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Jamaaliver wrote:Beal scammed you guys...for years. Just waiting out for the biggest possible contract and no-trade clause -- then forcing his way out with his money and your franchise empty handed.
Your GM should have traded him years ago...
AFM wrote:Look how they massacred my team
The Consiglieri wrote:badinage wrote:And: I really don’t want to hear considered takes on Beal right now.
Maybe in a while, sure.
A couple years.
Not now. This is disgraceful. Absolutely a gutless act against the team that drafted him, developed him, gave him the keys to the franchise, and gave him an insane amount of money (more than a player of his talent should ever have gotten).
Vindictive. Ruthless.
He will get his. I hope he knows that.
Nah, Beal just did what any player does. He did for himself. We've had a billion examples of this. Some of us have been arguing with fans here for nearly half a decade that you had to trade Beal because this was exactly what would happen but the fan base was insanely deluded (some of them) into thinking his love for DC trumped him ever playing for a contender. He wanted the bag and he wanted to win. If we'd ever built a successful team around him, he would've stayed, but that went down the drain in the winter of '18-'19 and for the last four and a half years, the fan base, front office and owners have been living in denial that this wasn't EXACTLY always what was going to happen if he wasn't traded in the '19, '20, '21, or '22 deadlines or offseasons. This was ALWAYS going to happen unless he was traded. We didn't have one chance to avert this, we had EIGHT. We never took action.
This is 100% on us, not on Beal. He's just doing what any player does, taking care of himself. We were the idiot franchise/fan base that stupidly thought he was an exception, AND that it was smarter to keep him, rather than deal him.
Nature is a cruel teacher, if you don't keep your head, you lose it. We lost it by not trading him FOR YEARS.
We are the idiots.
Instead of blaming Beal, just remember this --- damn lesson for once and do the right thing next time. Forty years of this ---- and it feels like the franchise, ownership, and some of the fans still haven't learned a thing.
All of you could teach rings around me about the right prospects and vets to build around, but the way this played out was team building 101 in the NBA, and how some people never saw this coming was and is utterly beyond me. That they blame Beal for it instead of the people that built this house the big bad wolf could blow down in .01 seconds is just confounding to me.
It isn't his fault we were played this way, if you can't see this coming, you shouldn't play the game in the first place, you/we, should just go home, which, btw, is what all fans should do to punish these idiots for now guaranteeing this team will remain irrelevant for fifty or so years instead of just 40-45.
This does not make the wizards a joke. The new front office did all they could. Beal was always gonna have the ability to do this if he wanted too. You would hope he had some respect for the guy who handed him everything! He's a piece of ****. Garbage human. The wizards front office did what they could l, why drag it out it's not gonna change his No trade clause. You can probably put last the suns so they aren't a factor but you just alienate Beal and the agent and cause a messy divorce and that doesn't help us either. It sucks but Beal **** us might as well ride the dick fast and bang out a quicky instead of dragging the **** out for months or seasons.tleikheen wrote:Every podcaster in the NBA is laughing at the Wiz ,an embarrassment of a deal
prime1time wrote:The only good thing is that for the first time in years, the front office has made a legitimate decision about the future of the franchise. I expect we will turn into OKC of the East.
NatP4 wrote:Not only forced Phoenix, but forced us to take the lesser package, and not even get Ayton in return.
Gig18 wrote:prime1time wrote:The only good thing is that for the first time in years, the front office has made a legitimate decision about the future of the franchise. I expect we will turn into OKC of the East.
yeah. the "future."
the bottom...
who knows? maybe they have something up their sleeve with Porzingas. But if down is up, this world has lost its mind...
tecumseh18 wrote:badinage wrote:
May the Suns brazen act fail miserably, and end in dysfunction and implosion.
Feel bad for you guys, but I have good news. The Suns WILL fail miserably. Why they didn't opt for a re-tool around Booker and Bridges will always be a mystery to me. Same for why they did everything they could to minimize DA's trade value, and not try to work a sign and trade for him with the Pacers.
