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Bradley Beal, Jordan Goodwin & Isaiah Todd TRADED to the Phoenix Suns for CP3, Shamet, six 2nd rounders, & pick swaps

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Re: Bradley Beal traded to the Phoenix Suns for CP3, Shamet, 2nd round picks, and pick swaps 

Post#221 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:41 am

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trast66 wrote:Goodwin included is odd, wish it was Todd.

Remember the Knicks have our pick - top 12 protected in 2024, top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026, else 2026 second round pick, 2027 second round pick.

So we may have 8 this year, top 5 next year, and 10 in 26. Hit on a couple of those and with new CBA encouraging free agent movement away from top teams, Wingers plan is taking shape I guess.


The fact that it was Goodwin instead of Todd is an indication that it was the Suns bending-over a desperate Wizards FO, the Suns receive an actual asset in return, the Wizards nothing.
It's possible this was Beal again. He might have demanded it.

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Post#222 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:41 am

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gambitx777 wrote:
closg00 wrote:
The fact that it was Goodwin instead of Todd is an indication that it was the Suns bending-over a desperate Wizards FO, the Suns receive an actual asset in return, the Wizards nothing.
It's possible this was Beal again. He might have demanded it.

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I seriously doubt that Beal went that far into the weeds, but it's either the Suns evaluated our roster, or Beal said get Goodwin too, I wonder which one it is?......
I mean either way if they said we want Goodwin we say kick rocks unless Beal says then no deal and I'm not waiving any of it and it's war.

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Re: Bradley Beal traded to the Phoenix Suns for CP3, Shamet, 2nd round picks, and pick swaps 

Post#223 » by AFM » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:44 am

If you live near Dupont Circle and you hear someone laughing and crying at the same time, I'm sorry I left my window open

Yesterday I was thinking we were flipping KP for the 3rd pick and landing the 18th for Beal--instead we got geriatric Chris Paul, "Landed Gentry" or whatever his name is (I have no idea who that is but he looks goofy) and some 2nd round picks in the year 2040.
Oh, and we gave up our only positive young asset, Jordan Goodwin.

Bravo!!!
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Post#224 » by closg00 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:47 am

The Phoenix Suns will reportedly get some unexpected extra depth in their trade for Bradley Beal from the Washington Wizards. Jordan Goodwin has reportedly been informed he's being included in the deal and being sent to the Suns.

Goodwin was signed to a standard contract from his two-way deal in late-February of this past season. In 62 games (seven starts) with the Wizards, Goodwin averaged 6.6 points per game on 44.8% shooting from the field.

Phoenix is short on depth, with only six players under contract after this trade. Beal and Goodwin will join Deandre Ayton, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and Cameron Payne as the only Suns with contracts for the 2023-24 season, as free agency opens.


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Clearly The Suns were in the drivers seat.
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Post#225 » by marson » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:48 am

Sorry guys, we tried our best to give you something out of that Beta player lol

It's looking like a win for us in Miami that we dodged the bullet for this beta player. He is not built for the culture here.

Also, the NTC si effing stupid, why would anyone give that and holds back your franchise.
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Post#226 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:49 am

closg00 wrote:
The Phoenix Suns will reportedly get some unexpected extra depth in their trade for Bradley Beal from the Washington Wizards. Jordan Goodwin has reportedly been informed he's being included in the deal and being sent to the Suns.

Goodwin was signed to a standard contract from his two-way deal in late-February of this past season. In 62 games (seven starts) with the Wizards, Goodwin averaged 6.6 points per game on 44.8% shooting from the field.

Phoenix is short on depth, with only six players under contract after this trade. Beal and Goodwin will join Deandre Ayton, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and Cameron Payne as the only Suns with contracts for the 2023-24 season, as free agency opens.


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Clearly The Suns were in the drivers seat.
Beal was in the driver's seat. I'm would not be surprisedif he demanded this.

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Post#227 » by GoneShammGone » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:50 am

AFM wrote:If you live near Dupont Circle and you hear someone laughing and crying at the same time, I'm sorry I left my window open

Yesterday I was thinking we were flipping KP for the 3rd pick and landing the 18th for Beal--instead we got geriatric Chris Paul, "Landed Gentry" or whatever his name is (I have no idea who that is but he looks goofy) and some 2nd round picks in the year 2040.
Oh, and we gave up our only positive young asset, Jordan Goodwin.

Bravo!!!


Weird story.... I knew a kid in high school whose actual name was "Landon Gentry". Always thought that was made up. Probably in the witness protection program or some shi.

