Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back

[Rapaz]

That offseason plan left an awful stench in this room.

[marson]

Rapaz IRL bodies Heat fans

[Timantha]

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Looks like Boston or Atlanta might be getting Ayton

[dean456]

Here's my plan for the offseason! I'm sorry you're going to hate it.

Lowry + Oladipo + #18 to cap space team (e.g.; Spurs, Jazz, Rockets--who might need it if they strike out on Harden, or Wiz)
Buy into 2nd round: target one of these 3 (in this order):

Marcus Sasser (PG/SG, 6-2, 196, 6-7 ws) older college prospect who was brilliant at Houston
Tristan Vukčević (PF, 7-0, 223, 7-2 ws) tall, thin, serbian forward, good shooter, good passer
Jalen Wilson (F, 6-6, 230, 6-8 ws) solid forward prospect, too small to be pf though, decent 3p shootr



Add another prospect from summer league (preferably a good forward)
Vet min pg can be Dragic or Westbrick. Won't play much, esp if we draft Sasser, who would get lots of time too.

I run with Vincent-Herro-Butler-Martin-Bam. DRob, Highsmith, Love first off the bench. During regular season give Butler plenty of rest. Herro & Bam lead the team most nights. Play Jovic, Cain, Highsmith, Yurtseven, and rookies a ton. Find a sponsor who has a middle-finger raised as a company logo.

Something like this:



Goal of making playoffs is pretty easy. At deadline if we have a good team that just needs reinforcements, make a trade. Use salaries to match target. Don't be stupid.

This would be a seriously depressing offseason after making the finals. bringing back the same team minus Lowry, Strus and losing our #18 pick?

I doubt we get teams to absorb 40mil in salaries. Rockets I believe have plans with their cap room, I'm not sure what Utah are doing. SA might be willing, maybe but at the same time I don't think #18 would be enough for that amount of money.

It's basically like asking SA to spend 40 million dollars to buy our 18th pick.

I have suggested for teams to absorb Herro's 27mil contract mostly because it gets them a good young player for little cost, but even I recognize that would be a stretch. Would be more likely to do Lowry and a pick for McDermott and 17mil back. Then we'd just waive and stretch Oladipo. Then SA would get an asset and still have like 28mil cap room to play with.

[3ballbomber]

Here's my plan for the offseason! I'm sorry you're going to hate it.

Spoiler:

Lowry + Oladipo + #18 to cap space team (e.g.; Spurs, Jazz, Rockets--who might need it if they strike out on Harden, or Wiz)
Buy into 2nd round: target one of these 3 (in this order):

Marcus Sasser (PG/SG, 6-2, 196, 6-7 ws) older college prospect who was brilliant at Houston
Tristan Vukčević (PF, 7-0, 223, 7-2 ws) tall, thin, serbian forward, good shooter, good passer
Jalen Wilson (F, 6-6, 230, 6-8 ws) solid forward prospect, too small to be pf though, decent 3p shootr



Add another prospect from summer league (preferably a good forward)

Vet min pg can be Dragic or Westbrick. Won't play much, esp if we draft Sasser, who would get lots of time too.

I run with Vincent-Herro-Butler-Martin-Bam. DRob, Highsmith, Love first off the bench. During regular season give Butler plenty of rest. Herro & Bam lead the team most nights. Play Jovic, Cain, Highsmith, Yurtseven, and rookies a ton. Find a sponsor who has a middle-finger raised as a company logo.

Something like this:



Goal of making playoffs is pretty easy. At deadline if we have a good team that just needs reinforcements, make a trade. Use salaries to match target. Don't be stupid.

[dean456]

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Looks like Boston or Atlanta might be getting Ayton

Please be Boston.

Watch them trade Smart and Williams to the Suns for Ayton.

Would make Boston so much worse.

But would be great for the suns. That way you have Smart at PG to guard the opposing teams best player and have Williams just have to play defense, set screens and rebound.

Not sure what ATL would be trading I'd assume Capella and something else but nothing really works cap wise.

[gom]

Here's my plan for the offseason! I'm sorry you're going to hate it.