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
The Consiglieri wrote:prime1time wrote:The only good thing is that for the first time in years, the front office has made a legitimate decision about the future of the franchise. I expect we will turn into OKC of the East.
The difference is, OKC maxed assets in trades BEFORE the tank commenced, guaranteeing they'd have young elite players AND a giant collection of picks to rebuild around. We just have some second rounders and our own picks. The only good news in this is that if we play this right, we'll never have to give up a first in the horrid Wall trade. But we won't have 1/4 the assets to play with that OKC had in their rebuild. We just have our own because we were too stupid to start this 4, 3, 2 and 1 year ago.
Nemesis21 wrote:It is absolutely hilarious hearing people still say Embiid has superstar potential.The guy is one injury away from being Greg Oden.
The Consiglieri wrote:badinage wrote:And: I really don’t want to hear considered takes on Beal right now.
Maybe in a while, sure.
A couple years.
Not now. This is disgraceful. Absolutely a gutless act against the team that drafted him, developed him, gave him the keys to the franchise, and gave him an insane amount of money (more than a player of his talent should ever have gotten).
Vindictive. Ruthless.
He will get his. I hope he knows that.
Nah, Beal just did what any player does. He did for himself. We've had a billion examples of this. Some of us have been arguing with fans here for nearly half a decade that you had to trade Beal because this was exactly what would happen but the fan base was insanely deluded (some of them) into thinking his love for DC trumped him ever playing for a contender. He wanted the bag and he wanted to win. If we'd ever built a successful team around him, he would've stayed, but that went down the drain in the winter of '18-'19 and for the last four and a half years, the fan base, front office and owners have been living in denial that this wasn't EXACTLY always what was going to happen if he wasn't traded in the '19, '20, '21, or '22 deadlines or offseasons. This was ALWAYS going to happen unless he was traded. We didn't have one chance to avert this, we had EIGHT. We never took action.
This is 100% on us, not on Beal. He's just doing what any player does, taking care of himself. We were the idiot franchise/fan base that stupidly thought he was an exception, AND that it was smarter to keep him, rather than deal him.
Nature is a cruel teacher, if you don't keep your head, you lose it. We lost it by not trading him FOR YEARS.
We are the idiots.
Instead of blaming Beal, just remember this --- damn lesson for once and do the right thing next time. Forty years of this ---- and it feels like the franchise, ownership, and some of the fans still haven't learned a thing.
All of you could teach rings around me about the right prospects and vets to build around, but the way this played out was team building 101 in the NBA, and how some people never saw this coming was and is utterly beyond me. That they blame Beal for it instead of the people that built this house the big bad wolf could blow down in .01 seconds is just confounding to me.
It isn't his fault we were played this way, if you can't see this coming, you shouldn't play the game in the first place, you/we, should just go home, which, btw, is what all fans should do to punish these idiots for now guaranteeing this team will remain irrelevant for fifty or so years instead of just 40-45.
The Beal hate is absolutely understandable. The right thing to do was to help the team on the way out. He's a piece of **** for allowing his agent to tamper this way. His agent tamperd for his son's team. That's ****. God ****. I hope they file tampering charges. You can choose to be a good person. Be didn't make that choice. **** him. The people who advised Ted to give him that deal are gone the current team doesn't hold responsibility for that. **** Beal.TGW wrote:I don’t understand the Beal hate right now. He doesn’t owe this pitiful franchise anything. He had a NTC and a trade kicker (which he waived). You don’t blame the player for negotiating the best deal he could and then exercising said components of the deal. You blame the people who made the deal with him in the first place.
Beal is not the first, nor the last nba player to get a deal that he didn’t deserve. But deserve is relative; his reps negotiated a contract, and both sides agreed to it, so in essence, he deserved the contract. Anyway, I don’t think Beal deserves the hate. If anything get mad at the phucking morons in the front office.
