Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[ItsDanger]

There's a risk where teams just don't want to deal with Masai/Bobby for various reason(s). It happens in other industries so why not NBA. If nothing happens, this possibility must be considered.

[Bruin]

Ok fine, but what are you willing to add to Siakam to get Scoot? Because #3 for Siakam isn’t something Portland would (or should) agree to.

We’re not adding anything. There should be no reason to add to an All NBA talent in his prime for a #3 pick

We want this deal to happen but let’s not get delusional and undervalue pascal so much. He’d be a massive addition for Portland and Dame

If Pascal was 26 and had 3+ years on his deal, 3 for Pascal would be fair. But a generational PG prospect is not getting moved straight up for a 29 year old expiring contract. And yeah, he made all nba 2nd team 3 years ago, but he’s not considered a top 20 player in the nba anymore. You sound like Masai.

And All NBA 3rd team just a year ago

We’re not adding assets to Pascal for a 3rd pick. If anything, Portland might need to add #23 or a future FRP

[Bruin]

Something like this could be interesting as a framework

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[raf1995]

We’re not adding anything. There should be no reason to add to an All NBA talent in his prime for a #3 pick

We want this deal to happen but let’s not get delusional and undervalue pascal so much. He’d be a massive addition for Portland and Dame

If Pascal was 26 and had 3+ years on his deal, 3 for Pascal would be fair. But a generational PG prospect is not getting moved straight up for a 29 year old expiring contract. And yeah, he made all nba 2nd team 3 years ago, but he’s not considered a top 20 player in the nba anymore. You sound like Masai.

And All NBA 3rd team just a year ago

We’re not adding assets to Pascal for a 3rd pick. If anything, Portland might need to add #23 or a future FRP

So basically you don’t want to trade Pascal. Got it.

[Bruin]

If Pascal was 26 and had 3+ years on his deal, 3 for Pascal would be fair. But a generational PG prospect is not getting moved straight up for a 29 year old expiring contract. And yeah, he made all nba 2nd team 3 years ago, but he’s not considered a top 20 player in the nba anymore. You sound like Masai.

And All NBA 3rd team just a year ago

We’re not adding assets to Pascal for a 3rd pick. If anything, Portland might need to add #23 or a future FRP

So basically you don’t want to trade Pascal. Got it.

No, I’m just not stupid. I want Pascal traded for the 3rd pick as much as anyone. But I’m not gonna be dumb and pay any price to make it happen

[Bruin]

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[raf1995]

And All NBA 3rd team just a year ago

We’re not adding assets to Pascal for a 3rd pick. If anything, Portland might need to add #23 or a future FRP

So basically you don’t want to trade Pascal. Got it.

No, I’m just not stupid. I want Pascal traded for the 3rd pick as much as anyone. But I’m not gonna be dumb and pay any price to make it happen

The equation is pretty clear. Siakam isn’t a #1 option on a championship team. He is a 2 or 3. Therefore, any prospect deemed to have #1 upside is worth more, especially given than the #2 option in question is going to be 30 next year on an expiring deal.

[HangTime]

Raptors get- Lowry, Little, #3(POR), #8(WAS)

Blazers get- Pascal, #18(MIA)

Heat get- Beal

Wizards get- Simons, Jovic, Martin, #13(TOR), #23 (POR)

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Masai seems to have built the same kind of rep for overvaluing his players that Ainge did in Boston. Which is fine when you can find a desperate team willing to make a deal, but those deals a lot harder to come by.

[KrazyP]

I am sure the Blazers prefer Siakam but Masai is waiting for the Blazers to throw more first rounders which is not going to happen. He can always tell our dumb media and Siakam gang bangers that this trade will be available at the deadline but it won't because no team can guarantee top 3 pick and not only do you need to suck bad but you also have to have some luck.

To think in 2 of the 3 seasons that we missed the playoffs we could have both 4th overall and 3rd overall picks. This is just crazy not to have this deal done right now and it's about Masai being to emotionally attached to Siakam who we cannot win with as the top option. Things made never change until Masai is gone and this talk about change seems like more Masai BS

The average top 3 pick turns into a player less than Siakam is now.

