2022-23 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5241 » by MyUniBroDavis » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:28 am

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LukaTheGOAT wrote:If Ayton could take another leap and get to around to Bam level, I think the Suns could be cooking. I actually feel like it is in the realm of possibilities even though it is unlikely.


Ayton hasnt been a top 10 center the last 2 seasons......he peaked in 21, has no work ethic and is one of the softest bigs ever

Bam is a workhorse and a top 5 center. There is close to no shot Ayton is reaching that level.


Aytons talented so it’s gonna depend on if it was an issue between him and monty probabl

He has the tools to be elite defensively and has shown the ability to do so, so maybe Vogel can cook something up



Ayton being good changes a lot because as it is the offense is gonna be a lot more your turn my turn, but Ayton a guy that can be really good so I hope they’re gonna trade him low lol
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5242 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:59 am

Teams record of winning a title in the first season of cobbling together a top heavy team of stars is not exactly sterling at this point. The ones that I can think of that actually managed to pull it off were super elite defensively. I have close to 0 faith this group of offensive only stars is the one that breaks the trends we've seen for ages. Defense, cohesion, chemistry, connectivity and all those things matter too much.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5243 » by 70sFan » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:02 am

Assuming good health, I struggle to see Suns doing much next year and it's being generous with Durant's consistent injury problems.
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Post#5244 » by MyUniBroDavis » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:20 am

70sFan wrote:Assuming good health, I struggle to see Suns doing much next year and it's being generous with Durant's consistent injury problems.


I think I wouldn’t have the Suns as favorites or anything but I see a path to them as strong contenders for sure

It’s gonna depend on the vet min market and how Ayton is imo, because that’s probably the guy that you either trade and recoup like rotation player or two or can be a super key guy for them if he plays to his potential. Goodwin is Lowkey a decent depth piece

They also got the dynamic duo at the head of the bench now smfh
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5245 » by Slava » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:37 am

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70sFan wrote:Assuming good health, I struggle to see Suns doing much next year and it's being generous with Durant's consistent injury problems.


I think I wouldn’t have the Suns as favorites or anything but I see a path to them as strong contenders for sure

It’s gonna depend on the vet min market and how Ayton is imo, because that’s probably the guy that you either trade and recoup like rotation player or two or can be a super key guy for them if he plays to his potential. Goodwin is Lowkey a decent depth piece

They also got the dynamic duo at the head of the bench now smfh


What's the market for Ayton? I can't see a single team in the league that is in need of a highly paid center.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5246 » by RCM88x » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:44 am

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70sFan wrote:Assuming good health, I struggle to see Suns doing much next year and it's being generous with Durant's consistent injury problems.


I think I wouldn’t have the Suns as favorites or anything but I see a path to them as strong contenders for sure

It’s gonna depend on the vet min market and how Ayton is imo, because that’s probably the guy that you either trade and recoup like rotation player or two or can be a super key guy for them if he plays to his potential. Goodwin is Lowkey a decent depth piece

They also got the dynamic duo at the head of the bench now smfh


What's the market for Ayton? I can't see a single team in the league that is in need of a highly paid center.


I bet the Cavs have called the Suns about an Ayton for Allen + something swap.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5247 » by The-Power » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:00 pm

I know Durant has been the butt of many jokes, and all the drama as of late and some questionable choices along the way certainly warrant criticism and skepticism. But I find it noteworthy that good players seem to continue to line up to play with him. The GSW trio, Irving, Harden, Booker (presumably) and now Beal. Say what you will but he seems to continue to enjoy a solid reputation among players (or certainly isn't turning them off) and that is not something to be brushed aside easily when talking about his value to a franchise.
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Post#5248 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:33 pm

The-Power wrote:I know Durant has been the butt of many jokes, and all the drama as of late and some questionable choices along the way certainly warrant criticism and skepticism. But I find it noteworthy that good players seem to continue to line up to play with him. The GSW trio, Irving, Harden, Booker (presumably) and now Beal. Say what you will but he seems to continue to enjoy a solid reputation among players (or certainly isn't turning them off) and that is not something to be brushed aside easily when talking about his value to a franchise.


