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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#161 » by stan francisco » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am

LAKESHOW wrote:I didn't mention Porzingis, someone else did. However, think about it. What do we get with AD? No back to backs. Loss of games due to injury. Loss of games due to whatever reasons. KP is young, can shoot, has length, would be a formidable duo whenever AD returns back from whatever. Can still fill the role whenever AD is out. Can Man The middle. Can run a 2 man game with Bron, rebound etc...


Offensively it makes sense. How’s his defense against elite offensive bigs? Giannis, Jokic, Embiid…

Given that we’ll have AD on the pine half of the season I think we need to go after a defensive C.

Why not Brook Lopez? Plays both ends, isn’t easily pushed off the block.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#162 » by stan francisco » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:55 am

LAKESHOW wrote:I didn't mention Porzingis, someone else did. However, think about it. What do we get with AD? No back to backs. Loss of games due to injury. Loss of games due to whatever reasons. KP is young, can shoot, has length, would be a formidable duo whenever AD returns back from whatever. Can still fill the role whenever AD is out. Can Man The middle. Can run a 2 man game with Bron, rebound etc...


Offensively it makes sense. How’s his defense against elite offensive bigs? Giannis, Jokic, Embiid…

Given that we’ll have AD on the pine half of the season I think we need to go after a defensive C.

Why not Brook Lopez? Plays both ends, isn’t easily pushed off the block.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#163 » by LAKESHOW » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:51 am

Lopez would probably be more in our financial ball park. And of course, familiar with Hams system of play
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#164 » by Showtime:Part2 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:58 pm

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hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Let’s look at Denver shooting by playoff series -

PHX

Jokic 59.4%
Murray 45.0%

Lakers

Jokic 50.6%
Murray 52.7%

Heat

Jokic 58.3%
Murray 45.2%

The biggest misnomer here is that the Lakers and AD couldn’t guard Jokic. In reality he did a hell of a job keeping Jokic under control.

Lakers issue was the did the worst job of anyone on Murray. He shot far above what he did against the Suns or the Heat. That was the killer in a series in which 3 games were decided by just 13 points.

While I’d like to get a big to play while AD needs a break? But the Lakers don’t need a starting center, they need a backup big. The primary focus should be perimeter defense, that is what failed them the most during the WCF.


This is because lakers foolishly doubled jokic more than any of these other teams and played dlo over Schroeder for way too long. Now go look at jokic apg by series and he averaged 12 against us lol. 9, 10, and 7 were his apg averaged in the other series. Do you not remember us crucifying ham for doubling joker and giving mpj open looks and allowing Murray to go off (or maybe that was on Reddit lakers board I forget)? You need a guy who will bang w him at the 5 one on one with AD cheating off Aaron Gordon/covering both joker as a help man and Aaron Gordon simultaneously, which frankly not that many others can do outside of AD. We need size to beat Denver, don’t get it twisted. We should be focused on a starting caliber 5 that would also allow AD to rest during the season. Why go away from the 2020 formula that worked? Do you recall this same team struggling to beat the rockets and other lowly teams whenever AD sat? How can you have gone through the second half of the season and think what we need is more guards lol. Schroeder is one of the best defensive Pgs in the league. It’s not gonna matter tho if ham plays dlo 30mpg over him for 3 games and doubles joker every time he touches the ball. You simply won’t win. This team needs a 5 and a new coach


Unless that size comes in the form of an agile, versatile player like AD? It causes way too many problems on offense spacing wise, plus Denver causes these dudes to have to guard in space too often. Big immobile centers often get played right off the floor against Denver. And mobile, active ones are fairly pricey and hard to find. I’m not starting a dude like Zubac or Nurkic just because they are big because it causes far more other problems than it actually solves. But sure you figure out a way to land Bam, or Mobley or JJJ…of course. But really all we needed was a very good point of attack defender, and a bench big to give AD a break, to make Murray’s life harder and we win games 2, 3 and 4.


