Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Looking like Bucks keep Mids, Brook, Jae

[Frank Nova]

#3 or Dame are all I want from Portland. Simons does nothing for me.

Simons and 23 for Bobby and Grayson would be okay with me tbh. Simons is a nice fit at SG (rather have IQ but whatever) and 23 could land us a nice prospect while accomplishing what was reported the other day, opening room for Marjon to take on a larger role.

Simons, Marjon and 23 is a decent way to provide some semblance of youth for the future in 3yrs when this team has completely 180’d and looks nothing like it does now..

[ShootingtheJ]

Simons is a PG, a good player, and will improve when he gets done playing for the leagues worst coach, Billups.

His speed and shooting would be an asset here. Quickley is another good option.

[jakecronus8]

Simons is a PG, a good player, and will improve when he gets done playing for the leagues worst coach, Billups.

His speed and shooting would be an asset here. Quickley is another good option.

I’m very interested in Simons fit here. He’s like if Brandon Knight was good

ETA: I don’t want to move Jrue but if there’s some sort of deal with New Orleans (since they are hell bent on Scoot) where we end up with Simons and Dyson Daniels, Portland gets Jrue and New Orleans gets scoot it needs to happen.

Eta2: simple

Portland gets: Jrue, 14th pick
New Orleans gets: #3 pick (Scoot)
Bucks get: Simons, Daniels, #23 pick

[ShootingtheJ]

Simons is a PG, a good player, and will improve when he gets done playing for the leagues worst coach, Billups.

His speed and shooting would be an asset here. Quickley is another good option.

I’m very interested in Simons fit here. He’s like if Brandon Knight was good

ETA: I don’t want to move Jrue but if there’s some sort of deal with New Orleans (since they are hell bent on Scoot) where we end up with Simons and Dyson Daniels, Portland gets Jrue and New Orleans gets scoot it needs to happen.

Agree. Simons and Knight are similar except Simons makes shots. To score at Simons rate while carrying a 58 TS% is awfully impressive. Knight always carried terrible TS%. We need that shot making. Simons is also quicker than Knight.

Yes, I'd also love to add Trey Murphy and Dyson Daniels. I'd say we're on the same page.

[slos]

Looking forward Khris opting out his 40,4 mil PO to resign at 4/130 could set a nice example for Jrue. He also has a 39,4 PO next season, which he could decline to resign at 3/95. This is something to consider since 30 is the new 20 in NBA salaries. Which means you can keep the Big 3 for the next four seasons AND add another good player in the same range while paying Giannis his supermax money.

That said I'm putting Bobby/Pat/Allen + whatever assets are left (Marjon, 2029 FRP, swaps, 2nds) to create a Big 4 now. Beal has set a low market for overpaid "stars" which is exactly what Bucks can have with their limited assets. Maybe LaVine has fallen in our price range. Porzingis, McCollum, Herro, Poole could all be moved this offseason. Does Ayton fit with Giannis? I don't know.

All I'm saying is that we should explore every opportunity in the next 10 days. The new CBA starts at July 1, which means that until June 30 Bucks have the flexibility to do whatever they want. It won't be the same after that.

[TroyD92]

Looking forward Khris opting out his 40,4 mil PO to resign at 4/130 could set a nice example for Jrue. He also has a 39,4 PO next season, which he could decline to resign at 3/95. This is something to consider since 30 is the new 20 in NBA salaries. Which means you can keep the Big 3 for the next four seasons AND add another good player in the same range while paying Giannis his supermax money.

That said I'm putting Bobby/Pat/Allen + whatever assets are left (Marjon, 2029 FRP, swaps, 2nds) to create a Big 4 now. Beal has set a low market for overpaid "stars" which is exactly what Bucks can have with their limited assets. Maybe LaVine has fallen in our price range. Porzingis, McCollum, Herro, Poole could all be moved this offseason. Does Ayton fit with Giannis? I don't know.

All I'm saying is that we should explore every opportunity in the next 10 days. The new CBA starts at July 1, which means that until June 30 Bucks have the flexibility to do whatever they want. It won't be the same after that.

How?

[lightningrodman]

The Bucks don’t have a Big 3. I think if you shoot worse than 50% true shooting percentage for three consecutive postseasons, you get your Big 3 card revoked.

[fansinceforever]

I've seen this a lot but I can't understand it.

Why would Portland trade us Simons + pick #23 for Bobby Portis + Grayson Allen?

[TroyD92]

I've seen this a lot but I can't understand it.

Why would Portland trade us Simons + pick #23 for Bobby Portis + Grayson Allen?

Could make sense if they go all in for dame, but I doubt that’s the actual plan there.