He's one of the best players of his generation. Hardly a surprise that other players want to play with him.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5249 » by Ambrose » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:19 pm

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GSP wrote:
LukaTheGOAT wrote:If Ayton could take another leap and get to around to Bam level, I think the Suns could be cooking. I actually feel like it is in the realm of possibilities even though it is unlikely.


Ayton hasnt been a top 10 center the last 2 seasons......he peaked in 21, has no work ethic and is one of the softest bigs ever

Bam is a workhorse and a top 5 center. There is close to no shot Ayton is reaching that level.


Aytons talented so it’s gonna depend on if it was an issue between him and monty probabl

He has the tools to be elite defensively and has shown the ability to do so, so maybe Vogel can cook something up



Ayton being good changes a lot because as it is the offense is gonna be a lot more your turn my turn, but Ayton a guy that can be really good so I hope they’re gonna trade him low lol


Unless it was strictly a Monty issue, I don't see Ayton being happy on this team. His touches are only going to continue to drop. He averaged 13.9 FGA/gm w/o Durant last year, and 10.0 FGA/gm with him. That number isn't going to go up with Beal around.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5250 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:25 pm

The-Power wrote:I know Durant has been the butt of many jokes, and all the drama as of late and some questionable choices along the way certainly warrant criticism and skepticism. But I find it noteworthy that good players seem to continue to line up to play with him. The GSW trio, Irving, Harden, Booker (presumably) and now Beal. Say what you will but he seems to continue to enjoy a solid reputation among players (or certainly isn't turning them off) and that is not something to be brushed aside easily when talking about his value to a franchise.

On the other hand, there is the fact that he also frequently wants to play with other star players - on a different team from the one employing him. Kind of eats into that value...
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Post#5251 » by AEnigma » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:25 pm

The-Power wrote:I know Durant has been the butt of many jokes, and all the drama as of late and some questionable choices along the way certainly warrant criticism and skepticism. But I find it noteworthy that good players seem to continue to line up to play with him. The GSW trio, Irving, Harden, Booker (presumably) and now Beal. Say what you will but he seems to continue to enjoy a solid reputation among players (or certainly isn't turning them off) and that is not something to be brushed aside easily when talking about his value to a franchise.

The Golden State trio, Irving, and Harden were also all fine parting ways with him lol. Seems similar to his relationship with GMs where he is an initial draw but never a long-term partner.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5252 » by parsnips33 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:41 pm

Gonna be a real crisis of the soul for me if they actually let Draymond walk
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Post#5253 » by rk2023 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:42 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Gonna be a real crisis of the soul for me if they actually let Draymond walk


Since Shams and Woj leaked, my initial and only reaction has been that it seems he will take a cheaper per year and longer (like 3 years perhaps) extension back in Golden State.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5254 » by parsnips33 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:51 pm

rk2023 wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Gonna be a real crisis of the soul for me if they actually let Draymond walk


Since Shams and Woj leaked, my initial and only reaction has been that it seems he will take a cheaper per year and longer (like 3 years perhaps) extension back in Golden State.


Yeah I'm thinking (hoping) he'll line up the years with what Steph's got left at a lower per year #
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5255 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:01 pm

Read on Twitter


Silver went way too easy on him. Maybe an entire season off would have been the wake-up call he needed.
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Post#5256 » by xb3at band1tx » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:38 pm

lol

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Post#5257 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:44 pm

This is crazy:

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So Isiah really is running things for the Suns. That alone should give anyone pause on this whole Beal trade working out in their favor.
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Post#5258 » by parsnips33 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:53 pm

I like this new Suns owner

He came in ready to throw some money around
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5259 » by eminence » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:05 pm

xb3at band1tx wrote:lol

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Not really seeing it.
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Re: 2022-23 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#5260 » by AEnigma » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:11 pm

Strictly as regular season teams, they are right. Unfortunately, they need a playoff first option. I hold Siakam in high regard, but that cannot be his role.

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