But damn Brad had some serious hate for the Wizards as a franchise to screw them this bad on the way out. I mean, sure CP3 is a god-level PG, but he's 38 and played 59 games last season. What's the over-under on his games played this year? 50? I would be over the moon if the Clippers give up the 30th pick for him.
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Post#228 » by closg00 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:53 am

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closg00 wrote:
The Phoenix Suns will reportedly get some unexpected extra depth in their trade for Bradley Beal from the Washington Wizards. Jordan Goodwin has reportedly been informed he's being included in the deal and being sent to the Suns.

Goodwin was signed to a standard contract from his two-way deal in late-February of this past season. In 62 games (seven starts) with the Wizards, Goodwin averaged 6.6 points per game on 44.8% shooting from the field.

Phoenix is short on depth, with only six players under contract after this trade. Beal and Goodwin will join Deandre Ayton, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and Cameron Payne as the only Suns with contracts for the 2023-24 season, as free agency opens.


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Clearly The Suns were in the drivers seat.
Beal was in the driver's seat. I'm would not be surprisedif he demanded this.

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Perhaps we should hire Beal to be GM when his playing days are over, he is a ruthless MF.
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Post#229 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:57 am

marson wrote:Sorry guys, we tried our best to give you something out of that Beta player lol

It's looking like a win for us in Miami that we dodged the bullet for this beta player. He is not built for the culture here.

Also, the NTC si effing stupid, why would anyone give that and holds back your franchise.
Yeah some of us had hope he would show Ted some respect but that was too much to ask. Miami is the better team to go to despite the package being better. He put right colluded with his agent and his son who's the GM for the suns and tampered with KD and booker. It's disgusting beta male behavior. You wanna hear boooooos tune into his first game back in DC.

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Post#230 » by trast66 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:23 am

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NatP4 wrote:What 2nd round picks, and how many? Anyone know yet?


6 per Bobby Marks


Source on that? I saw the tweet where he stated that Phoenix has 6 2nd round picks available, did he confirm that all of those were included?


About 50 seconds in he says “likely 6 2nd rounders”.
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Post#231 » by leswizards » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:26 am

GoneShammGone wrote:
AFM wrote:If you live near Dupont Circle and you hear someone laughing and crying at the same time, I'm sorry I left my window open

Yesterday I was thinking we were flipping KP for the 3rd pick and landing the 18th for Beal--instead we got geriatric Chris Paul, "Landed Gentry" or whatever his name is (I have no idea who that is but he looks goofy) and some 2nd round picks in the year 2040.
Oh, and we gave up our only positive young asset, Jordan Goodwin.

Bravo!!!


Weird story.... I knew a kid in high school whose actual name was "Landon Gentry". Always thought that was made up. Probably in the witness protection program or some shi.

But damn Brad had some serious hate for the Wizards as a franchise to screw them this bad on the way out. I mean, sure CP3 is a god-level PG, but he's 38 and played 59 games last season. What's the over-under on his games played this year? 50? I would be over the moon if the Clippers give up the 30th pick for him.


Beal only played 50, and cp3 has averaged more games per season than Beal has.

A lot posters wanted Beal traded, but seem incapable of accepting that a vastly overpaid injury prone player who has never really done much in his career really isn’t all that valuable an asset.
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Post#232 » by Gig18 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:32 am

trast66 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
trast66 wrote:
6 per Bobby Marks


Source on that? I saw the tweet where he stated that Phoenix has 6 2nd round picks available, did he confirm that all of those were included?


About 50 seconds in he says “likely 6 2nd rounders”.

Not to be cruel, but does it really matter?
" this just in. The wasington wizards have agreed to trade 6 second round picks to the sun antonio spurs for the 1st pick in the 2023 NBA draft
.. the wizards are expected to select Victor Wembanyama from france..."
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Post#233 » by 9 and 20 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:39 am

Landry Shamet looks like if you combined all the weirdest features of Derrick White and Trae Young, and then put that dude on an all oatmeal diet.
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Post#234 » by GoneShammGone » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:40 am

leswizards wrote:
GoneShammGone wrote:
AFM wrote:If you live near Dupont Circle and you hear someone laughing and crying at the same time, I'm sorry I left my window open

Yesterday I was thinking we were flipping KP for the 3rd pick and landing the 18th for Beal--instead we got geriatric Chris Paul, "Landed Gentry" or whatever his name is (I have no idea who that is but he looks goofy) and some 2nd round picks in the year 2040.
Oh, and we gave up our only positive young asset, Jordan Goodwin.

Bravo!!!


Weird story.... I knew a kid in high school whose actual name was "Landon Gentry". Always thought that was made up. Probably in the witness protection program or some shi.

But damn Brad had some serious hate for the Wizards as a franchise to screw them this bad on the way out. I mean, sure CP3 is a god-level PG, but he's 38 and played 59 games last season. What's the over-under on his games played this year? 50? I would be over the moon if the Clippers give up the 30th pick for him.


