Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back

[AirP.]

Dame seems like another pipe dream just like Durant last year. Blazers have zero need for Herro and we are right back to square one of needing someone to eat these contracts in a 3 teamer. Tough scene tbh. Teams looking to burn it down are most likely not looking to add Herro at his price tag and neither the long term money of Robinson. We can’t just do a dump deal with Lowry and Oladipo because the tax bill will be to the moon adding all the impending guaranteed salary next year. Our team essentially needs Lowry to just expire next year.

If the front office is passing up on the sure thing all stars that come available and love Miami to strike out on pipe dream players who might become available and our owner is scared to pay the tax some serious conversations need to be had at the top

Scared? You're talking about paying the tax because they overpaid Robinson, Lowry and Herro.

[Spacely]

1. **** Beal, he's a loser for real.

2. Don't believe we'll get Dame. Won't happen.

3. What other moves can we makes with our picks and Herro/Duncan/Dipo/Lowry?

Just chose another team, a good one too, can't fault him for that.

Dame's not happening.

OG for Herro or Duncan is possible. Or John Collins. Not a lot of great perimeter talent available though, those don't fall off trees. Might be better off holdin' on to Herro in most scenarios

Doesn’t matter if we get OG or not, if we don’t get a big time scorer we are cooked, we need to just trade Jimmy at this point this is ridiculous.

[RexBoyWonder]

As long as he was willing to waive it for either team means we had no leverage. Wash took the best offer that was on the table. Just because we could've beat it doesn't mean it was actually on the table.

WE couldn't beat EXPIRING AND SECONED ROUND PICKS?!?

WE HAVE EXPIRING AND A BUNCH OF FIRST ROUND PICKS!!!

That's not what happened. Stop. Breathe. Chill. Beal wanted to go to Phoenix. That's all...

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[AirP.]

Listen, Beal really isn't that great of player.

And his contract is gross.

And apparently he's an uncompetitive loser as well.

The only problem is - he's much more helpful then Duncan + Dipo + Lowry.

So...WHO ELSE CAN WE GET FOR OUR POO POO PLATER?! We do have picks, and Herro.

Beal just went to a team who's owner did everything it took to get KD and now Beal, he picked a team where one of the owners is willing to do whatever to build a team, he's got the stars, now it's time to add the role-players.

Suns aren’t going anywhere with there stars. Will be a failed build. They’ll be starving for a true PG

Why does that matter, Miami doesn't have a true PG.

[Spacely]

So who are we getting with this #18 pick? We clearly need a PG or a PF/C.

What does it matter it's not like he'll play meaningful minutes or be part of the rotation.

I’m getting annoyed by this whole coaching situation and front office.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Dame seems like another pipe dream just like Durant last year. Blazers have zero need for Herro and we are right back to square one of needing someone to eat these contracts in a 3 teamer. Tough scene tbh. Teams looking to burn it down are most likely not looking to add Herro at his price tag and neither the long term money of Robinson. We can’t just do a dump deal with Lowry and Oladipo because the tax bill will be to the moon adding all the impending guaranteed salary next year. Our team essentially needs Lowry to just expire next year.

If the front office is passing up on the sure thing all stars that come available and love Miami to strike out on pipe dream players who might become available and our owner is scared to pay the tax some serious conversations need to be had at the top

Suns are going to fall flat in there face. Micky has a proven track record of doing it his way. He will pay the tax but it’s not going to be stupid throw money away tax.

[twix2500]

Dame seems like another pipe dream just like Durant last year. Blazers have zero need for Herro and we are right back to square one of needing someone to eat these contracts in a 3 teamer. Tough scene tbh. Teams looking to burn it down are most likely not looking to add Herro at his price tag and neither the long term money of Robinson. We can’t just do a dump deal with Lowry and Oladipo because the tax bill will be to the moon adding all the impending guaranteed salary next year. Our team essentially needs Lowry to just expire next year.

If the front office is passing up on the sure thing all stars that come available and love Miami to strike out on pipe dream players who might become available and our owner is scared to pay the tax some serious conversations need to be had at the top

Scared? You're talking about paying the tax because they overpaid Robinson, Lowry and Herro.

Heat were willing to pay the tax for Beal or Lillard they are not willing to pay the tax for Jerami Grant and PJ Tucker. The tax is not the reason Heat not getting a star

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[ShulaDon92]

Listen, Beal really isn't that great of player.

And his contract is gross.

And apparently he's an uncompetitive loser as well.

The only problem is - he's much more helpful then Duncan + Dipo + Lowry.

So...WHO ELSE CAN WE GET FOR OUR POO POO PLATER?! We do have picks, and Herro.

Beal just went to a team who's owner did everything it took to get KD and now Beal, he picked a team where one of the owners is willing to do whatever to build a team, he's got the stars, now it's time to add the role-players.

Beal chose to be a 3rd option paid to chill in the corner half the time. I get it, the Heat isn't for everyone.

Honestly wouldn't mind seeing Lavine in this system as well as Jovic or Lopez at the PF. If we can teach him defense he's going to be a dual threat with jimmy or caleb, cutting from the 3 line.

Still need those three bombz tho vrez, hence Lopez

Happy father's day

-SHULA

[MettaWorldPanda]

Beal just went to a team who's owner did everything it took to get KD and now Beal, he picked a team where one of the owners is willing to do whatever to build a team, he's got the stars, now it's time to add the role-players.

