What makes sense for Herro?

[Beenie]

They are after a SF not a expensive 6th man combo guard. It doesn't take much logic to look at their roster and see that Herro would be low priority add for them.

Not a Herro fan, I take take it.

Herro would start for Ind as was the case all of last season for Mia.

He’s better than Durte now and has a higher ceiling than him as well, is why they would conceivably have interest.

Mathurin.

Future forward, I reckon

[Kalamazoo317]

Not interested as a Detroit fan.

[orlando_joe]

cross magic off not paying that contract giving a lottery pick and tpe i really would not take him for pick 36 and a couple more 2nds even magic in no hurry take bpa and stay flexible
a lottery pick ,anthony and bol..good luck with that

sorry that package was quoted from a person in your own teams thread...

This dude is a laugh. 99% Magic fans would take that deal. We’ve got Cap space and Herro would be about as good of player we could get for a few years.

i bet closer to 10 % ..more would take simons for less ...sign gtj for less money no assets..and then i would rather just draft bpa at 6 and 11 keep harris ,fultz,suggs ,anthony and a drafted guard for yr and roll into next summer with ton of cap space after seeing if any of them step up and take job ..or fill hole then with maybe a bane or any other guard that may come available or use asset then stay flexible and not skip step

[MartinsIzAfraud]

sorry that package was quoted from a person in your own teams thread...

This dude is a laugh. 99% Magic fans would take that deal. We’ve got Cap space and Herro would be about as good of player we could get for a few years.

i bet closer to 10 % ..more would take simons for less ...sign gtj for less money no assets..and then i would rather just draft bpa at 6 and 11 keep harris ,fultz,suggs ,anthony and a drafted guard for yr and roll into next summer with ton of cap space after seeing if any of them step up and take job ..or fill hole then with maybe a bane or any other guard that may come available or use asset then stay flexible and not skip step

Draft BPA at 6 waive Gary Harris 13M or move him at draft might.

Cole will want out if he’s not a starter so here you get a perfect 2 guard to pair with Fultz. You cannot go into this year with 5 guards 4 of them needing proper time to develop. That’s a recipe for disaster and way to misuse an asset.

Fultz
Herro
Franz
Banchero
WCJ

Bench- Suggs, 6th pick (Ausar, Hendricks, Black) FA, 36th pick, Goga, FA.

That’s a sexy ass roster with room to grown. Can clear more space next year once Isaac only plays 20-30 games. Show another 10+ win improvement make play ins and maybe attract that star to come play with Franz Banchero Herro and pieces.

Different strokes for different folks all good.

[TheShow2021]

If Miami gets Beal and look for another team to take Herro, I wonder who would be interested?

Heat likely want a PG or a PF, cost controlled players, or future picks


Charlotte- to fit between Ball and Brandon Miller? - Maybe Hayward, Martin and a pick for Herro/Duncan?
Orlando- Needs a scoring guard - Herro for 11, Anthony, Bol/Okeke?
Minnesota- Can he play w Edwards?
Raptors? - Can't see them wanting him - Herro and a pick for OG and Thad?
Pistons - In between Jaden/Cade - Herro for Bojan, Stewart and a pick?
Grizzlies? - when Ja comes back you have Ja/Herro/Bane

Would love to see some potential deals

Herro is a negative value contract and doesn't make any sense on a non contending team unless they get draft compensation for his taking him on.

[ThaFranchize84]

To me a deal that would be interesting if the Heat get Beal is Herro and Dipo for Sexton and Kelly Olynyk. Sexton would fit really well next to Beal and screams Heat Culture. KO comes back and is a really great fit next to Bam. This deal also saves the Heat $8 million and it could feasible get them below the second tax apron.

Danny Ainge was very interested in Herro during the draft. Utah can draft one of the top PG and Herro would be a great go to scorer next to Lauri and Kessler.


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[orlando_joe]

This dude is a laugh. 99% Magic fans would take that deal. We’ve got Cap space and Herro would be about as good of player we could get for a few years.

i bet closer to 10 % ..more would take simons for less ...sign gtj for less money no assets..and then i would rather just draft bpa at 6 and 11 keep harris ,fultz,suggs ,anthony and a drafted guard for yr and roll into next summer with ton of cap space after seeing if any of them step up and take job ..or fill hole then with maybe a bane or any other guard that may come available or use asset then stay flexible and not skip step

Draft BPA at 6 waive Gary Harris 13M or move him at draft might.

