Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[TrustFundBaby]

I would be shocked if Ujiri actually trades Siakam at this point. He may have made that Kawhi deal but somethings changed with him over the past few seasons. Either due to age, championship hangover, or perhaps he’s burned too many people around the league but he’s just become so risk averse and unwilling to budge.

In his mind, his intention to let Vanvleet and maybe Trent go in sign and trades is his idea of a shock makeover. That’s probably what he was alluding to in his ‘don’t blink, don’t put down the phone’ spiel.

That spiel was in reference to the league as a whole, not the Raptors

I don't think he's become risk averse, he's never been one to panic. Even before this era this board famously mocked him for constantly evaluating. Slow and steady is all he's ever shown

Fans were screaming for a Casey firing in 2015, he stuck with him until a third sweep occured in 2018. DD had one of the worst playoffs statistically in years, fans wanted him to walk much like we do now with FVV, but he paid DD and held him until the Kawhi deal.

He very clearly has a history of letting things simmer and slowly building.

[Ackshun]

Attendance is fine. Tv contract is fine.

A bit more playoff revenue for the cherry on top and who really cares what type of product we have to endure.

Hopefully when we find our guy in the next 5-10 years, he decides to stick around for more than a year.

[raf1995]

2019 RJ Barrett, Duke – New York Knicks
2018 Luka Doncic, Slovenia – Dallas Mavericks
2017 Jayson Tatum, Duke – Boston Celtics
2016 Jaylen Brown, California – Boston Celtics
2015 Jahlil Okafor, Duke – Philadelphia 76ers
2014 Joel Embiid, Kansas – Philadelphia 76ers
2013 Otto Porter, Georgetown – Washington Wizards
2012 Bradley Beal, Florida – Washington Wizards
2011 Enes Kanter, Kentucky – Utah Jazz
2010 Derrick Favors, Georgia Tech – New Jersey Nets

How many of them would you take over Pascal? There's a risk we significantly lose this trade if Scoot doesn't pan out, and that's worth something. Accept it.

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Here’s the thing though. It’s not a generic #3 pick. It’s a pick in this draft with this level of talent in the top 3. This years pick is worth more than top 3 picks in other drafts. And yeah, there’s no guarantee. But that’s why it’s high risk high reward. Scoot has the potential to be much more than Siakam ever will be. We have to go all in if we want the reward. If you want to play it safe, keep the core together and add a better bench and coaching staff and see what happens. The choice is ours.

Nah don't give me that bs. I'm 37 and I've been watching the NBA since 2000, intently. People say that garbage every damn year. Can't miss prospect! Nothing is as it seems and this draft is no more special than any other, outside of Wembenyama. The bust potential for Scoot and Miller is as high as any of the busts on that list I posted.

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Just admit you don’t know much about the draft and prospect evaluations. Saying the bust potential for Scoot is as high as any of the most famous busts of the last 10 years shows your ignorance.

[YogurtProducer]

Here’s the thing though. It’s not a generic #3 pick. It’s a pick in this draft with this level of talent in the top 3. This years pick is worth more than top 3 picks in other drafts. And yeah, there’s no guarantee. But that’s why it’s high risk high reward. Scoot has the potential to be much more than Siakam ever will be. We have to go all in if we want the reward. If you want to play it safe, keep the core together and add a better bench and coaching staff and see what happens. The choice is ours.

Nah don't give me that bs. I'm 37 and I've been watching the NBA since 2000, intently. People say that garbage every damn year. Can't miss prospect! Nothing is as it seems and this draft is no more special than any other, outside of Wembenyama. The bust potential for Scoot and Miller is as high as any of the busts on that list I posted.

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Just admit you don’t know much about the draft and prospect evaluations. Saying the bust potential for Scoot is as high as any of the most famous busts of the last 10 years shows your ignorance.

But he isn't wrong. There are very few prospects who you can pretty much guarantee won't bust - Scoot ain't one.

[JRoy]

Here’s the thing though. It’s not a generic #3 pick. It’s a pick in this draft with this level of talent in the top 3. This years pick is worth more than top 3 picks in other drafts. And yeah, there’s no guarantee. But that’s why it’s high risk high reward. Scoot has the potential to be much more than Siakam ever will be. We have to go all in if we want the reward. If you want to play it safe, keep the core together and add a better bench and coaching staff and see what happens. The choice is ours.

Nah don't give me that bs. I'm 37 and I've been watching the NBA since 2000, intently. People say that garbage every damn year. Can't miss prospect! Nothing is as it seems and this draft is no more special than any other, outside of Wembenyama. The bust potential for Scoot and Miller is as high as any of the busts on that list I posted.

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Just admit you don’t know much about the draft and prospect evaluations. Saying the bust potential for Scoot is as high as any of the most famous busts of the last 10 years shows your ignorance.

See?

Not the same guy.

[ForeverTFC]

Matt Moore is connected to the Pacers and Pritchard is a loser that whines a lot. So what if Masai doesn't want to give OG away or deal with a guy that leaks everything to the media. Difference between a champ and a serial trader.

