Scoot Henderson

[pepe1991]

Why not just go for Lamelo instead? I think with new ownership, they might want to restart the team.

Would probably cost even more than Scoot.

Restarting team probably doesn't mean trading 21 years old allstar

[Rainwater]

Why not just go for Lamelo instead? I think with new ownership, they might want to restart the team.

Why would they restart? They are already a young team as it is, they haven't built anything yet. It's not like they are some treadmill team.

[Bensational]

Portland and Washington could do a 3 + Simons for KP + 8 swap.

Then Portland shops the 8 with Nurkic + Little (salary filler) for another veteran like LaVine, DeRozan + Caruso, Ben Simmons, Jordan Poole, etc.

KP
Grant
LaVine
Sharpe
Lillard

That’s some firepower. Blazers all in.

[ogmagicfan]

Portland and Washington could do a 3 + Simons for KP + 8 swap.

Then Portland shops the 8 with Nurkic + Little (salary filler) for another veteran like LaVine, DeRozan + Caruso, Ben Simmons, Jordan Poole, etc.

KP
Grant
LaVine
Sharpe
Lillard

That’s some firepower. Blazers all in.

Lack of defense & depth would be the death of that team.

I really dont see a scenario where the Blazers can become a contender. Even with lucking out with the 3rd pick, they'll need to trade a whole lotta future 1sts to get a 3 & D player 2 or 3 also (which they need, preferiably PG, maybe Ingram or OG) and get players to provide good depth too. I don't think they're willing to trade their next 3/4 future 1sts to make that happen

They just needa rebuild.

[Bensational]

Portland and Washington could do a 3 + Simons for KP + 8 swap.

Then Portland shops the 8 with Nurkic + Little (salary filler) for another veteran like LaVine, DeRozan + Caruso, Ben Simmons, Jordan Poole, etc.

KP
Grant
LaVine
Sharpe
Lillard

That’s some firepower. Blazers all in.

Lack of defense & depth would be the death of that team.

I really dont see a scenario where the Blazers can become a contender. Even with lucking out with the 3rd pick, they'll need to trade a whole lotta future 1sts to get a 3 & D player 2 or 3 also (which they need, preferiably PG, maybe Ingram or OG) and get players to provide good depth too. I don't think they're willing to trade their next 3/4 future 1sts to make that happen

They just needa rebuild.

If they could bring that team together I think they definitely should take a swing with it. People forget Dame was in the conference finals just 3 seasons ago with Nurkic and CJ as his help. Dame is still one of the few players who puts you in contention if you get him enough help, and they don’t come along very often - but they can rebuild any time.

[Rainwater]

Portland and Washington could do a 3 + Simons for KP + 8 swap.

Then Portland shops the 8 with Nurkic + Little (salary filler) for another veteran like LaVine, DeRozan + Caruso, Ben Simmons, Jordan Poole, etc.

KP
Grant
LaVine
Sharpe
Lillard

That’s some firepower. Blazers all in.

Lack of defense & depth would be the death of that team.

I really dont see a scenario where the Blazers can become a contender. Even with lucking out with the 3rd pick, they'll need to trade a whole lotta future 1sts to get a 3 & D player 2 or 3 also (which they need, preferiably PG, maybe Ingram or OG) and get players to provide good depth too. I don't think they're willing to trade their next 3/4 future 1sts to make that happen

They just needa rebuild.

If they could bring that team together I think they definitely should take a swing with it. People forget Dame was in the conference finals just 3 seasons ago with Nurkic and CJ as his help. Dame is still one of the few players who puts you in contention if you get him enough help, and they don’t come along very often - but they can rebuild any time.

I disagree. Yes, Dame brought the Blazers to the conference finals 3 years ago. But that was 3 years ago and he hasn't done anything since despite the Blazers trying to build a team around him. They really need to trade him and rebuild already.

And even though they can rebuild anytime they will a have nice young core in Simons, Sharpe, and the 3rd pick (Scoot) and whatever picks they may get in a Miami trade. They shouldn't trade these pieces in an ill advise attempt at a ring. There is no promise their future rebuild will be as good as it will be now.

That Dame/Miami pairing should really happen.