Cole will want out if he’s not a starter so here you get a perfect 2 guard to pair with Fultz. You cannot go into this year with 5 guards 4 of them needing proper time to develop. That’s a recipe for disaster and way to misuse an asset.

Fultz
Herro
Franz
Banchero
WCJ

Bench- Suggs, 6th pick (Ausar, Hendricks, Black) FA, 36th pick, Goga, FA.

That’s a sexy ass roster with room to grown. Can clear more space next year once Isaac only plays 20-30 games. Show another 10+ win improvement make play ins and maybe attract that star to come play with Franz Banchero Herro and pieces.

Different strokes for different folks all good.

i dont have problem trading one of the guards if magic take one in draft just dont want to just give anthony away ..and need to see what magic are thinking they could go with hendricks and dick thats more pf/sf and just roll with guards they have till trade deadline or next summer based on better fit..if suggs and anthony step up could go fultz as backup just not sure and want to keep options open right now ...hero is known as very bad defender i just dont like fit and money not worth lottery pick and anthony to me

[HeatIn5]

If Miami gets Beal and look for another team to take Herro, I wonder who would be interested?

Heat likely want a PG or a PF, cost controlled players, or future picks


Charlotte- to fit between Ball and Brandon Miller? - Maybe Hayward, Martin and a pick for Herro/Duncan?
Orlando- Needs a scoring guard - Herro for 11, Anthony, Bol/Okeke?
Minnesota- Can he play w Edwards?
Raptors? - Can't see them wanting him - Herro and a pick for OG and Thad?
Pistons - In between Jaden/Cade - Herro for Bojan, Stewart and a pick?
Grizzlies? - when Ja comes back you have Ja/Herro/Bane

Would love to see some potential deals

Herro is a negative value contract and doesn't make any sense on a non contending team unless they get draft compensation for his taking him on.

He’s 23 and averaged 20 pts a game this year. Impossible to be negative value.

[Godaddycurse]

Randle?

[the_process]

Herro will go to WSH with Robinson for Beal IMO.

WSH can then feature him for a year and let him put up LaVine-esque numbers, tank, and try to sell high next summer.

[mg]

If Miami gets Beal and look for another team to take Herro, I wonder who would be interested?

Heat likely want a PG or a PF, cost controlled players, or future picks


Charlotte- to fit between Ball and Brandon Miller? - Maybe Hayward, Martin and a pick for Herro/Duncan?
Orlando- Needs a scoring guard - Herro for 11, Anthony, Bol/Okeke?
Minnesota- Can he play w Edwards?
Raptors? - Can't see them wanting him - Herro and a pick for OG and Thad?
Pistons - In between Jaden/Cade - Herro for Bojan, Stewart and a pick?
Grizzlies? - when Ja comes back you have Ja/Herro/Bane

Would love to see some potential deals

Herro is a negative value contract and doesn't make any sense on a non contending team unless they get draft compensation for his taking him on.

He’s 23 and averaged 20 pts a game this year. Impossible to be negative value.

I like Herro but in the context of the new CBA he's a bit overpaid which is going to eat into his value. Giving him that $125 mil extension seems a bit shortsighted now. The Warriors made the same mistake with Poole last year. I can see other combo guards such as Rozier and Simons on the trade block so the market might be saturated for his archetype.

[oldncreaky]

Not a Herro fan, I take take it.

Herro would start for Ind as was the case all of last season for Mia.

He’s better than Durte now and has a higher ceiling than him as well, is why they would conceivably have interest.

Mathurin.

Future forward, I reckon

Indy guards: Hali, Mathurin, Nembhard, McConnell, Heild

They're set at guard next year with those 5. Great value for money too. As a Pistons/Raptors fan, I'd take at least Hali, Mathurin and Nembhard over Herro, and McConnell and Hield are good value contracts who fit better on a cap sheet.