Beal only played 50, and cp3 has averaged more games per season than Beal has.

A lot posters wanted Beal traded, but seem incapable of accepting that a vastly overpaid injury prone player who has never really done much in his career really isn’t all that valuable an asset.


Stop being reasonable!

Our ten year odyssey with Brad has come to this. Like all things Wizards, any player who shows the faintest glimmer of stardom is doomed to end his career with the Zards in the most pathetic way possible. Is this worse then a washed up ex-con Gilbert Arenas being traded for the corpse of Shart Lewis? Maybe, maybe not. Either way, we are Wizards fans and freaking out about the final turn of the screw is the only way we ever get any emotional catharsis. I suggest you put your rational mind away and freak out with us!
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Post#235 » by Stanford » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:53 am

Addition by subtraction. Guy was a loser. Good luck with your rebuild. :wordyo:
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Post#236 » by The Consiglieri » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:54 am

leswizards wrote:
GoneShammGone wrote:
AFM wrote:If you live near Dupont Circle and you hear someone laughing and crying at the same time, I'm sorry I left my window open

Yesterday I was thinking we were flipping KP for the 3rd pick and landing the 18th for Beal--instead we got geriatric Chris Paul, "Landed Gentry" or whatever his name is (I have no idea who that is but he looks goofy) and some 2nd round picks in the year 2040.
Oh, and we gave up our only positive young asset, Jordan Goodwin.

Bravo!!!


Weird story.... I knew a kid in high school whose actual name was "Landon Gentry". Always thought that was made up. Probably in the witness protection program or some shi.

But damn Brad had some serious hate for the Wizards as a franchise to screw them this bad on the way out. I mean, sure CP3 is a god-level PG, but he's 38 and played 59 games last season. What's the over-under on his games played this year? 50? I would be over the moon if the Clippers give up the 30th pick for him.


Beal only played 50, and cp3 has averaged more games per season than Beal has.

A lot posters wanted Beal traded, but seem incapable of accepting that a vastly overpaid injury prone player who has never really done much in his career really isn’t all that valuable an asset.



I think that's over simplifying it, I think a lot of fans are either like me:
1. Infuriated that the team didn't do what was obvious the past four seasons when we could have gotten tremendous assets for rebuilding or...

2. Infuriated that they didn't see this coming for years like we did, and now, feel duped and are outraged at the ridiculous return which was a byproduct of 4.5 years of mismanagement of the asset until it was simply too late.

Few people are mad that he was traded, it is more about the absolute minimum return humanly possible over the past 4.5 years when he should have been moved.
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Post#237 » by payitforward » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:54 am

It's going to be interesting to watch opinions of this trade change over time. Especially when the Suns get worse without Chris Paul -- rather than better -- & then can't trade Brad because of his no-trade clause. :)

Key point:
Minute for minute, even at his current moment in his career, Chris Paul is a much much better player than Bradley Beal.

Is he as good now as he was at his peak? No! But at his peak he was one of the greatest players in the history of the game, & over a period of at least a decade he was, year in & year out, among the top 3-5 players in the league -- with a consistency & for a number of seasons unmatched by anyone else with the exception of Lebron.

Winger will move him to the Clippers, & it'll be interesting to see what we get in return.

As to Brad, he was in the driver's seat, & he got what he most wanted. I don't see any reason at all to blame him, & -- as I'm sure I've made clear by now! -- IMHO there's nothing wrong with this trade from our side. In fact, given our complete lack of control, it was quite clever!
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Post#238 » by AFM » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:01 am

In what way was it "clever"? We were given trade packages from 4 teams and were forced to take the absolute worst one. We had practically zero agency, this was between Beal and PHX--hard to see how we did anything at all notable, let alone clever.
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Post#239 » by AFM » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:07 am

By the way, was it clever to include Jordan Goodwin too?
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Post#240 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:13 am

I get what piff is saying. I happen to thing we can make some lemonade here. I think we can end up with a first and some other options.

I think 99% of what piff said was true. But if you're asking me not to be angry at this SAWFT ass bitch Beal and his crooked ass manager and his pussy ass new teammates. Sorry can't do it boss.

Ted paid this man's bills for a decade. Didn't move him when we should have listened to the front office and gave him the most in a contract anyone could give and more than anyone else would. Believed in this man, made him the guy and when it was time, past time, but time to move on. The reasonable and decent thing to do would have been hey pick a play off team, that doesn't have to blow up their rotation to get me, get the best deal you can and send me there as long as it's a play off team. But no Beal as his crooked ass agent did theirs and **** everyone else involved. **** that guy.

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