[Bensational]

Lack of defense & depth would be the death of that team.

I really dont see a scenario where the Blazers can become a contender. Even with lucking out with the 3rd pick, they'll need to trade a whole lotta future 1sts to get a 3 & D player 2 or 3 also (which they need, preferiably PG, maybe Ingram or OG) and get players to provide good depth too. I don't think they're willing to trade their next 3/4 future 1sts to make that happen

They just needa rebuild.

If they could bring that team together I think they definitely should take a swing with it. People forget Dame was in the conference finals just 3 seasons ago with Nurkic and CJ as his help. Dame is still one of the few players who puts you in contention if you get him enough help, and they don’t come along very often - but they can rebuild any time.

I disagree. Yes, Dame brought the Blazers to the conference finals 3 years ago. But that was 3 years ago and he hasn't done anything since despite the Blazers trying to build a team around him. They really need to trade him and rebuild.

And even though they can rebuild anytime they will a have nice young core in Simons, Sharpe, and the 3rd pick (Scoot) and whatever picks they may get in a Miami trade. They shouldn't trade these pieces in an ill advise attempt at a ring. There is no promise their future rebuild will be as good as it will be now.

That Dame/Miami pairing should really happen.

That’s definitely one way to go, I don’t disagree with people thinking that way and I’d love to see Dame in Miami. But for me the goal is a ring and Dame is probably half of a good 2-man solution (plus good supporting cast) away from a contending team. If a team gets hot in the playoffs they can get to the finals.

There will be another Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller in a few years time who they can tank for then.

[Skybox]

If they could bring that team together I think they definitely should take a swing with it. People forget Dame was in the conference finals just 3 seasons ago with Nurkic and CJ as his help. Dame is still one of the few players who puts you in contention if you get him enough help, and they don’t come along very often - but they can rebuild any time.

I disagree. Yes, Dame brought the Blazers to the conference finals 3 years ago. But that was 3 years ago and he hasn't done anything since despite the Blazers trying to build a team around him. They really need to trade him and rebuild.

And even though they can rebuild anytime they will a have nice young core in Simons, Sharpe, and the 3rd pick (Scoot) and whatever picks they may get in a Miami trade. They shouldn't trade these pieces in an ill advise attempt at a ring. There is no promise their future rebuild will be as good as it will be now.

That Dame/Miami pairing should really happen.

That’s definitely one way to go, I don’t disagree with people thinking that way and I’d love to see Dame in Miami. But for me the goal is a ring and Dame is probably half of a good 2-man solution (plus good supporting cast) away from a contending team. If a team gets hot in the playoffs they can get to the finals.

There will be another Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller in a few years time who they can tank for then.

Dame, Jimmy Buckets, and Bam would be a fierce combo…I’d take them over PHO’s big 3.

[pepe1991]

Dame creates defensive havoc by just existing out there. He would be massive, massive for Heat.

[jezzerinho]

Something every Orlando fan should hope doesnt happen.

[OhioRock3]

Saw this rumor and I'd do it in a heartbeat tbh

In his mock draft, Buckley suggested that the Trail Blazers make a trade with the Orlando Magic. They would acquire Wendell Carter Jr. and Gary Harris along with the No. 6 and No. 11 overall picks in the 2023 NBA Draft. Simons and the No. 3 pick would be heading to Orlando.

[JoshuaPotter]

If 6+11+Denver pick+ maybe our 1st next year protected isn't enough then 2/3 isn't for sale.

Frankly, I think in Hornets position they should consider that trade.

If we know that the Hornets are taking Miller. I say we dangle the same package to Portland for Scoot so they can try to trade for a "big player" since picks seem to move players, and 4 picks to add to their own wouldn't be a slouch.

[Rainwater]

Something every Orlando fan should hope doesnt happen.

The magic are still very young and years from actually competing. By the time the heat run frizzles out the magic will then take their place. The warriors for example drafted Curry in 2009 and didn't win their first championship until 2015. Denver drafted Joker in 2016 but didn't win their first championship until 2023.