[Scoot McGroot]

Charlotte as a suitor is interesting.

I think the name that would fill a need and excite these boards is PJ Washington.

A Washington and Rozier package for Herro and filler is considerable.

I like Indiana as suitor if Mia is committed to going all in this upcoming season.

The Turner/Hield/McConnell package for Herro, whichever between Dipo/Duncan that’s not traded for Beal, and filler would check the size, rim protection, elite shooting, and competent ball handling boxes in one swoop.

Sounds great for Miami but why would Indy do anything like this? There already have a guard they like to develop at sg.

They might have zero interest in Herro for all I know.

Conversely they might like him a lot.

What seems legit is that they are willing to move both Turner and Hield for the right price and are rumored to be coveting wing players.

BIG wing players. Indy has interest in BIG wing players. Guys that can defend the 3/4. They’re not interested in bad long term contracts or guys that are injured and out for another season (and that have already asked to leave Indy before).

But that doesn’t help that Indy has one playable big man at the 4/5, and would be dealing him for another SG. I guess Indy would play Herro at the 4 after this? Nesmith at the 5?

But also, Myles should have more value than Herro. At least, to Indy, he does.

To be fair, that offer you suggested is amazing for Miami. It solves a ton of their problems, and at great value. It makes less than no sense for Indy. It opens up problems. It doesn’t solve any. And they pay extra value to do so.


IF Indy sees Mathurin as a 3, and IF Indy has interest in Herro, I could see an offer centered around Buddy/26/29 for Herro, more likely as part of a 3 team deal where the other team wants an expiring instead of Herro’s long term deal. I can’t see Indy offering up too much more. Not with Haliburton, Nembhard, Buddy, Mathurin, McConnell, Nesmith, and Duarte at the positions that Herro would play.

[Residual-Heat]

Im with Orlando Joe on this, save the asset, sign one of GTJ or Austin Reaves in FA. Draft a player at 11, possibly Coulibaly.

[Beenie]

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Sounds great for Miami but why would Indy do anything like this? There already have a guard they like to develop at sg.

They might have zero interest in Herro for all I know.

Conversely they might like him a lot.

What seems legit is that they are willing to move both Turner and Hield for the right price and are rumored to be coveting wing players.

BIG wing players. Indy has interest in BIG wing players. Guys that can defend the 3/4. They’re not interested in bad long term contracts or guys that are injured and out for another season (and that have already asked to leave Indy before).

But that doesn’t help that Indy has one playable big man at the 4/5, and would be dealing him for another SG. I guess Indy would play Herro at the 4 after this? Nesmith at the 5?

But also, Myles should have more value than Herro. At least, to Indy, he does.

To be fair, that offer you suggested is amazing for Miami. It solves a ton of their problems, and at great value. It makes less than no sense for Indy. It opens up problems. It doesn’t solve any. And they pay extra value to do so.


IF Indy sees Mathurin as a 3, and IF Indy has interest in Herro, I could see an offer centered around Buddy/26/29 for Herro, more likely as part of a 3 team deal where the other team wants an expiring instead of Herro’s long term deal. I can’t see Indy offering up too much more. Not with Haliburton, Nembhard, Buddy, Mathurin, McConnell, Nesmith, and Duarte at the positions that Herro would play.

This hypothetical is a secondary domino presuming that Mia and Wash are able to finalize a deal involving Beal and depending on the outcome of that deal, the remaining players and picks who aren't shipped away would be potentially flipped in this deal as the "filler" that I was alluding to.

Caleb Martin, Jovic, and Highsmith represent those pieces and some mix n match of 1 or 2 of them coupled with Herro and the either Dipo or Duncan (whoever is retained in the Beal trade) would round out the proposal to make the money work.

[jayjaysee]

If Herro has the value I think he does, swap him for DFS. Use Joe Harris and HH/etc from Miami to make salaries work if Dipo is a wizard.

Covington, Mann, and bones?

Really don’t know how to value herro though.

[gambitx777]

You can play hero with Beal. Jimmy has the ball in his hands a lot anyway. The two of them can handle the ball well enough. Why not just put up numbers.

