/assets and then waiting for Dame to be traded.

First of all, everyone's tradeable except maybe 2-3 players in the NBA right now (Jokic, Giannis, Steph). Literally everybody else is tradeable, so let's get that out of the way.

I'm just throwing around ideas of how that rumoured trade might actually be constructed. It's very difficult to formulate a fair trade for him esp if Sharpe is off the table...that said, I don't think Bridges' value will ever be higher than it is right now, having been traded for KD, putting up big stats on a fairly empty BKN team, still young and locked into a value contract. IF, big IF, they were to consider trading him for equal value, they'd probably get the biggest haul they could get right now.

I don't think BKN loses many more games if they trade Bridges in a S&T for Grant, Little and a plethora of picks. I imagine they'd want #3 in some iterations, so it would be something like Grant/Simons +Little + #3/all the picks. At worst they lose what, 3-5 more games with that move? Not a huge difference, and for them, do they really care if HOU gets a slightly better pick? Sure, it helps HOU out, but BKN doesn't actually lose anything more than they've already given up. Plus if they're that worried about it, they can EASILY turn around and flip those future picks, or #3, for another win-now player.

BKN picks are already traded, it's a sunk cost. Pick already conveyed this year, and next year's pick is gone. It doesn't REALLY matter to their franchise trajectory if they move HOU up in '24 or '25 by a few draft slots.

Nobody tries to be bad in pro sports if they don’t have a draft pick to make it worth alienating the fans for long term gain. You send Bridges to a team, odds are they get better. Plus again Bridges is getting paid just $20m for the next 3 years for a team with no benefit to be bad/

Throw the ideas around, sure, but you can’t expect people to not mention the obvious.

[raf1995]

OG is a malcontent in Toronto and likely won’t resign. Management knows they have to trade him. Unfortunately, everyone else knows that as well, and add to that the fact that he’s an expiring contract, I think the likely return is closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick, not 3-4 unprotecteds. That would be an insane return for someone who is at best a 3rd banana on a really good team.

[navyblue]

OG is a malcontent in Toronto and likely won’t resign. Management knows they have to trade him. Unfortunately, everyone else knows that as well, and add to that the fact that he’s an expiring contract, I think the likely return is closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick, not 3-4 unprotecteds. That would be an insane return for someone who is at best a 3rd banana on a really good team.

Just yesterday it was reported that he is happy and willing to resign if he more a part of the offense.

Also you want Ant+1 pick....

Ballboys sigh.

[PhilBlackson]

OG is a malcontent in Toronto and likely won’t resign. Management knows they have to trade him. Unfortunately, everyone else knows that as well, and add to that the fact that he’s an expiring contract, I think the likely return is closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick, not 3-4 unprotecteds. That would be an insane return for someone who is at best a 3rd banana on a really good team.

Much rather make a deal with IND for the 7th + other picks than that and it’s already been well established without a good young player in the trade his asking price is either a high lotto pick or multiple 1sts. Not according to yours or my feelings but all previous reports. Regardless of what people supposedly know, he’s in incredibly high demand and compensation will have to reflect that.

[will]

OG is a malcontent in Toronto and likely won’t resign. Management knows they have to trade him. Unfortunately, everyone else knows that as well, and add to that the fact that he’s an expiring contract, I think the likely return is closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick, not 3-4 unprotecteds. That would be an insane return for someone who is at best a 3rd banana on a really good team.

Ant = Anthony Edwards. That is the only Ant I know of in the NBA.

Unless I am sorely mistaken, there is no other Ant in the NBA?

You saying a return for ADOBE would be closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick and not 3-4 unprotecteds? You must be out of your goddamn mind.

[ArthurVandelay]

OG is a malcontent in Toronto and likely won’t resign. Management knows they have to trade him. Unfortunately, everyone else knows that as well, and add to that the fact that he’s an expiring contract, I think the likely return is closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick, not 3-4 unprotecteds. That would be an insane return for someone who is at best a 3rd banana on a really good team.

Just yesterday it was reported that he is happy and willing to resign if he more a part of the offense.

Also you want Ant+1 pick....

Ballboys sigh.

I read that to mean get rid of FVV and pascal. But I recognize my hope/bias.

[raf1995]

OG is a malcontent in Toronto and likely won’t resign. Management knows they have to trade him. Unfortunately, everyone else knows that as well, and add to that the fact that he’s an expiring contract, I think the likely return is closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick, not 3-4 unprotecteds. That would be an insane return for someone who is at best a 3rd banana on a really good team.

Ant = Anthony Edwards. That is the only Ant I know of in the NBA.

Unless I am sorely mistaken, there is no other Ant in the NBA?

You saying a return for ADOBE would be closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick and not 3-4 unprotecteds? You must be out of your goddamn mind.

Ant = anfernee simons.

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[will]

OG is a malcontent in Toronto and likely won’t resign. Management knows they have to trade him. Unfortunately, everyone else knows that as well, and add to that the fact that he’s an expiring contract, I think the likely return is closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick, not 3-4 unprotecteds. That would be an insane return for someone who is at best a 3rd banana on a really good team.

Ant = Anthony Edwards. That is the only Ant I know of in the NBA.

Unless I am sorely mistaken, there is no other Ant in the NBA?

You saying a return for ADOBE would be closer to Ant + 1 unprotected pick and not 3-4 unprotecteds? You must be out of your goddamn mind.

Ant = anfernee simons.

Read on Twitter

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My apologies, Raf.

I am out of my goddamn mind.

[Son Goku 25]

Slightly related but I wonder if we can get Lakers 17th pick in some package for FVV

[DarkXaero]

Some absolutely horrific trades here involving the Nets. The Nets aren't interested in trading Mikal Bridges, let alone getting robbed in the process where Toronto benefits more. Nets already love Mikal and every report coming out from Nets side has them not even entertaining trade talk with Mikal. You guys need to be more realistic with the ideas, and these trades are treating Claxton like a throw in filler piece , when in reality his value is closer to what you guys think OG trade value is.

[WaltFrazier]

All that effort into creating a mock trade & debating who gets what when BKN has said on multiple occasions that they’re not trading Bridges lol smh.

Same could be said for most proposed trades on this board, minus the Bridges factor. Especially the proposed multi team trades which are invariably so convoluted they're a waste of time to read.

[LoveMyRaps]

Slightly related but I wonder if we can get Lakers 17th pick in some package for FVV

S&T

Fred for Bamba/Beasley + #17

[Syd-TK3]

Slightly related but I wonder if we can get Lakers 17th pick in some package for FVV

Would have to be after the draft now

[LoveMyRaps]

Some absolutely horrific trades here involving the Nets. The Nets aren't interested in trading Mikal Bridges, let alone getting robbed in the process where Toronto benefits more. Nets already love Mikal and every report coming out from Nets side has them not even entertaining trade talk with Mikal. You guys need to be more realistic with the ideas, and these trades are treating Claxton like a throw in filler piece , when in reality his value is closer to what you guys think OG trade value is.

The idea of Bridges + Claxton + OG to POR was suggested by Blazers fans.