[theFireBlanket]

Looking forward Khris opting out his 40,4 mil PO to resign at 4/130 could set a nice example for Jrue.

Jrue's committed to retiring at the end of his deal, don't think he'll be doing that.

[ShootingtheJ]

Looking forward Khris opting out his 40,4 mil PO to resign at 4/130 could set a nice example for Jrue.

Jrue's committed to retiring at the end of his deal, don't think he'll be doing that.

I don't believe he'll retire one bit. Jrue is the most charitable player in the league, and all he has to do to continue to be a Saint for his charities of choice is to continue to play basketball. He'll play.

[Frank Nova]

Looking forward Khris opting out his 40,4 mil PO to resign at 4/130 could set a nice example for Jrue.

Jrue's committed to retiring at the end of his deal, don't think he'll be doing that.

I don't believe he'll retire one bit. Jrue is the most charitable player in the league, and all he has to do to continue to be a Saint for his charities of choice is to continue to play basketball. He'll play.

I think Lauren Holidays health will play a major role in Jrues retirement decision. Jrue will play as long as he’s capable of playing if she’s healthy and active. The fact the Holidays are very charitable and love supporting their communities and black business owners and all that good stuff, they have 100s of millions of reasons to play basketball.

[slos]

Looking forward Khris opting out his 40,4 mil PO to resign at 4/130 could set a nice example for Jrue. He also has a 39,4 PO next season, which he could decline to resign at 3/95. This is something to consider since 30 is the new 20 in NBA salaries. Which means you can keep the Big 3 for the next four seasons AND add another good player in the same range while paying Giannis his supermax money.

That said I'm putting Bobby/Pat/Allen + whatever assets are left (Marjon, 2029 FRP, swaps, 2nds) to create a Big 4 now. Beal has set a low market for overpaid "stars" which is exactly what Bucks can have with their limited assets. Maybe LaVine has fallen in our price range. Porzingis, McCollum, Herro, Poole could all be moved this offseason. Does Ayton fit with Giannis? I don't know.

All I'm saying is that we should explore every opportunity in the next 10 days. The new CBA starts at July 1, which means that until June 30 Bucks have the flexibility to do whatever they want. It won't be the same after that.

How?

Suns are currently paying Booker, Beal, Durant, Ayton a combined 163 mil at the moment and all their wages are only going up.

Bucks can do the same. They just have to do it before the new CBA kicks in. And it will be easier to make it sustainable with Jrue and Midds on declining deals.

[TroyD92]

Looking forward Khris opting out his 40,4 mil PO to resign at 4/130 could set a nice example for Jrue. He also has a 39,4 PO next season, which he could decline to resign at 3/95. This is something to consider since 30 is the new 20 in NBA salaries. Which means you can keep the Big 3 for the next four seasons AND add another good player in the same range while paying Giannis his supermax money.

That said I'm putting Bobby/Pat/Allen + whatever assets are left (Marjon, 2029 FRP, swaps, 2nds) to create a Big 4 now. Beal has set a low market for overpaid "stars" which is exactly what Bucks can have with their limited assets. Maybe LaVine has fallen in our price range. Porzingis, McCollum, Herro, Poole could all be moved this offseason. Does Ayton fit with Giannis? I don't know.

All I'm saying is that we should explore every opportunity in the next 10 days. The new CBA starts at July 1, which means that until June 30 Bucks have the flexibility to do whatever they want. It won't be the same after that.

How?

Suns are currently paying Booker, Beal, Durant, Ayton a combined 163 mil at the moment and all their wages are only going up.

Bucks can do the same. They just have to do it before the new CBA kicks in. And it will be easier to make it sustainable with Jrue and Midds on declining deals.

I mean who's the chris paul in your head? The guy with a giant salary that can be traded for teams looking to get below the apron before the CBA kicks in? Who even are the guys out there that are available? Bobby/Pat/Allen is like 26m and have zero value to rebuilding teams. Derozan? Hayward? Julius Randle? Poole? All of these guys have major warts. You also are trading basically every tradeable asset for at best a slight upgrade.

[slos]

How?

Suns are currently paying Booker, Beal, Durant, Ayton a combined 163 mil at the moment and all their wages are only going up.

Bucks can do the same. They just have to do it before the new CBA kicks in. And it will be easier to make it sustainable with Jrue and Midds on declining deals.

I mean who's the chris paul in your head? The guy with a giant salary that can be traded for teams looking to get below the apron before the CBA kicks in? Who even are the guys out there that are available? Bobby/Pat/Allen is like 26m and have zero value to rebuilding teams. Derozan? Hayward? Julius Randle? Poole? All of these guys have major warts. You also are trading basically every tradeable asset for at best a slight upgrade.

