Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back

[MettaWorldPanda]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

[DayofMourning]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

HI5 has traded him to Orlando for the 11th pick and players.

[AirP.]

It's times like this when you need keep calm and don't panic, I trust Riley.

Suns have ZERO, ZILCH, NO ASSETS TO GIVE UP.

This means, us offering #18 this year > ANYTHING THE SUNS CAN OFFER.

There's no reason to think Beal would block a trade to Miami.
There's no reason to think the Wizards would accept a deal with Suns when they can get a better deal from us. No reason to go into a bidding war against a team that has nothing to offer expet for expirings.

I wouldn't budge. If Beal wants to be here, it should get done by simply giving up Lowry + Duncan/Dipo + #18 this year.

Keep Jovic, I think he's potential is much higher then most think. he can become a big factor for this team as soon as next year.

Ugh...
You're not getting it at all, let's go with your #18 idea.
If Washington were to get CP3 and Shamet they have the ability to cut 30 NEXT YEAR. With this and other possible moves, Washington could be in a situation like OKC and somewhat what Utah recently did to take on a bad salary for assets... say a future 1st round pick far enough in the future when it's possible that team is bad, really bad and now you're looking at a lottery pick, maybe something near the top of the draft vs that #18.

It's crazy that people keep just looking at the trade assets vs what that team can actually do with those trade assets to make their team better. They need to tank and they need as many top of the draft swings during this time as possible, Miami doesn't have a real ability since they try to compete each year to give that to them, they can do it for themselves or they can trade with an organization who my completely age out and just be bad. When you go into a rebuild you want as many swings at top level talent as you can, and that means more draft picks that potentially be at the top of the draft.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Stupid move by Beal if he really wants to go to West just to get blasted again by the Nuggets.

His path is easier with the Heat but we'll know in the coming days if he is indeed the Bus driver or just a dude who just wants to hop in and play.

Beal, KD, and Book would be pretty damn formidable imo

It is really is Bish but the West is no joke. The path to the finals there would be 2x as hard as always.

You got Denver, the up-and-coming Thunder, Warriors that is still relevant, the Lakers with a bit of retooling could be good too, and the Mavs could also wake up from this.

East is open wide as ever next season.

I don’t agree with this take that the East is 2x easier than the West. Outside of the Nuggets what juggernauts do they have? And a major reason they beat us was injury to Jimmy Herro and Dipo.

We had the 2 best teams in the league in the East, the 3rd seed in the East would’ve been 1st in the west. This isn’t the 2000s anymore where you had to win 50 games in the West to make the playoffs

[AirP.]

Beal, KD, and Book would be pretty damn formidable imo

It is really is Bish but the West is no joke. The path to the finals there would be 2x as hard as always.

You got Denver, the up-and-coming Thunder, Warriors that is still relevant, the Lakers with a bit of retooling could be good too, and the Mavs could also wake up from this.

East is open wide as ever next season.

I don’t agree with this take that the East is 2x easier than the West. Outside of the Nuggets what juggernauts do they have? And a major reason they beat us was injury to Jimmy Herro and Dipo.

We had the 2 best teams in the league in the East, the 3rd seed in the East would’ve been 1st in the west. This isn’t the 2000s anymore where you had to win 50 games in the West to make the playoffs

Where the hell have you been? Towns has put the whole league on notice.

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And this is the difference between Butler and Towns. For a fanbase without championship aspirations this is the type of player mindset that they're good with. It's what Butler complained about in Minnesota, Towns just cares about his numbers.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

It is really is Bish but the West is no joke. The path to the finals there would be 2x as hard as always.

You got Denver, the up-and-coming Thunder, Warriors that is still relevant, the Lakers with a bit of retooling could be good too, and the Mavs could also wake up from this.

East is open wide as ever next season.

I don’t agree with this take that the East is 2x easier than the West. Outside of the Nuggets what juggernauts do they have? And a major reason they beat us was injury to Jimmy Herro and Dipo.

We had the 2 best teams in the league in the East, the 3rd seed in the East would’ve been 1st in the west. This isn’t the 2000s anymore where you had to win 50 games in the West to make the playoffs

Where the hell have you been? Towns has put the whole league on notice.

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What a clown

[dean456]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

I saw Trillie post this.

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I could definitely see it play out this way and we get one of those teams involved in a 3 way deal to get some additional assets and cap relief for Herro.