We watched different games clearly. The lakers were doubling jokic almost every time and playing drop so they could play soft trapping on joker. It limited jokers scoring but he killed us with his passing. You need a big guy who can handle him one on one so he isn’t a playmaker. Let him get 30 pts on 50% shooting, do not let him average double digit assists. I mean did you forget about 2020? Schroeder is one of the leagues best poa defenders (did decent against curry), so it seems clear to me it was the defensive scheme that failed and that scheme failed bc ad isn’t comfortable guarding joker one on one (or any big for that matter). It’s clear as day that ad does his best defensive work as a helper. Do you not recall switching rui onto jjj and letting ad roam off of Xavier Tillman saved us in that series? Same thing with rui on towns

Separately you have to rmr that Denver was also picking us apart bc ham insisted on playing dlo over 30mpg till game 4. The rush to play small ball ignores the reality that the last few champs outside of the warriors (Steph curry is a special dude that nobody can replicate) have been big ass teams. Bucks, nuggets, lakers. What did they all have in common? Size. The only guy to break that mold is Steph but there are no Steph caliber players we can throw on our team.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#165 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:17 pm

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This is because lakers foolishly doubled jokic more than any of these other teams and played dlo over Schroeder for way too long. Now go look at jokic apg by series and he averaged 12 against us lol. 9, 10, and 7 were his apg averaged in the other series. Do you not remember us crucifying ham for doubling joker and giving mpj open looks and allowing Murray to go off (or maybe that was on Reddit lakers board I forget)? You need a guy who will bang w him at the 5 one on one with AD cheating off Aaron Gordon/covering both joker as a help man and Aaron Gordon simultaneously, which frankly not that many others can do outside of AD. We need size to beat Denver, don’t get it twisted. We should be focused on a starting caliber 5 that would also allow AD to rest during the season. Why go away from the 2020 formula that worked? Do you recall this same team struggling to beat the rockets and other lowly teams whenever AD sat? How can you have gone through the second half of the season and think what we need is more guards lol. Schroeder is one of the best defensive Pgs in the league. It’s not gonna matter tho if ham plays dlo 30mpg over him for 3 games and doubles joker every time he touches the ball. You simply won’t win. This team needs a 5 and a new coach


Unless that size comes in the form of an agile, versatile player like AD? It causes way too many problems on offense spacing wise, plus Denver causes these dudes to have to guard in space too often. Big immobile centers often get played right off the floor against Denver. And mobile, active ones are fairly pricey and hard to find. I’m not starting a dude like Zubac or Nurkic just because they are big because it causes far more other problems than it actually solves. But sure you figure out a way to land Bam, or Mobley or JJJ…of course. But really all we needed was a very good point of attack defender, and a bench big to give AD a break, to make Murray’s life harder and we win games 2, 3 and 4.


We watched different games clearly. The lakers were doubling jokic almost every time and playing drop so they could play soft trapping on joker. It limited jokers scoring but he killed us with his passing. You need a big guy who can handle him one on one so he isn’t a playmaker. Let him get 30 pts on 50% shooting, do not let him average double digit assists. I mean did you forget about 2020? Schroeder is one of the leagues best poa defenders (did decent against curry), so it seems clear to me it was the defensive scheme that failed and that scheme failed bc ad isn’t comfortable guarding joker one on one (or any big for that matter). It’s clear as day that ad does his best defensive work as a helper. Do you not recall switching rui onto jjj and letting ad roam off of Xavier Tillman saved us in that series? Same thing with rui on towns


Jamal Murray only had 33% of his shots assisted, guys like Gordon and Brown were in the 60% and 80% for the series. What you are forgetting is when we doubled, it wasn’t off if Murray. It was off of Gordon and Brown and Green. Everything Murray did was off of ISO or PNR and he wrecked us. That’s great that Schroeder held Curry to 28 a game…but Murray wrecked him. And D Lo was unplayable. We needed a guard that could stay in front of Murray and we didn’t get that from any of our dudes.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#166 » by Showtime:Part2 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:29 pm

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Unless that size comes in the form of an agile, versatile player like AD? It causes way too many problems on offense spacing wise, plus Denver causes these dudes to have to guard in space too often. Big immobile centers often get played right off the floor against Denver. And mobile, active ones are fairly pricey and hard to find. I’m not starting a dude like Zubac or Nurkic just because they are big because it causes far more other problems than it actually solves. But sure you figure out a way to land Bam, or Mobley or JJJ…of course. But really all we needed was a very good point of attack defender, and a bench big to give AD a break, to make Murray’s life harder and we win games 2, 3 and 4.