Bobby + Pat + Allen is 30,1 mil combined. Add MarJon and you can match salaries even for LaVine at 40 mil. 3 or 4 for 1 trades are not rare offseason.

I’m also thinking about 3 team trades. Bobby for example might not have value for a rebuilding team, but he has value around the league.

I wouldn’t also downgrade the value of a slight upgrade if that’s all you can get. Bucks are already good. People tend to forget this. A new coach and a better starter than Allen could be enough to get you on top again.

[TroyD92]

Suns are currently paying Booker, Beal, Durant, Ayton a combined 163 mil at the moment and all their wages are only going up.

Bucks can do the same. They just have to do it before the new CBA kicks in. And it will be easier to make it sustainable with Jrue and Midds on declining deals.

I mean who's the chris paul in your head? The guy with a giant salary that can be traded for teams looking to get below the apron before the CBA kicks in? Who even are the guys out there that are available? Bobby/Pat/Allen is like 26m and have zero value to rebuilding teams. Derozan? Hayward? Julius Randle? Poole? All of these guys have major warts. You also are trading basically every tradeable asset for at best a slight upgrade.

Bobby + Pat + Allen is 30,1 mil combined. Add MarJon and you can match salaries even for LaVine at 40 mil. 3 or 4 for 1 trades are not rare offseason.

I’m also thinking about 3 team trades. Bobby for example might not have value for a rebuilding team, but he has value around the league.

I wouldn’t also downgrade the value of a slight upgrade if that’s all you can get. Bucks are already good. People tend to forget this. A new coach and a better starter than Allen could be enough to get you on top again.

Why would the Bulls trade Lavine for a bunch of mediocre players? Not sure if this is entirely legit, but

“One league source said the Bulls would be focused on getting a good young player, multiple first-round picks and salary filler if they decide to trade LaVine. Another said one first-round pick and an established, high-end player might be sufficiently intriguing.”

[JayMKE]

This team could reload and be ready to contend by next season, putting Giannis + 3 point shooters in the playoffs is "contending" anyways that's pretty much what we do. Bucks have to build for the future, there's no point even worrying about Giannis walking because he will if there isn't anything besides a burnt out husk of a franchise in his wake, being crackhead desperate is never a good look. Now of course Horst's dumbass will ruin any long term strategic thinking, we lucked into Giannis unfortunately just like the dumbasses on the Packers lucked into Rodgers so you have a lot of hanger ons who don't know what they're doing with too much job security.

[emunney]

I mean who's the chris paul in your head? The guy with a giant salary that can be traded for teams looking to get below the apron before the CBA kicks in? Who even are the guys out there that are available? Bobby/Pat/Allen is like 26m and have zero value to rebuilding teams. Derozan? Hayward? Julius Randle? Poole? All of these guys have major warts. You also are trading basically every tradeable asset for at best a slight upgrade.

Bobby + Pat + Allen is 30,1 mil combined. Add MarJon and you can match salaries even for LaVine at 40 mil. 3 or 4 for 1 trades are not rare offseason.

I’m also thinking about 3 team trades. Bobby for example might not have value for a rebuilding team, but he has value around the league.

I wouldn’t also downgrade the value of a slight upgrade if that’s all you can get. Bucks are already good. People tend to forget this. A new coach and a better starter than Allen could be enough to get you on top again.

Why would the Bulls trade Lavine for a bunch of mediocre players? Not sure if this is entirely legit, but

“One league source said the Bulls would be focused on getting a good young player, multiple first-round picks and salary filler if they decide to trade LaVine. Another said one first-round pick and an established, high-end player might be sufficiently intriguing.”

Maybe there's some play in "established, high-end player", but not sure why I'd trade one for LaVine.

[stillgotgame]

If Portland actually wants to keep Dame they gotta be sweating Miami’s non-move with Beal.

Pat Riley tends to do well in these scenarios. Blazers could be a team that can be taken advantage of.

I don’t know Simons well enough to have a strong opinion but he seems to check a lot of boxes for what we’d want if we are keeping the core 4 together.

Zero chance Miami's owner would sign off on Dame's contract in addition to Jimmy and Bam. Huge tax implications and he's cheap. This is a guy who amnestied Mike Miller while the Heatles were still playing for titles.

[paulpressey25]

Zero chance Miami's owner would sign off on Dame's contract in addition to Jimmy and Bam. Huge tax implications and he's cheap. This is a guy who amnestied Mike Miller while the Heatles were still playing for titles.

Heat have paid the luxury tax in 7 of the last 20 seasons. Mickey Arison is 73 and Pat Riley is 78. They'll pay the bill for Dame.