Thank you for adding the context. I’m sure the usual suspects will just gloss over it though.

There couldn’t possibly be an agenda in leaks at this time the year…

This isn’t the first time we’ve heard this about Masai though. Hard to discount it all as some kind of conspiracy when it happens every year since 2019. This is the same guy that could have had Shaedon Sharpe and chose to keep his role player instead because Portland wouldn’t add more picks. Penny wise, pound foolish.

It’s also not the first time that there are leaks in the media about Masai not doing what others want him to do. Go look at the coverage of the Carmelo trade and what was being said and leaked about him.

[ForeverTFC]

I would be shocked if Ujiri actually trades Siakam at this point. He may have made that Kawhi deal but somethings changed with him over the past few seasons. Either due to age, championship hangover, or perhaps he’s burned too many people around the league but he’s just become so risk averse and unwilling to budge.

In his mind, his intention to let Vanvleet and maybe Trent go in sign and trades is his idea of a shock makeover. That’s probably what he was alluding to in his ‘don’t blink, don’t put down the phone’ spiel.

This is revisionist history. Masai has always been like this. People wanted him to shop DeRozan and tank for multiple seasons before he traded for Kawhi. He kept Casey to keep continuity going. He resisted gift wrapping Carmelo to NY. Masai has not changed.

[DemHeavyHands]

The longer this goes on, the closer we get to Dame requesting a trade imo

Gotta make a deal sooner than later if Portland/Dame actually like Siakam

Imagine we don’t get the #3 and we just end up trading Siakam at the deadline anyway lol

[NinjaBro]

The longer this goes on, the closer we get to Dame requesting a trade imo

Gotta make a deal sooner than later if Portland/Dame actually like Siakam

Imagine we don’t get the #3 and we just end up trading Siakam at the deadline anyway lol

Nothing will happen until draft day. When Silver gets up on the podium to announce portlands pick, pandemonium will ensue.

[anotherhomer]

The rumors that dame may want to go to Miami

Puts more pressure on portland

[TorontoBarneys]

I wish the Hornets owner change was happening sooner, new ownership might be dumb enough to trade #2 for Siakam to make a splash and surround Lamelo with another star.

[TrustFundBaby]

The rumors that dame may want to go to Miami

Puts more pressure on portland

Why? If anything that gives them the excuse of doing right by their star and shipping him to his preferred destination and finally start a rebuild without looking like the bad guys to their fanbase

[mtcan]

The arms race in the West is on.

[mihaic]

The arms race in the West is on.

Agree. I hope there will be one team that welcomes a Fred SnT.

Lakers Minnie or Clippers.

[Federalies]

The rumors that dame may want to go to Miami

Puts more pressure on portland

Why? If anything that gives them the excuse of doing right by their star and shipping him to his preferred destination and finally start a rebuild without looking like the bad guys to their fanbase

I’d tend to agree it creates more pressure as he’s been very clear he’d rather stay in Portland and would only insider a move “if” the Pacers ignore his request for legitimate all-star level support. Which seems to come down to Pascal, Bridges and Brown.

Lucky for us Bridges and Brown don’t seem to be on the block and I have to believe the front office understands the bind a Re-upped Siakam would have on the books with OG and Scottie still to feed under the new CBA.I love me some P-Skills but the time is right to cash in!

[ArthurVandelay]

The arms race in the West is on.

Agree. I hope there will be one team that welcomes a Fred SnT.

Lakers Minnie or Clippers.

Conley and Minott is what I’ve been rooting for

I think Minott has a lot of potential.

[docholliday99]

Portland should really should keep that #3 and gamble that Lillard will stay - he IS loyal as he tells everyone. Lillard, Sharpe, Miller, Grant, Nurk is a great starting 5, with Simons, Thybulle, Little, Watford, Eubanks off the bench. Portland's nuts if they try to sell their future for imho, a vain attempt in trying to be a contender, especially with a now confidant Nuggets team - they were tough before but now? yikes. Not to mention the Suns and Lakers who are much closer to dethroning the Nuggets than the Blazers could be at this time or near future. Lillard made his bed and if he wants out, all the better for Portland long term.

I say Miller at #3, as I've always felt Scoot will go #2 - he's a slasher and Melo's a shooter (esp off the catch and shoot 3's). IMHO, those 2 would create a devastating inside/out game for years to come and both can split duties leading the second unit. Having a 2nd creator of Scoots ability also brings insurance for Melo, who seems to be injured for long stretches.

[TGM]

I think Dame wanting to stay in Portland is genuine. For a guy that has spent so many years there he has a family and friends all established. At this point in his career I actually thinks he prefers living over a championship. So unless Portland trades him he probably willing to retire a blazer.

[Pointgod]

If Washington somehow gets the #3 for Porzingis and the 8, that’s huge miss for our front office.

[JRoy]

If Washington somehow gets the #3 for Porzingis and the 8, that’s huge miss for our front office.

Sounds like a great 100 page thread!