Lowry + Oladipo + #18 to cap space team (e.g.; Spurs, Jazz, Rockets--who might need it if they strike out on Harden, or Wiz)
Buy into 2nd round: target one of these 3 (in this order):

Marcus Sasser (PG/SG, 6-2, 196, 6-7 ws) older college prospect who was brilliant at Houston
Tristan Vukčević (PF, 7-0, 223, 7-2 ws) tall, thin, serbian forward, good shooter, good passer
Jalen Wilson (F, 6-6, 230, 6-8 ws) solid forward prospect, too small to be pf though, decent 3p shootr



Add another prospect from summer league (preferably a good forward)
Vet min pg can be Dragic or Westbrick. Won't play much, esp if we draft Sasser, who would get lots of time too.

I run with Vincent-Herro-Butler-Martin-Bam. DRob, Highsmith, Love first off the bench. During regular season give Butler plenty of rest. Herro & Bam lead the team most nights. Play Jovic, Cain, Highsmith, Yurtseven, and rookies a ton. Find a sponsor who has a middle-finger raised as a company logo.

Something like this:



Goal of making playoffs is pretty easy. At deadline if we have a good team that just needs reinforcements, make a trade. Use salaries to match target. Don't be stupid.

This would be a seriously depressing offseason after making the finals. bringing back the same team minus Lowry, Strus and losing our #18 pick?

I doubt we get teams to absorb 40mil in salaries. Rockets I believe have plans with their cap room, I'm not sure what Utah are doing. SA might be willing, maybe but at the same time I don't think #18 would be enough for that amount of money.

It's basically like asking SA to spend 40 million dollars to buy our 18th pick.

I have suggested for teams to absorb Herro's 27mil contract mostly because it gets them a good young player for little cost, but even I recognize that would be a stretch. Would be more likely to do Lowry and a pick for McDermott and 17mil back. Then they'd get an asset and still have like 28mil cap room to play with.

Sorry this makes you sad but it gives us a great chance to have max flexibility at the trade deadline.

San Antonio must hit minimum salary anyhow, so they're not spending money they wouldn't spend. They or another team should be happy to add a veteran champion. And another vet too.

[dean456]

Here's my plan for the offseason! I'm sorry you're going to hate it.

Lowry + Oladipo + #18 to cap space team (e.g.; Spurs, Jazz, Rockets--who might need it if they strike out on Harden, or Wiz)
Buy into 2nd round: target one of these 3 (in this order):

Marcus Sasser (PG/SG, 6-2, 196, 6-7 ws) older college prospect who was brilliant at Houston
Tristan Vukčević (PF, 7-0, 223, 7-2 ws) tall, thin, serbian forward, good shooter, good passer
Jalen Wilson (F, 6-6, 230, 6-8 ws) solid forward prospect, too small to be pf though, decent 3p shootr



Add another prospect from summer league (preferably a good forward)
Vet min pg can be Dragic or Westbrick. Won't play much, esp if we draft Sasser, who would get lots of time too.

I run with Vincent-Herro-Butler-Martin-Bam. DRob, Highsmith, Love first off the bench. During regular season give Butler plenty of rest. Herro & Bam lead the team most nights. Play Jovic, Cain, Highsmith, Yurtseven, and rookies a ton. Find a sponsor who has a middle-finger raised as a company logo.

Something like this:



Goal of making playoffs is pretty easy. At deadline if we have a good team that just needs reinforcements, make a trade. Use salaries to match target. Don't be stupid.

This would be a seriously depressing offseason after making the finals. bringing back the same team minus Lowry, Strus and losing our #18 pick?

I doubt we get teams to absorb 40mil in salaries. Rockets I believe have plans with their cap room, I'm not sure what Utah are doing. SA might be willing, maybe but at the same time I don't think #18 would be enough for that amount of money.

It's basically like asking SA to spend 40 million dollars to buy our 18th pick.

I have suggested for teams to absorb Herro's 27mil contract mostly because it gets them a good young player for little cost, but even I recognize that would be a stretch. Would be more likely to do Lowry and a pick for McDermott and 17mil back. Then they'd get an asset and still have like 28mil cap room to play with.

Sorry this makes you sad but it gives us a great chance to have max flexibility at the trade deadline.

San Antonio must hit minimum salary anyhow, so they're not spending money they wouldn't spend. They or another team should be happy to add a veteran champion. And another vet too.