We watched different games clearly. The lakers were doubling jokic almost every time and playing drop so they could play soft trapping on joker. It limited jokers scoring but he killed us with his passing. You need a big guy who can handle him one on one so he isn’t a playmaker. Let him get 30 pts on 50% shooting, do not let him average double digit assists. I mean did you forget about 2020? Schroeder is one of the leagues best poa defenders (did decent against curry), so it seems clear to me it was the defensive scheme that failed and that scheme failed bc ad isn’t comfortable guarding joker one on one (or any big for that matter). It’s clear as day that ad does his best defensive work as a helper. Do you not recall switching rui onto jjj and letting ad roam off of Xavier Tillman saved us in that series? Same thing with rui on towns


Jamal Murray only had 33% of his shots assisted, guys like Gordon and Brown were in the 60% and 80% for the series. What you are forgetting is when we doubled, it wasn’t off if Murray. It was off of Gordon and Brown and Green. Everything Murray did was off of ISO or PNR and he wrecked us. That’s great that Schroeder held Curry to 28 a game…but Murray wrecked him. And D Lo was unplayable. We needed a guard that could stay in front of Murray and we didn’t get that from any of our dudes.


We played drop to cheat on joker, of course it will show as unassisted. If you’ve always got your eye on jokic, it’s tough to stay on Murray. look at kcps and mpjs shooting against us vs against other series. It’s all bc joker was finding them wide open. Again you’re ignoring what actually has led to championships. Size (bucks, nuggets, lakers) or Steph curry.

And if you’re going to use exaggerated stats like pointing out Steph’s series ppg (which was actually 26.5), and not point out his head to head matchup against schroeder, you should also point out the efficiency 44% and 34%. Again schroeder is an elite poa defender. It’s the scheme from ham that cooked us. I’m sorry you can’t see it
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To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#167 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:57 pm

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We watched different games clearly. The lakers were doubling jokic almost every time and playing drop so they could play soft trapping on joker. It limited jokers scoring but he killed us with his passing. You need a big guy who can handle him one on one so he isn’t a playmaker. Let him get 30 pts on 50% shooting, do not let him average double digit assists. I mean did you forget about 2020? Schroeder is one of the leagues best poa defenders (did decent against curry), so it seems clear to me it was the defensive scheme that failed and that scheme failed bc ad isn’t comfortable guarding joker one on one (or any big for that matter). It’s clear as day that ad does his best defensive work as a helper. Do you not recall switching rui onto jjj and letting ad roam off of Xavier Tillman saved us in that series? Same thing with rui on towns


Jamal Murray only had 33% of his shots assisted, guys like Gordon and Brown were in the 60% and 80% for the series. What you are forgetting is when we doubled, it wasn’t off if Murray. It was off of Gordon and Brown and Green. Everything Murray did was off of ISO or PNR and he wrecked us. That’s great that Schroeder held Curry to 28 a game…but Murray wrecked him. And D Lo was unplayable. We needed a guard that could stay in front of Murray and we didn’t get that from any of our dudes.


We played drop to cheat on joker, of course it will show as unassisted. If you’ve always got your eye on jokic, it’s tough to stay on Murray. look at kcps and mpjs shooting against us vs against other series. It’s all bc joker was finding them wide open. Again you’re ignoring what actually has led to championships. Size (bucks, nuggets, lakers) or Steph curry.

And if you’re going to use exaggerated stats like pointing out Steph’s series ppg (which was actually 26.5), and not point out his head to head matchup against schroeder, you should also point out the efficiency 44% and 34%. Again schroeder is an elite poa defender. It’s the scheme from ham that cooked us. I’m sorry you can’t see it



“Miami elected to defend Denver's pick-and-roll between its best two players in a "drop coverage." When Jokić would set a screen for Murray, Adebayo camped out in the painted area instead of following his man to the level of the screen. Murray's defender, meanwhile, would chase over the top of the screen in pursuit.”

Everyone plays Denver with drop coverage because otherwise it leads to a parade of shots in the paint for them. Spo is far and away the best coach in the league and ran drop coverage most of the time.

But Murray still shot much better against the Lakers because Miami’s guards were better at closing out, not losing him. But there a ton of times Denver got Murray in isolation and he’d get to that 15 to 18 foot range and drop jumpers over Schroeder, Russell whoever. In fact he shot 50% from the floor in that 15 to 20 foot range in the series. Because he knew he always had that shot against the Lakers defenders.