I feel like it makes too much sense for SA. They have no SG, 45mil cap space, 14 future FRPs and 17 2nds, they got Wemby coming in and Herro's contract would line up with both Wemby and Keldon Johnson's 4yr deals before Wemby's extension, so wouldn't negatively impact their flexibility to build around Wemby if they decide to go a different route.

[Vertical Limit]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

I think the idea is to keep herro from that specific trade but then trade him to another team to fill out the rest of the roster.

[AirP.]

Anyone eyeing Myles Turner might want to look elsewhere. He wasn't happy playing with Sabonis but he's gone now and a good number of Indiana's best lineup combinations have him and Haliburton in them, some a pretty big number per 100 possessions.

For example, the 4 man unit of...
Haliburton, Turner, Nesmith and Mathurin +14.9 points per 100 possessions.

I never understood why nobody really went after a center who can shot block and hit 3s at a good rate in this current era, maybe it's his obsession with Legos?

[RexBoyWonder]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

I somewhat agree, but a case can be made that with the right starters around them, they can play next to eachother.

Herro
Beal
Jimmy
OG
Bam

OG guards the opposing PG, Herro guards the SG, Beal guards the SF, Jimmy guards the PF.

[dean456]

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Here's an interesting post I hadn't seen.

Beal only going to accept to go to PHX if the package is CP3 and Shamat's 3yr 10mil deal.

Kinda feels like we should have this locked up with Lowry, Robinson, FRP and a swap or maybe less.

Washington would be dumb to take PHX's deal just to save 15mil and not get any assets back for Beal.

[ShulaDon92]

The LaMelo odyssey... Trade herro for Lamelo straight up.

Lamelo/Vincent
Strus/Duncan
Butler/Caleb
Jovic/Love
BAM/Highsmith

-SHULA

[AirP.]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

I somewhat agree, but a case can be made that with the right starters around them, they can play next to eachother.

Herro
Beal
Jimmy
OG
Bam

OG guards the opposing PG, Herro guards the SG, Beal guards the SF, Jimmy guards the PF.

Why? Bam is starting to shoot more, OG wants to shoot more, Beal and Herro want unlimited shots, toss in the bench would be bad and the back court would let 12ppg guys get nearly 20 on the other team, it's a really bad idea and you're going to end up with some unhappy players.

Miami needs to stay with it's tough defense and turn one of the minimum starters who shots 3 into a proven scoring vet in the playoffs so they can count on their production in the biggest games. Beal does that for Miami, Dame would do that also but he's currently not available. Please... don't let Miami have another 2022 summer where they end up getting stuck on player and end up hurting their team in the long run by not addressing other issues while not getting the guy they're chasing.... hence possibly letting a real shot at a championship slip through their hands.

[HEATVols865]

I knew that Herro extension was a bad deal…


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[3ammy3uck3ts]

The LaMelo odyssey... Trade herro for Lamelo straight up.

Lamelo/Vincent
Strus/Duncan
Butler/Caleb
Jovic/Love
BAM/Highsmith

-SHULA

Hornets say no

[MettaWorldPanda]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

I somewhat agree, but a case can be made that with the right starters around them, they can play next to eachother.

Herro
Beal
Jimmy
OG
Bam

OG guards the opposing PG, Herro guards the SG, Beal guards the SF, Jimmy guards the PF.

Why is OG mentioned in our starting lineup when we have like little to no chance at getting him? Are you talking about UD coming back?

[ShulaDon92]

The LaMelo odyssey... Trade herro for Lamelo straight up.

Lamelo/Vincent
Strus/Duncan
Butler/Caleb
Jovic/Love
BAM/Highsmith

-SHULA

Hornets say no

Dang. Herro could cook there

-leSHULA

[RexBoyWonder]

The notion of Herro coexisting on this team with Beal makes absolute no sense. Just like Beal joining the Suns makes no sense. Easy to say Herro can just come off the bench but that’s almost 80 plus million tied up in one position. How is that smart use of the salary cap?

I somewhat agree, but a case can be made that with the right starters around them, they can play next to eachother.

Herro
Beal
Jimmy
OG
Bam

OG guards the opposing PG, Herro guards the SG, Beal guards the SF, Jimmy guards the PF.

Why is OG mentioned in our starting lineup when we have like little to no chance at getting him? Are you talking about UD coming back?

You can use Highsmith, the point was that if you get a big wing/PF that can really defend PGs, Beal and Herro might be able to coexsit.

If it was up to me, I'd move Herro for the Orlando Package. Or for the best PF available.

[AirP.]

For as good as LeMelo is, just say no, something bad is going to happen with him with as reckless as he is.

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