But they would probably prefer to spend that money on players to surround Wemby, rather than guys that will neither play or be bought out.

[RexBoyWonder]

Lavine is young enough and talented enough to fool me into believing he can get to another level within Miami's system.

If we can get him for Lowry + Duncan + 2 picks, I'd probably do it.

We need scoring in the worst way, he can provide that, just needs to improve his BB IQ, make the game simpler for him, and be more focus on defense. That's why we have Spo.

[dean456]

Lavine is young enough and talented enough to fool me into believing he can get to another level within Miami's system.

If we can get him for Lowry + Duncan + 2 picks, I'd probably do it.

We need scoring in the worst way, he can provide that, just needs to improve his BB IQ, make the game simpler for him, and be more focus on defense. That's why we have Spo.

I just can't get on board with Lavine. Every time we play Chicago I never feel his impact on the court.

If we trade 2 picks that will be all we have except our 2030FRP to trade. So at that point Lavine's your guy and locked in until you unlock 2-3 more picks which would be in another 4-6yrs.

You'd only really have Herro as a means to upgrade and being a 3rd-4th string how high will his value be?

I just can't bet on Lavine/Jimmy/Bam trio for the next 4yrs.

We need someone who can take the load offensively in the regular season and can score come playoff time. Lavine might score more in the regular season but Jimmy would still have to be the go to guy come playoff time in that scenario.

I think it's likely going to be Lillard or bust unfortunately.

[gom]

But they would probably prefer to spend that money on players to surround Wemby, rather than guys that will neither play or be bought out.

I'm sure Lowry will want to be bought out so he can finish his career in Toronto, but even if not, it's an expiring contract. San Antonio and other teams cleared space to take contracts for draft capital. Pick 18 is a good return.

[VaDe255]

My prediction for 2023-24 season:

- They run it back, because there is nothing they can get with limited assets and the cap hell situation
- They are obviously too cheap as well (Beal deal clearly showed the FO true colors) and don't pull the trigger when a good opportunity to upgrade the roster presents itself
- End up anywhere between 5-10
- Bounce in the playin or 1st round this time

Then we can talk next offseason about trading JB and rebuilding around Bam.
I don't like it, because the time to go allin or start a rebuild is now, but it's gonna happen.

[ShulaDon92]

A bunch of hack reporters convinced we failed to get Beal. ok, Brehz. Deal in lies.

We run it back and find a strong scoring PF we can use to split minutes with Love until Jovic is ready.

We dont need anything else.


-SHULA

[ShulaDon92]

These hack reporters will never write a book in their lives. They deal in spam. It's a sad life they live.

"Its just a job, bro!"

But then they cook players going ham for not going ham. The irony of pencil pushing.

All these hacks do is sell "santa is coming" to little internet addicts.

These hack writers do not pass the Riley/Spo body fat requirements!

Sad!

-SHULA DeSantis

[ShulaDon92]

Watch on YouTube

Ai taking over all the hack jobs! Hail satan!

-SHULA

[wade44]

A buddy Hield should be our next guy. 18th pick plus matching salary

[HeatIn5]

Here's my plan for the offseason! I'm sorry you're going to hate it.

Lowry + Oladipo + #18 to cap space team (e.g.; Spurs, Jazz, Rockets--who might need it if they strike out on Harden, or Wiz)
Buy into 2nd round: target one of these 3 (in this order):

Marcus Sasser (PG/SG, 6-2, 196, 6-7 ws) older college prospect who was brilliant at Houston
Tristan Vukčević (PF, 7-0, 223, 7-2 ws) tall, thin, serbian forward, good shooter, good passer
Jalen Wilson (F, 6-6, 230, 6-8 ws) solid forward prospect, too small to be pf though, decent 3p shootr



Add another prospect from summer league (preferably a good forward)
Vet min pg can be Dragic or Westbrick. Won't play much, esp if we draft Sasser, who would get lots of time too.

I run with Vincent-Herro-Butler-Martin-Bam. DRob, Highsmith, Love first off the bench. During regular season give Butler plenty of rest. Herro & Bam lead the team most nights. Play Jovic, Cain, Highsmith, Yurtseven, and rookies a ton. Find a sponsor who has a middle-finger raised as a company logo.

