Is Jokic the 2nd Best Passer of All Time?

[70sFan]

Saying Stockton is 'one of the best passers of all-time' is like saying Karl Malone is one of the greatest scorers of all-time.

How could this analogy be helpful in any way?

[BoatsNZones]

Saying Stockton is 'one of the best passers of all-time' is like saying Karl Malone is one of the greatest scorers of all-time.

Would you care to elaborate on that? I'm guessing you didn't think it through much. Stockton led the league in APG for a decade straight on a nearly 4:1 Assist:TO ratio; that's more efficient than Jokic, Bird, Nash, Magic, etc. He maintained that volume/TO efficiency in the post-season, leading the playoffs in APG 10 times from the late 80's to early 2000's on a host of deep runs (where he was also an efficient 16 PPG post-season scorer through his 10 year prime... just a bit under Magic in that regard). I'm looking at a total of 0 scoring titles for Karl.

In case we need a reminder of the seams he could find:

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[letskissbro]

Ranking top tier passers is such a pointless exercise. Once you get to the top 10 or so they can all make the same reads, it's just a matter of how they leverage their other attributes and teammates to create plays. Jokic has height + shooting at the 5 which opens up the paint for cutters, Nash had shooting gravity from everywhere on the floor which made him the perfect PnR maestro, LeBron has unrivaled rim pressure which makes it easy for him to create looks for shooters, Bird had off-ball scoring which made his touch passes dangerous, Magic was a walking mismatch in the halfcourt and the Lakers had finishers that allowed him to dominate in transiton, etc, etc. But in terms of ability to see the floor they're all within the same vicinity.