[Rainwater]

If they could bring that team together I think they definitely should take a swing with it. People forget Dame was in the conference finals just 3 seasons ago with Nurkic and CJ as his help. Dame is still one of the few players who puts you in contention if you get him enough help, and they don’t come along very often - but they can rebuild any time.

I disagree. Yes, Dame brought the Blazers to the conference finals 3 years ago. But that was 3 years ago and he hasn't done anything since despite the Blazers trying to build a team around him. They really need to trade him and rebuild.

And even though they can rebuild anytime they will a have nice young core in Simons, Sharpe, and the 3rd pick (Scoot) and whatever picks they may get in a Miami trade. They shouldn't trade these pieces in an ill advise attempt at a ring. There is no promise their future rebuild will be as good as it will be now.

That Dame/Miami pairing should really happen.

That’s definitely one way to go, I don’t disagree with people thinking that way and I’d love to see Dame in Miami. But for me the goal is a ring and Dame is probably half of a good 2-man solution (plus good supporting cast) away from a contending team. If a team gets hot in the playoffs they can get to the finals.

There will be another Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller in a few years time who they can tank for then.

I just think the writing is on the wall. They have tried to build around Dame already and have failed. It's just time to let go. Even though as a group they are not better than Dame, it's like when the Magic continued to build around Vuc, AG, and Evan when everything indicated it wasn't going to work.

I just feel like a trade to Miami is a win win for everyone involved. Miami gets a true number 1 for a team that is already a contender and Portland finally rebuilds with a nice young core. Sharpe and Scoot have the talent to rule the West for years. Why give that up to continue to rebuild around Dame when it has shown it hasn't worked and he is just getting older?

[Skybox]

Something every Orlando fan should hope doesnt happen.

The magic are still very young and years from actually competing. By the time the heat run frizzles out the magic will then take their place. The warriors for example drafted Curry in 2009 and didn't win their first championship until 2015. Denver drafted Joker in 2016 but didn't win their first championship until 2023.

I think it'd be great, especially if ORL benefits somehow like picking off Simons and #18 or #23 somehow, for facilitating with our cap room, picks, etc. MIA would serve us some beatings, but we'd increasingly deal some back and, ultimately, pass them by a lot like the aging Celtics vs the DET Bad Boys...classiest part was the graceful sendoff BOS fans (not known for it) gave when it happened..."Beat LA. Beat LA. Beat LA"...I'll always remember McHale dapping up hated Isiah Thomas when the game/series was out of reach. Sadly, Zeke acted like a punk when their time came to pass the torch, with Jordan and CHI.

I think the "hate" between ORL/MIA would be enhanced, but it'll become more respectful as ORL becomes a legit threat. Like "Only I'm allowed to smack my brother. Anybody else tries it, they've got to deal with me"

[jonbob17]

Something every Orlando fan should hope doesnt happen.

The magic are still very young and years from actually competing. By the time the heat run frizzles out the magic will then take their place. The warriors for example drafted Curry in 2009 and didn't win their first championship until 2015. Denver drafted Joker in 2016 but didn't win their first championship until 2023.

Yah patience is the key. the Suns it was year 6 of Devin Booker when they became good.

We need a solid 4-5 years from drafting Suggs and Franz. gives the Paolo and the new guys time to develop...maybe our peak years are years 6-9 of Franz and Suggs, guys are still on their first extensions or young guys have been consolidated for veteran star(s). That would be 2026-27.

Seems like everybody is ready to start cashing their IRAS out now before the accounts have really developed.

[Rainwater]

Something every Orlando fan should hope doesnt happen.

The magic are still very young and years from actually competing. By the time the heat run frizzles out the magic will then take their place. The warriors for example drafted Curry in 2009 and didn't win their first championship until 2015. Denver drafted Joker in 2016 but didn't win their first championship until 2023.

Yah patience is the key. the Suns it was year 6 of Devin Booker when they became good.

We need a solid 4-5 years from drafting Suggs and Franz. gives the Paolo and the new guys time to develop...maybe our peak years are years 6-9 of Franz and Suggs, guys are still on their first extensions or young guys have been consolidated for veteran star(s). That would be 2026-27.

Seems like everybody is ready to start cashing their IRAS out now before the accounts have really developed.

Man, this is the truth.