Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Looking like Bucks keep Mids, Brook, Jae

[tydett]

I think Beal or No Beal would've been another great option here, MD.

[raferfenix]

This Beal stuff roughly aligns with the news very strangely put out there about how the Suns could be done with Chris Paul but maybe he could come back on the minimum.

All that rings a little differently if it's true that Beal is insisting to the Wizards that he will only allow a trade with Chris Paul instead of Ayton.

[lightningrodman]

Step 1: Bobby to Dallas for #10

Step 2: #10 to Golden State for Kuminga and #19

Step 3: Jrue/Allen to Knicks, Barrett/Kuminga/picks to Toronto, Thad Young/pick to Washington, IQ/Hartenstein/OG/Delon Wright to Milwaukee

Step 4: Profit

I like the Dal/GS/Mke idea. Who says no?

MKE: Kuminga, #19
Dal: Portis
GS: McGee, #10

Looks great to me? I’m not a believer in Kuminga but I think he’s still a decent trade chip.

[Chessboxer]

I'm a fan Jrue , however what concerns me is that he's openly discussed retirement in the near future. There's a saying in boxing that when you think about retirement, you're already retired.

[Baddy Chuck]

I said I thought Beal was very overrated the other day. Seeing teams balk at trading Tyler Herro or getting him for Landry Shamet is making me rethink that. Contract stinks though.

[ReasonablySober]

I think Beal or No Beal would've been another great option here, MD.

I can't believe anyone questioned why I boo'd.

[Coach Carter]

Say what you will but durant booker and biel makes one hell of a big 3 expensive but good add ayton to that n wow

Don't think Beal improves them. Just another dude waiting his turn on offense. Who's defending on that team?

As for Miami, I mean they have Hero who offers a similar skill set. Miami need to get bigger, thus Ayton makes more sense for them.

Where's Beal to the Bucks makes a lot of sense. Finally we upgrade the SG position but we also acquire a guard that can create his own offense. Wizards rid themselves of the Beal contract that could eventually become one of the worst in the league. They acquire Jrue who is coming off a good regular season. Jrue has 2 + 1 years left, KP 1 + 1, thus they can start a nice rebuild.

[worthlessBucks]

Watching Booker and Durant just take turns iso’ing every other possession was definitely a low point in playoff basketball viewing. No concept of team play. Adding Beal to that dynamic, at his price, doesn’t really change my view of that Suns team unless Vogel gets them back into a team concept.

[humanrefutation]

I don't think Miami will cash in their chips for Beal when Dame can be had.

[buckboy]

I said I thought Beal was very overrated the other day. Seeing teams balk at trading Tyler Herro or getting him for Landry Shamet is making me rethink that. Contract stinks though.

Washington should be thrilled just to dump Beal for expirings.

Anything they get after that is a bonus.

[Serge28]

Pass. Would rather focus the efforts on re-signing our guys and running it back.

[raferfenix]

The 2nd apron stuff could be an even bigger change than we’ve realized if the Lakers of all teams is so concerned about it.

True contenders might bite the bullet. However this is where a seriously underpaid contributor like Bobby might have their value balloon past where it was (to the Bucks too).

Also where a guy like Middleton might not be getting the offers he was expecting and taking a deal significantly under max or opting into the last year of $40 million could be a thing.

Woj did not directly address the Kyrie Irving rumors, but he made it abundantly clear that he just doesn’t see a world wherein the Lakers can afford another big-money contract, given their current salary cap restrictions: “There’s no big game hunting out there for this Laker organization,” Woj said. “In this league right now, with a new collective bargaining agreement, you can’t really pay three max superstars and expect to have any depth on your roster.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-woj-on-lakers-big-game-hunting-amid-kyrie-irving-links

[German Athens]

I’d be pretty gutted if there ends up being this big player movement off-season of significant offensive players, and we end up trying to convince ourselves that kennard will bring us a title (it could! And it would be a very nice add).

I value Jrue quite a bit, but I also feel strongly that he’s the one that needs to net us a haul. It’s not getting rid of him for the sake of it - I just want to see this team with another perimeter creator alongside Khris that will holdup offensively in the playoffs.

The biggest singular advantage in basketball is when you have an offensive player that the opposing team can’t do anything with. We saw this in the finals with Giannis. Adding a third player who can competently take over on offense, and play within actions alongside Giannis and Khris would do us wonders. In Giannis’s entire time in Milwaukee we’ve never had that - I think it’s about time to see what that team would look like.

[German Athens]

The 2nd apron stuff could be an even bigger change than we’ve realized if the Lakers of all teams is so concerned about it.

True contenders might bite the bullet. However this is where a seriously underpaid contributor like Bobby might have their value balloon past where it was (to the Bucks too).

Also where a guy like Middleton might not be getting the offers he was expecting and taking a deal significantly under max or opting into the last year of $40 million could be a thing.

Woj did not directly address the Kyrie Irving rumors, but he made it abundantly clear that he just doesn’t see a world wherein the Lakers can afford another big-money contract, given their current salary cap restrictions: “There’s no big game hunting out there for this Laker organization,” Woj said. “In this league right now, with a new collective bargaining agreement, you can’t really pay three max superstars and expect to have any depth on your roster.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-woj-on-lakers-big-game-hunting-amid-kyrie-irving-links

I’ve said this before, but I think there may be a rush for teams to stay under that second apron, but the contenders who keep their cores intact and kinda throw caution to the wind will be better for it.