If the Raps feel the guy available at #3 this year is screaming franchise potential, you make the trade. If they feel the #3 pick is a bit of a crapshoot like most drafts, then you hold out for more.

We’re not gonna get a better offer than this EVER for Siakam. After this season he’s gonna sign a big extension, will be in his 30’s. Still no where close to actually contending so timelines won’t match. Get the best asset possible now. Getting 3-4 weak first round picks possibly, in the future isn’t better than a guaranteed top 3 pick in a great draft class.

I will go back to my previous point. If the Raps feel the guy available at #3 this year is screaming franchise potential, you make the trade. If they feel the #3 pick is a bit of a crapshoot like most drafts, then you hold out for more.

I'm always uncomfortable with people saying this is a "great draft class". I've heard that line before even for weak drafts. The fact that every team with a pick in the 3-10 range is trying to trade it is alarming to me.

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I wonder what they mean specifically.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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I wonder what they mean specifically.

"Speaking of Anunoby, there is a growing sense among executives who have called the Raptors (albeit with some caution) that Pascal Siakam may be easier to deal with than Anunoby currently. One savvy executive did mention that he felt that was a means to judge market value if and when the Raptors do decide to trade Anunoby. However, it’s fair to say front offices are pretty worn out on the attempts by Toronto to get “blood from a stone” as one executive put it at the deadline in any deal. Multiple sources have described the Raptors as frustrating to deal with. So why keep calling? “There are only 29 teams to work with.”"

[Bruin]

So basically you don’t want to trade Pascal. Got it.

No, I’m just not stupid. I want Pascal traded for the 3rd pick as much as anyone. But I’m not gonna be dumb and pay any price to make it happen

The equation is pretty clear. Siakam isn’t a #1 option on a championship team. He is a 2 or 3. Therefore, any prospect deemed to have #1 upside is worth more, especially given than the #2 option in question is going to be 30 next year on an expiring deal.

Sorry but it’s hard to take you seriously after you suggested Pascal + OG for #3 and #23.

You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about

[ItsDanger]

What it means is that Masai's prices are too high under current market conditions. Going by recent trade rumors at deadlines, this statement shouldn't be surprising to anyone here. Time is short.

[tdotrep2]

hopefully we dont miss out on a good opportunity get great pieces because masai wants a borderline starter/decent pick here or there.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Matt Moore is connected to the Pacers and Pritchard is a loser that whines a lot. So what if Masai doesn't want to give OG away or deal with a guy that leaks everything to the media. Difference between a champ and a serial trader.

[Dude-niagara]

The average top 3 pick turns into a player less than Siakam is now.

If the Raps feel the guy available at #3 this year is screaming franchise potential, you make the trade. If they feel the #3 pick is a bit of a crapshoot like most drafts, then you hold out for more.

We’re not gonna get a better offer than this EVER for Siakam. After this season he’s gonna sign a big extension, will be in his 30’s. Still no where close to actually contending so timelines won’t match. Get the best asset possible now. Getting 3-4 weak first round picks possibly, in the future isn’t better than a guaranteed top 3 pick in a great draft class.

I will go back to my previous point. If the Raps feel the guy available at #3 this year is screaming franchise potential, you make the trade. If they feel the #3 pick is a bit of a crapshoot like most drafts, then you hold out for more.

I'm always uncomfortable with people saying this is a "great draft class". I've heard that line before even for weak drafts. The fact that every team with a pick in the 3-10 range is trying to trade it is alarming to me.

“Multiple sources have described the Raptors as frustrating to deal with.” that was just posted. So I think Masai asks for unreasonable returns because he does not want to trade anyone.

[tdotrep2]

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I wonder what they mean specifically.

my guess is this exec would be from indiana, maybe portland

[LoveMyRaps]

Something like this could be interesting as a framework

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Homer goggles aside:

[ForeverTFC]

Matt Moore is connected to the Pacers and Pritchard is a loser that whines a lot. So what if Masai doesn't want to give OG away or deal with a guy that leaks everything to the media. Difference between a champ and a serial trader.

Thank you for adding the context. I’m sure the usual suspects will just gloss over it though.

There couldn’t possibly be an agenda in leaks at this time the year…