Suns aren’t going anywhere with there stars. Will be a failed build. They’ll be starving for a true PG

Why does that matter, Miami doesn't have a true PG.

Lowry has been a true PG all his life and Vincent transformed himself from a combo guard to a very capable PG when he was called upon. This team is a disaster when having to rely on Herro running the point.

[AirP.]

Listen, Beal really isn't that great of player.

And his contract is gross.

And apparently he's an uncompetitive loser as well.

The only problem is - he's much more helpful then Duncan + Dipo + Lowry.

So...WHO ELSE CAN WE GET FOR OUR POO POO PLATER?! We do have picks, and Herro.

Beal just went to a team who's owner did everything it took to get KD and now Beal, he picked a team where one of the owners is willing to do whatever to build a team, he's got the stars, now it's time to add the role-players.

Beal chose to be a 3rd option paid to chill in the corner half the time. I get it, the Heat isn't for everyone.

He picked a franchise that has an owner who will go all in to get what he wants, Miami doesn't do that, they use leverage to try to get trades and this time it bit them in the ass. They limited the team salary after getting to the finals to go after Giannis and that also bit them in the ass. Although Miami doesn't loose many trades that go through, they may have missed out on a lot of good players because they leaned on leverage way too much.

[Jinsaryko]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Beal just went to a team who's owner did everything it took to get KD and now Beal, he picked a team where one of the owners is willing to do whatever to build a team, he's got the stars, now it's time to add the role-players.

Beal chose to be a 3rd option paid to chill in the corner half the time. I get it, the Heat isn't for everyone.

Honestly wouldn't mind seeing Lavine in this system as well as Jovic or Lopez at the PF. If we can teach him defense he's going to be a dual threat with jimmy or caleb, cutting from the 3 line.

Still need those three bombz tho vrez

Happy father's day

-SHULA

-SHULA

LaVine and his clutch cronies are giving the Bulls problems. Don’t think Riley wants Klutch problems

[AirP.]

Lavine would provide much needed athleticism. He’s also the better defender.

What if Derozen could be had a reasonable price, thoughts?

He duplicates Butler's game, Miami needs a vet/proven playoff scorer from beyond the 3pt line, DeRozan isn't that.

That’s maybe the ideal archetype

If the strikeouts continue to happen for that kind of a player, though, an elite wing scorer, albeit inside the 3 point line, would still be a net improvement over last seasons roster, no?

I love DeRozen, but for this team he's just not the right fit with Bam and Butler needing the midrange space. Miami's next high priced player needs to be a proven outside shooter.

Truth be told, I'd be ok with Draymond at PF and just find some cheap 3pt shooters at PG/SG/SF who will try hard on defense.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It’s funny too because Beal will be heavily neutered in Phoenix

[RexBoyWonder]

Let me tell this - don't delude yourself - we're not getting Lilard. And I can't take weeks of talking about Lilard - which we're 1000% not getting.

I wouldn't mind missing on Beal if we had other realistic target.

We don't.

[canada_dry]

So who are we getting with this #18 pick? We clearly need a PG or a PF/C.

What does it matter it's not like he'll play meaningful minutes or be part of the rotation.

I’m getting annoyed by this whole coaching situation and front office.

Honestly getting annoyed by a coach that is consistently overachieving with the pieces given to him is crazy to me. Especially when he JUST got finished doing so.

Theres 29 of us other fanbases that would take him in a heartbeat.

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[dean456]

Miami definitely got greedy and wanted to get Beal without giving up any assets that could be used to get Lillard too. That's the only way I can see us not winning that trade. If that's the case then that is so shortsighted. It's either home run or nothing for the FO and its getting unbearable.

[VaDe255]

Listen, Beal really isn't that great of player.

And his contract is gross.

And apparently he's an uncompetitive loser as well.

The only problem is - he's much more helpful then Duncan + Dipo + Lowry.

So...WHO ELSE CAN WE GET FOR OUR POO POO PLATER?! We do have picks, and Herro.

Stop it already with the Beal slander.
They don't hand out max contracts just because they like the players name. He is one of the top offensive guards in the league and the Heat really needed exactly that type of player.
I'm still shocked at the decision to low ball, even if you "overpaid" with one more FRP/Jovic or whatever. It would have still been worth it.
It's depressing at this point to watch the same team run it back year after year and fail at the end, because they clearly don't have enough and are overperforming already.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’ll hold judgement on the washed demented Rat Riley until he strikes out on his “whale” again this summer. Let’s see if that old bag has something up his sleeve

[AirP.]

Miami definitely got greedy and wanted to get Beal without giving up any assets that could be used to get Lillard too. That's the only way I can see us not winning that trade. If that's the case then that is so shortsighted. It's either home run or nothing for the FO and its getting unbearable.

If all it took was CP3 and Shamet this traded would have been done yesterday, it wasn't. What that tells me is that he could have went to Miami had they offered more to Washington. My guess, Beal was open to both teams and just wanted to look at the trade and OK it before dropping his NTC and Miami just had certain parameters because they thought leverage was enough to get Beal and were already looking at keeping assets for the next trade. I sure hope that isn't what happened.