I don’t actually believe moving your firsts to the end of the round, being incapable of trading your picks 7 years out, and only being able to use min salaries will matter all that much to teams already established as contenders.

Just think, for some teams who want to get under the second apron, they’ll have to get rid of rotation players, but for what purpose? So they can then use their mid-level exception to get a rotation player? Hang onto talent, because other teams are about to shed theirs.

[raferfenix]

I just want to see this team with another perimeter creator alongside Khris that will holdup offensively in the playoffs.

Question is whether we really need to trade Jrue to accomplish this.

Quickley, Hield, Bogdan and Rozier could all be available for a Portis-based package at least in theory.

Alternatively sending Holiday out in that kind of deal could net us a ton of other assets in addition. Whether we could get a significantly better creator like a Dejounte Murray (or if IQ just isn’t available for less than Jrue) then becomes the question.

[Frank Nova]

Watching Booker and Durant just take turns iso’ing every other possession was definitely a low point in playoff basketball viewing. No concept of team play. Adding Beal to that dynamic, at his price, doesn’t really change my view of that Suns team unless Vogel gets them back into a team concept.

The lack of complimentary basketball those 2 showed was awful. The redundancy of adding a player like Beal will offer nothing in terms of value when faced up against a real basketball team like Denver, and possibly even Sacramento who will be a year older/stronger/wiser and will likely make a move to improve their team as well..

Plus I really hope Washington doesn’t just completely roll over and let Beal dictate this whole charade. Force him to stay and play if the return isn’t satisfactory. Paul and Shamet is an absolute joke, atleast Ayton is another future asset you can later cash in. Cap space is useless when you’re a team with a coach no one cares to play for and a roster no one cares to play with. You can get big money anywhere nowadays in the league. It’s turning into a joke quite frankly but that’s just the truth of it…

Vogel is a great defensive coach so giving him 3 iso stars could work I guess but I’ll believe it when I see it. Vogel is also a low quality offensive philosophy style coach so there’s that too. It will be interesting none the less…

Beal would be better off in Milwaukee or Miami and hopefully Miami misses on Dame too. We don’t need that happening either.

[JayMKE]

The money and age issues are why one of or both of Jrue or Khris need to be moved, I maintain the idea of giving Jrue a reduced role on offense by bumping him up to the 2 so he can sit in the corner watching until its his turn to iso is just a waste of money. Jrue is not a reliable player on offense, putting him at the 2 doesn't change that. He got humiliated by Jimmy, Jrue aint a wing defender either even his ego might think he is. People are screaming move Portis because he's not a playoff guy, neither is Jrue!

Get a PG, get a 3&D guard for way cheaper + a bunch of other assets, set it up so Giannis won't be forced to walk in 2 years because the plan right now seems to be blow our wad so completely & pray that Giannis is such a sentimentalist after winning another championship hopefully that he'll agree to stay with a franchise that gave up on building for the future for many years and has no assets going forward.

ITS OVER! MOVE ON! This team needs to stop trying to win the 2018 NBA championship, its 2023.

Get younger and cheaper NOW or ELSE

[MickeyDavis]

I don't think Miami will cash in their chips for Beal when Dame can be had.

This is exactly why it's being reported Washington is trying to move fast. Portland right now is trying to move #3 for a vet(s) to try to still build something around Dame. When/if that fails Dame will be moved. Wizards know that teams would rather have Dame and the market for Beal goes down.

[paulpressey25]

I don't think Miami will cash in their chips for Beal when Dame can be had.

This is exactly why it's being reported Washington is trying to move fast. Portland right now is trying to move #3 for a vet(s) to try to still build something around Dame. When/if that fails Dame will be moved. Wizards know that teams would rather have Dame and the market for Beal goes down.

But if I’m Washington, I think this point I’d play it like the Packers did with the Jets. If Beal is telling me that he’ll only go to Phoenix, and that I can’t get Ayton in return, I’d tell Beal he’s playing in DC this fall.

[barbados73]

The money and age issues are why one of or both of Jrue or Khris need to be moved, I maintain the idea of giving Jrue a reduced role on offense by bumping him up to the 2 so he can sit in the corner watching until its his turn to iso is just a waste of money. Jrue is not a reliable player on offense, putting him at the 2 doesn't change that. He got humiliated by Jimmy, Jrue aint a wing defender either even his ego might think he is. People are screaming move Portis because he's not a playoff guy, neither is Jrue!

Get a PG, get a 3&D guard for way cheaper + a bunch of other assets, set it up so Giannis won't be forced to walk in 2 years because the plan right now seems to be blow our wad so completely & pray that Giannis is such a sentimentalist after winning another championship hopefully that he'll agree to stay with a franchise that gave up on building for the future for many years and has no assets going forward.

ITS OVER! MOVE ON! This team needs to stop trying to win the 2018 NBA championship, its 2023.

Get younger and cheaper NOW or ELSE

This is my thought exactly! The Bucks cannot afford to tie their future to a 35y.o. center, a 33y.o. PG/SG, and a 31y.o small forward with questionable health/fitness. The Bucks need to take this offseason to retool the team for the next run. Sticking with the current team is high risk/low reward and I don't really want to watch Giannis walk because the Bucks end up having Jrue retire and being stuck with overpaid/underperforming Middleton and Lopez.