Bradley Beal, Jordan Goodwin & Isaiah Todd TRADED to the Phoenix Suns for CP3, Shamet, six 2nd rounders, & pick swaps

joshuacf · Post #181 » by **joshuacf** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:04 am

payitforward wrote:Let me repeat one key part of what I just wrote:
payitforward wrote:Even now, at 38, CP3 is one of the best PGs in the league & among the top 20-25 players in the league. Even now, at 38, IOW, he's way way way better than Brad....

I have to disagree with this. I think there are around 15 PGs who are undisputably better than CP3 is right now.

tleikheen · Post #182 » by **tleikheen** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:11 am

payitforward wrote:
Even now, at 38, CP3 is one of the best PGs in the league & among the top 20-25 players in the league. Even now, at 38, IOW, he's way way way better than Brad....

was it his 42/32/50 for 12 ppg in the playoffs that swayed you to CP3 being better than Beal

Jimmy Recard · Post #183 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:12 am

I know we were never gonna get what we could have gotten 3 years ago when we should have traded him, but Jesus this is a shocking return. The ghost of Ernie lives on.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #184 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:15 am

Taking Chris Paul's age, his motivation level to come to losing organization, and Washington's lack of cache all into consideration; this is terrible.

WTF

trast66 · Post #185 » by **trast66** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:21 am

payitforward wrote:I'm not sure what everyone is so upset about to tell the truth. Did we get a better offer for Brad & turn it down? If so, I must have missed it.

Looks like we're not going to keep Chris Paul, but if we did keep him we would have traded Brad for a much better player. Even now, at 38, CP3 is one of the best PGs in the league & among the top 20-25 players in the league. Even now, at 38, IOW, he's way way way better than Brad.

IOW, had it been a straight up trade, Bradley Beal for Chris Paul, there would have been no reason to complain. But, it wasn't a straight up trade. We also got Landry Shamet.

OTOH, we are losing Jordan Goodwin, which I don't like. Yet, we are getting some number of R2 picks, & we should certainly hope to get enough & more out of those picks to compensate for Goodwin.

But, it appears we are not going to keep Chris Paul but instead will move him to the Clippers. They don't have their own R1 pick this year, but they do have the #30 from the Bucks, & they have the #48 as well. Let's see what transpires.

But, if nothing happens, if it's just Beal & Goodwin out as against CP3, some R2 pics, & Shamet in, even in that case we just got significantly better.

Apparently also getting 6 2nd round picks!

Gig18 · Post #186 » by **Gig18** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:21 am

prime1time wrote:
Gig18 wrote:
prime1time wrote:The only good thing is that for the first time in years, the front office has made a legitimate decision about the future of the franchise. I expect we will turn into OKC of the East.

yeah. the "future."
the bottom...

who knows? maybe they have something up their sleeve with Porzingas. But if down is up, this world has lost its mind...

What would you have done?

Not sure. Maybe the new guys are playing 3 dimensional chess and I don't see the board.
BUT. considering we didn't get a single 1st rounder out of this I'm not sure what they hurry is on making a trade before the draft. If the goal is simply to GIVE Beal and his contract away, why not wait? see what the start of the season brings and maybe get more back from a contender at before the trade deadline.
I'll wait. maybe they flip Paul for something in the upcoming draft --- NOT a second rounder.
Maybe they have some play in mind with Porzingas. maybe they think they can get something of value out of a sign and trade with Kuz.
but hell, it doesn't appear right now that I define value they way they do.
Stripping it down to the studs will smart for fans...

PaulinVA · Post #187 » by **PaulinVA** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:22 am

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Rapaz · Post #188 » by **Rapaz** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:23 am

PaulinVA wrote:

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Bunch of fools.

AWIZZINGBULLET · Post #189 » by **AWIZZINGBULLET** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:24 am

Jellybeans wrote:Better keeping Beal then getting this crap return

Better luck next time not getting bounced by an 8th seed.

closg00 · Post #190 » by **closg00** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:25 am

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PaulinVA · Post #191 » by **PaulinVA** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:28 am

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NatP4 · Post #192 » by **NatP4** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:28 am

What 2nd round picks, and how many? Anyone know yet?

trast66 · Post #193 » by **trast66** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:31 am

NatP4 wrote:What 2nd round picks, and how many? Anyone know yet?

6 per Bobby Marks

NatP4 · Post #194 » by **NatP4** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:34 am

trast66 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:What 2nd round picks, and how many? Anyone know yet?

6 per Bobby Marks

Source on that? I saw the tweet where he stated that Phoenix has 6 2nd round picks available, did he confirm that all of those were included?

closg00 · Post #195 » by **closg00** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:41 am

Grunfeld said. "A lot of times what happens, when you wait on situations, the other team might get better offers along the way. Then the trade might go away. We felt good about this."

The new regime wanted to clear the deck before draft night, I get that, they were crippled by Tommy's contract

PaulinVA · Post #196 » by **PaulinVA** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:44 am

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Rainwater · Post #197 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:49 am

I fully understand the hate for this trade due to the lack of assets received but the purpose was to rebuild and get away from the Beal which was accomplished. The NTC doesn't help either.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #198 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:49 am

Now I read we gave away Goody as well. JFC. That young man will turn out to be very good.

daSwami · Post #199 » by **daSwami** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:50 am

I'm okay with the trade insofar as it gets that abomination of a contract off our books. If there's any truth to the rumor that Beal is trying to pinch Goodwin from us, too, then he's dead to me and I'm glad he's gone. Good riddance. Paul will probably be moved soon, too. I hope so.

Rainwater · Post #200 » by **Rainwater** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:51 am

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:Better keeping Beal then getting this crap return

Better luck next time not getting bounced by an 8th seed.

I don't understand why people would rather be a treadmill team than take this trade. The Wiz had to rebuild and I don't think many would have taken this Beal contract.

Like the deal?