Sorry I like Schroeder but I’m not as convinced that he’s this great lock down defender. He’s a good defender but he’s not a guy that is going to really slow down a great guard who has it going. And Murray knew he could get us shot off on any of the Lakers guards at any point. I don’t understand how that wasn’t plain as day to you watching that series.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#168 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:27 pm

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2023/6/17/23764311/3-trades-rumors-lakers-nba-draft-malik-beasley-mo-bamba-buddy-hield-royce-oneale-gary-trent-jr
3 trade scenarios

Lakers receive: Royce O’Neale, No. 21 pick and a future second

Nets receive: Mo Bamba and the No. 17 pick

I like the first one, acquiring a 3&D player like Royce O'Neal. Career 38.6% from 3.
Lakers receive: Buddy Hield, No. 26 and No. 32

Pacers receive: Malik Beasley and No. 17



meh on this one. Not sure if Hield is so much better than Beasley.
Lakers receive: Gary Trent Jr and a future second

Raptors receive: Malik Beasley, Shaq Harrison and No. 17

I'm okay with this too.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#169 » by SK21209 » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:05 pm

I'd love to nab Porzingis and I think Beasley/Bamba/17 could get it done considering he's on a one-year deal. Porzingis was pretty damn good protecting the rim this season and I like AD more in the roaming around at the 4 role defensively.
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LAKERS OFF-SEASON’23 Blueprint w $$$$ 

Post#170 » by LakersLegacy » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:43 pm

:D

If Los Angeles does what it likely should wipes the books of three players, none of Harrison, Bamba, Beasley are that impactful or in the rotation (team options) then the team will have $40.08 million in projected cap space and $68.08 million in projected luxury tax space.

Without doing that, the Lakers would have far less, just $10.84 million in projected cap space and $38.84.

So Lakers will likely do that and try to sign some combination of:

REEVES (likely 12 to 20)
RUI (likely 12 to 20)
CP3 (long term security back loaded, wants max total guaranteed money before retirement and to win 1st championship)
GREEN (long term security back loaded, wants 27.5 this year + additional years)
HOWARD (min or slightly more + defensive opportunity to stop the new generation of bigs)

The Lakers can use different strategies to get to the same total contract amount and balancing the luxury tax by for example having their deals spike up at the end of their contracts after the new higher salary cap takes place next summer. This is the final year of these salary cap rules. The new deal with have streaming by either Disney (HULU, ABC, ESPN), Amazon+ (like Thursday night football) or Netflix entering live sports likely resulting in at least a 25% increase to the salary cap. Likely to be smoothed into this time to prevent a MVP from joining a record breaking winning championship team. Thus the new salary cap increased amount should be utilized by win now teams with prime and older players. For example the Nuggets should keep all role players because even if they pay a little tax this year, the next 4 years would not have tax and they can maximize their potential dynasty window (can Jokic do what Duncan never did and actually defend the title)

I hope the Lakers don’t get Draymond even though the Lakers need a big defender. Because I just don’t like dirty players. And he is perhaps the dirtiest.

Let’s keep Reeves, Rui + Davis, LeBron, Vando core + try to get CP3, a defensive big and get Howard back to have an extra big body that has successfully slowed down and helped us beat the Joker. The West has bigs now with Joker, Davis, KAT+Gobert, VicW. The West is again similar to the bigs of the past Duncan, Garnett, Gasols and to win a team likely needs to win big in 2024 and likely 2025 as well.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#171 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:14 am

Take it with a grain of salt but here is Anthony Irwin’s update Russell, Bamba and Beasley.

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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#172 » by TyCobb » Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:15 am

What’s the update?
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#173 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:17 am

TyCobb wrote:What’s the update?


Just linked it…sorry didn’t link the first time
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#174 » by stan francisco » Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:01 pm

What does he say after the bit about CP3? Not subscribing but curious. I think CP3 becomes a Clipper.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#175 » by danfantastk32 » Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:30 pm

Yet another one! I've been saying this one for a while.....

-- "Dame is on the record saying he doesn't want to play with young players," said Brian Windhorst on ESPN on Tuesday morning. "He wants veteran help now. I've gone back and checked if Dame still feels that way and the answer I received was a forceful 'yes.'"

The Blazers don't necessarily need to trade the No. 3 pick, but they almost certainly need to make some sort of deal that appeases Lillard.

"If the Blazers don't move that No. 3 pick, which is their best asset, and they draft Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller and say 'This is how we're going forward,' I can't predict what Dame will go in the following days," added Windhorst. --



This is exactly what I've been talking about. I'm telling you....make an AD trade right now. The iron is hot, but for how long? Blazers have a #3 pick. We could prob get that AND a couple decent things to boot. Dame has them desperate to do something. I think the Lakers are fools to try and keep the band together. CP3 is gonna be just another broke down car in the garage, come playoff time.