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[HotelVitale]

You can play hero with Beal. Jimmy has the ball in his hands a lot anyway. The two of them can handle the ball well enough. Why not just put up numbers.

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Think the premise of the thread is that the 3 of them together will make $130m in 2024. And only one of them is likely to make an AS team.

cross magic off not paying that contract giving a lottery pick and tpe i really would not take him for pick 36 and a couple more 2nds even magic in no hurry take bpa and stay flexible
a lottery pick ,anthony and bol..good luck with that

sorry that package was quoted from a person in your own teams thread...

This dude is a laugh. 99% Magic fans would take that deal. We’ve got Cap space and Herro would be about as good of player we could get for a few years.

Really, you’d give up your pick AND take him into your cap space with zero hesitation? I’m not totally opposed to it but it at least seems like a tough tough call, something you might talk yourself into if you had to but not the start of your negotiation. Feels to me like it’s one or the other, take him directly into cap space and absorb the $30m/season or else give the pick and some expiring that wouldn’t lose you your cap space.

[HotelVitale]

If Miami gets Beal and look for another team to take Herro, I wonder who would be interested?

Heat likely want a PG or a PF, cost controlled players, or future picks


Charlotte- to fit between Ball and Brandon Miller? - Maybe Hayward, Martin and a pick for Herro/Duncan?
Orlando- Needs a scoring guard - Herro for 11, Anthony, Bol/Okeke?
Minnesota- Can he play w Edwards?
Raptors? - Can't see them wanting him - Herro and a pick for OG and Thad?
Pistons - In between Jaden/Cade - Herro for Bojan, Stewart and a pick?
Grizzlies? - when Ja comes back you have Ja/Herro/Bane

Would love to see some potential deals

Herro is a negative value contract and doesn't make any sense on a non contending team unless they get draft compensation for his taking him on.

He’s 23 and averaged 20 pts a game this year. Impossible to be negative value.

Eh you know that says nothing on its own. Kevin Porter scored almost the same as Herro and is 22, THT is same age and scored 20 per 36 and could probably get to 20 if he got starters minutes. Neither of those players would have positive trade value if they were making $30m+ per season for years to come.

Herro is better than them but it’s not obvious what his value is, can’t just assume 20ppg = instant max contract.

[Scoot McGroot]

They might have zero interest in Herro for all I know.

Conversely they might like him a lot.

What seems legit is that they are willing to move both Turner and Hield for the right price and are rumored to be coveting wing players.

BIG wing players. Indy has interest in BIG wing players. Guys that can defend the 3/4. They’re not interested in bad long term contracts or guys that are injured and out for another season (and that have already asked to leave Indy before).

But that doesn’t help that Indy has one playable big man at the 4/5, and would be dealing him for another SG. I guess Indy would play Herro at the 4 after this? Nesmith at the 5?

But also, Myles should have more value than Herro. At least, to Indy, he does.

To be fair, that offer you suggested is amazing for Miami. It solves a ton of their problems, and at great value. It makes less than no sense for Indy. It opens up problems. It doesn’t solve any. And they pay extra value to do so.


IF Indy sees Mathurin as a 3, and IF Indy has interest in Herro, I could see an offer centered around Buddy/26/29 for Herro, more likely as part of a 3 team deal where the other team wants an expiring instead of Herro’s long term deal. I can’t see Indy offering up too much more. Not with Haliburton, Nembhard, Buddy, Mathurin, McConnell, Nesmith, and Duarte at the positions that Herro would play.

This hypothetical is a secondary domino presuming that Mia and Wash are able to finalize a deal involving Beal and depending on the outcome of that deal, the remaining players and picks who aren't shipped away would be potentially flipped in this deal as the "filler" that I was alluding to.

Caleb Martin, Jovic, and Highsmith represent those pieces and some mix n match of 1 or 2 of them coupled with Herro and the either Dipo or Duncan (whoever is retained in the Beal trade) would round out the proposal to make the money work.

For Indy, the absolute base idea of Myles for Herro makes little sense. The reworking/filler of it doesn't really help.

But also, are you then saying that, if Herro is in Washington, Myles would then be going to Washington in a follow up trade? I'm not following how you're separating it, but connecting them.