Something like this:



Goal of making playoffs is pretty easy. At deadline if we have a good team that just needs reinforcements, make a trade. Use salaries to match target. Don't be stupid.

I’m not giving up 18+ expiring contracts for nothing. If we are giving up 18 we better be getting off Duncan’s contract.

18 + Lowry/Dipo has positive value

[Pokuokic]

Micic (2 time Eurleague MVP) is in OKC currently the OKC thunder have his draft rights but they have SGA/Giddy at the point Heat should be all over it to get a cheapish sixth man/border line starter at the PG. He's a biggish PG and is in his prime atm 29/30 and has heaps of experience in big games/carrying a team in big moments. Unlike past Euroleague PG's coming over later he's athletic/strong enough to play in the NBA.

[BBallFreak]

Here's my plan for the offseason! I'm sorry you're going to hate it.

Lowry + Oladipo + #18 to cap space team (e.g.; Spurs, Jazz, Rockets--who might need it if they strike out on Harden, or Wiz)
Buy into 2nd round: target one of these 3 (in this order):

Marcus Sasser (PG/SG, 6-2, 196, 6-7 ws) older college prospect who was brilliant at Houston
Tristan Vukčević (PF, 7-0, 223, 7-2 ws) tall, thin, serbian forward, good shooter, good passer
Jalen Wilson (F, 6-6, 230, 6-8 ws) solid forward prospect, too small to be pf though, decent 3p shootr



Add another prospect from summer league (preferably a good forward)
Vet min pg can be Dragic or Westbrick. Won't play much, esp if we draft Sasser, who would get lots of time too.

I run with Vincent-Herro-Butler-Martin-Bam. DRob, Highsmith, Love first off the bench. During regular season give Butler plenty of rest. Herro & Bam lead the team most nights. Play Jovic, Cain, Highsmith, Yurtseven, and rookies a ton. Find a sponsor who has a middle-finger raised as a company logo.

Something like this:



Goal of making playoffs is pretty easy. At deadline if we have a good team that just needs reinforcements, make a trade. Use salaries to match target. Don't be stupid.

I’m not giving up 18+ expiring contracts for nothing. If we are giving up 18 we better be getting off Duncan’s contract.

I would agree that Robinson should be the player moved with the 18th pick, though I would doubt we'd be fortunate enough to get nothing in return for him. He's definitely increased his value though which might make him movable. Trading him for an expiring contract would have a huge positive effect on our cap sheet, which with the second apron, has to be considered a massive plus.

18 + Lowry/Dipo has positive value

To the right team, I agree, it does have some value, but so does dumping those two into cap space. Of course, it doesn't have the same long-term effect that dumping Robinson would have and therefore isn't a smart move IMO. The restrictions of the new second apron won't fully take effect for another two years, but both Lowry and Oladipo expire next year.

Miami needs to make a choice - are they going to try and win thrifty, or are they going commit, monetarily?

[contract]

Here's my plan for the offseason! I'm sorry you're going to hate it.

Lowry + Oladipo + #18 to cap space team (e.g.; Spurs, Jazz, Rockets--who might need it if they strike out on Harden, or Wiz)
Buy into 2nd round: target one of these 3 (in this order):

Marcus Sasser (PG/SG, 6-2, 196, 6-7 ws) older college prospect who was brilliant at Houston
Tristan Vukčević (PF, 7-0, 223, 7-2 ws) tall, thin, serbian forward, good shooter, good passer
Jalen Wilson (F, 6-6, 230, 6-8 ws) solid forward prospect, too small to be pf though, decent 3p shootr



Add another prospect from summer league (preferably a good forward)
Vet min pg can be Dragic or Westbrick. Won't play much, esp if we draft Sasser, who would get lots of time too.

I run with Vincent-Herro-Butler-Martin-Bam. DRob, Highsmith, Love first off the bench. During regular season give Butler plenty of rest. Herro & Bam lead the team most nights. Play Jovic, Cain, Highsmith, Yurtseven, and rookies a ton. Find a sponsor who has a middle-finger raised as a company logo.

Spoiler:

Something like this:

Goal of making playoffs is pretty easy. At deadline if we have a good team that just needs reinforcements, make a trade. Use salaries to match target. Don't be stupid.

Love, Yurt, and Robinson? What the hell do we need with 3 backup centers who can't play?