This is very frustrating. The Lakers have to recognize the opportunity, and take it. Make this move, and then trade Lebron. It'll suck for a year, but it's always refreshing seeing new faces anyhow. Youth and opportunity. We could prob get a mid-to late first round for Lebron, a couple seconds, and then take back a 1-2 year baddish contract. Suddenly we're back in business. Could prob absorb another bad 1 year contract for a 2nd round pick from a team. Start piling them up.

I know it's not sexy, and it's not the way we Laker fans like to do it. But I promise you that AD will never be this hot of a commodity again. We will look back at this time next year.....with Lebron CLEARLY over....and AD having missed the playoffs, and having lost all trade value....and regret not pulling the trigger when we had a moment.

#3 pick!! I mean come on!!
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#176 » by TylersLakers » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:33 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2023/6/17/23764311/3-trades-rumors-lakers-nba-draft-malik-beasley-mo-bamba-buddy-hield-royce-oneale-gary-trent-jr
3 trade scenarios

Lakers receive: Royce O’Neale, No. 21 pick and a future second

Nets receive: Mo Bamba and the No. 17 pick

I like the first one, acquiring a 3&D player like Royce O'Neal. Career 38.6% from 3.
Lakers receive: Buddy Hield, No. 26 and No. 32

Pacers receive: Malik Beasley and No. 17



meh on this one. Not sure if Hield is so much better than Beasley.
Lakers receive: Gary Trent Jr and a future second

Raptors receive: Malik Beasley, Shaq Harrison and No. 17

I'm okay with this too.


I'd do all these deals.

Beasley, Bamba, Vando, Christie, #17 for DeRozan and Caruso.

I've been beating this drum for the last month.

LeBron: $46.9
AD: $40.6
DeRozan: $28.6
Caruso: $9.5
Reaves: $12.2
Rui: $15.0

$153M salary. 6 bonafide playoff guys.

- Re-sign Russell to a team friendly deal, 2 years starting at 15M
- Sign Chris Paul, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday to vet minimums
- Sign Troy Brown, Wenyen Gabriel to vet minimum deals from last years roster
- Sign Plumlee to tax MLE

PG: Paul/Russell/A Holiday
SG: Reaves/Caruso/J Holiday
SF: DeRozan/Brown Jr/
PF: LeBron/Rui/
C: Davis/Plumlee/Gabriel

That's a deadly playoff roster. Paul/Reaves/DeRozan/LeBron/Davis/Caruso/Rui are for sure playoff guys in the deepest rounds of the playoffs. Russell will be able to hang until he's schemed out in the later rounds against the great teams.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#177 » by Showtime:Part2 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:21 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
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Jamal Murray only had 33% of his shots assisted, guys like Gordon and Brown were in the 60% and 80% for the series. What you are forgetting is when we doubled, it wasn’t off if Murray. It was off of Gordon and Brown and Green. Everything Murray did was off of ISO or PNR and he wrecked us. That’s great that Schroeder held Curry to 28 a game…but Murray wrecked him. And D Lo was unplayable. We needed a guard that could stay in front of Murray and we didn’t get that from any of our dudes.


We played drop to cheat on joker, of course it will show as unassisted. If you’ve always got your eye on jokic, it’s tough to stay on Murray. look at kcps and mpjs shooting against us vs against other series. It’s all bc joker was finding them wide open. Again you’re ignoring what actually has led to championships. Size (bucks, nuggets, lakers) or Steph curry.

And if you’re going to use exaggerated stats like pointing out Steph’s series ppg (which was actually 26.5), and not point out his head to head matchup against schroeder, you should also point out the efficiency 44% and 34%. Again schroeder is an elite poa defender. It’s the scheme from ham that cooked us. I’m sorry you can’t see it



“Miami elected to defend Denver's pick-and-roll between its best two players in a "drop coverage." When Jokić would set a screen for Murray, Adebayo camped out in the painted area instead of following his man to the level of the screen. Murray's defender, meanwhile, would chase over the top of the screen in pursuit.”

Everyone plays Denver with drop coverage because otherwise it leads to a parade of shots in the paint for them. Spo is far and away the best coach in the league and ran drop coverage most of the time.

But Murray still shot much better against the Lakers because Miami’s guards were better at closing out, not losing him. But there a ton of times Denver got Murray in isolation and he’d get to that 15 to 18 foot range and drop jumpers over Schroeder, Russell whoever. In fact he shot 50% from the floor in that 15 to 20 foot range in the series. Because he knew he always had that shot against the Lakers defenders.

Sorry I like Schroeder but I’m not as convinced that he’s this great lock down defender. He’s a good defender but he’s not a guy that is going to really slow down a great guard who has it going. And Murray knew he could get us shot off on any of the Lakers guards at any point. I don’t understand how that wasn’t plain as day to you watching that series.



Gotta agree to disagree man. I distinctly rmr Schroeder yelling at the coaching staff in game 1 or 2 (I can’t rmr which tbh but I rmr jvg screaming about it) bc they kept making him go under the screen, not over. What do you want the guy to do if the coach is forcing him to go under? Jamal Murray is now better than Steph curry? I mean we have two series sample of ja and Steph playing well below their standards then against Denver our coaching staff goes full (Please Use More Appropriate Word) and only worried about jokic… that’s what happens. You act like we need prime Jason Kidd at Pg to win it all. We were a bad scheme and some bad calls away from legit winning every game (every game margin was very tight). If the lakers listened to you enjoy losing 30 games as rui plays the 5 with ad sitting half the season. We can’t even beat the fcking rockets without ad. And again, outside of the greatest shooter of all time, it’s size winning rings. Not midgets. The small ball jerk off session on realgm is so silly
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Prince + filler for Kobe Bryant

To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#178 » by Showtime:Part2 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:31 am

We should try to get gafford if porzingis tier bigs are unavailable. Efficient at the rim and a good rebounder and seems to have the size to bang down low although no idea what if he’s actually a good defender
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Prince + filler for Kobe Bryant

To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#179 » by IceManBK1 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:12 am

Call me crazy but would anyone do this trade? Simmons is pretty much dead weight on the Nets right now. Atrocious contract. But he's still only 27, but can really help us if he gets back to playing his best bball.

Simmons+Royce O'Neal for Beasley/Bamba/Lonnie Walker

Dlo
Reaves
Lbj
Simmons
AD

Schroeder
Royce
Rui
Vanderbilt
Naz Reid?
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Post#180 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:39 am

TylersLakers wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2023/6/17/23764311/3-trades-rumors-lakers-nba-draft-malik-beasley-mo-bamba-buddy-hield-royce-oneale-gary-trent-jr
3 trade scenarios

Lakers receive: Royce O’Neale, No. 21 pick and a future second

Nets receive: Mo Bamba and the No. 17 pick

I like the first one, acquiring a 3&D player like Royce O'Neal. Career 38.6% from 3.
Lakers receive: Buddy Hield, No. 26 and No. 32

Pacers receive: Malik Beasley and No. 17



meh on this one. Not sure if Hield is so much better than Beasley.
Lakers receive: Gary Trent Jr and a future second

Raptors receive: Malik Beasley, Shaq Harrison and No. 17

I'm okay with this too.


I'd do all these deals.

Beasley, Bamba, Vando, Christie, #17 for DeRozan and Caruso.

I've been beating this drum for the last month.

LeBron: $46.9
AD: $40.6
DeRozan: $28.6
Caruso: $9.5
Reaves: $12.2
Rui: $15.0

$153M salary. 6 bonafide playoff guys.

- Re-sign Russell to a team friendly deal, 2 years starting at 15M
- Sign Chris Paul, Aaron Holiday, Justin Holiday to vet minimums
- Sign Troy Brown, Wenyen Gabriel to vet minimum deals from last years roster
- Sign Plumlee to tax MLE

PG: Paul/Russell/A Holiday
SG: Reaves/Caruso/J Holiday
SF: DeRozan/Brown Jr/
PF: LeBron/Rui/
C: Davis/Plumlee/Gabriel

That's a deadly playoff roster. Paul/Reaves/DeRozan/LeBron/Davis/Caruso/Rui are for sure playoff guys in the deepest rounds of the playoffs. Russell will be able to hang until he's schemed out in the later rounds against the great teams.



Malik Beasley and vando... for trent Jr and a second round pick

Bamba, D'Angelo (first year garunteed only) and #17 for Caruso and DeRozan


but the trade that I feel is most important for the Lakers is trading AD to Portland.... AD for sharpe, Simmons, and #3. we can flip #3, Beasley, Bamba to Brooklyn for bridges and claxton

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