2023 NBA Draft Thread 4

[JoshuaPotter]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

I have heard of additional by subtraction. Would rather we just start waiving players.....

Especially if we have a tendency to just cash consideration 2nd rounders.....

[Knightro]

The guys at 6 all don't fit. And I mean they are really bad fits.

Are there are any rumors out there that we trade it for FVV?

Well VanVleet is a free agent and the Magic have cap space to offer him a huge contract if they’re so inclined.

So I don’t really see any reason to trade anything for him.

[VFX]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

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PRR (the Lock'd on Magic Host) is a joke. Nobody takes him seriously.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

I have heard of additional by subtraction. Would rather we just start waiving players.....

Especially if we have a tendency to just cash consideration 2nd rounders.....

Imagine if the FO actually made the right decision and gave Hartenstein Bamba’s deal.

[davey_wavy]

https://youtube.com/shorts/S1C_PV9cjrc?feature=share

Seems fitting for Draft Week..

LMAO, Suggs killed it, Paolo looked a bit uncomfy

Paolo: because opporTUNity comes once in a life time....

[IllMagic04]

I wouldn't rule out Hendricks personally.
I know forward isn't the biggest need in the world, but Hendricks looks the part of a low-usage, high-impact 3&D guy, and the backup forward situation is pretty awful.
Isaac is always injured, Okeke hasn't improved.

Hendricks would provide shooting, rim protection, and a solid defensive base for the bench.

I know it's illogical to draft a reserve at #6 overall, but it would fill a huge need for this team, and he would still probably be a BPA pick.

If, however, the team knows Fultz's shooting is always going to be an issue, and if they're not sold on Cole or Suggs longterm, then drafting a combo guard or PG makes sense at that position.

Enter Black, Wallace, Bufkin.

Yea I like Hendricks too. I feel like JI could mentor him as I see JI as more of a locker room guy at this point. They def hav some similarities though JI was def a better prospect at the same age.

If we draft a point guard like Black, then we roll with Markelle for another year as the starter and have Black as the backup. Letting him learn as a backup isn't a bad thing. Not sure what that would mean for Suggs though unless his shooting has drastically improved. We just can't start Fultz and Suggs if we are trying to win. I don't really wanna start Cole as I liked what he brought off the bench. Tough decisions are going to have to be made.

[thelead]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

Saw it come across my YT feed via algorithm last night (as I never watch that particular channel), clicked it, within a few minutes heard he thought we should trade a lotto pick for Hartenstein... and no BS... I immediately closed the video, went back to the YT homepage that recommended the video, and selected 'Don't recommend channel'

I was disgusted

[eyriq]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

Saw it come across my YT feed via algorithm last night (as I never watch that particular channel), clicked it, within a few minutes heard he thought we should trade a lotto pick for Hartenstein... and no BS... I immediately closed the video, went back to the YT homepage that recommended the video, and selected 'Don't recommend channel'

I was disgusted

My reaction as well. Pure disgust. I don't know how broken your mental model for this team needs to be to rationalize that mock draft and frankly I don't want to know.

[cedric76]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

Saw it come across my YT feed via algorithm last night (as I never watch that particular channel), clicked it, within a few minutes heard he thought we should trade a lotto pick for Hartenstein... and no BS... I immediately closed the video, went back to the YT homepage that recommended the video, and selected 'Don't recommend channel'

I was disgusted

My reaction as well. Pure disgust. I don't know how broken your mental model for this team needs to be to rationalize that mock draft and frankly I don't want to know.

Phil is clueless

[JoshuaPotter]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

Saw it come across my YT feed via algorithm last night (as I never watch that particular channel), clicked it, within a few minutes heard he thought we should trade a lotto pick for Hartenstein... and no BS... I immediately closed the video, went back to the YT homepage that recommended the video, and selected 'Don't recommend channel'

I was disgusted

My reaction as well. Pure disgust. I don't know how broken your mental model for this team needs to be to rationalize that mock draft and frankly I don't want to know.

He literally could have said, "Just draft Keyonte twice at 6/11" in an unprecedented move. That would make more sense....

Edit : it dawned on me, he is probably a closet Knicks fan....

[IllMagic04]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

Saw it come across my YT feed via algorithm last night (as I never watch that particular channel), clicked it, within a few minutes heard he thought we should trade a lotto pick for Hartenstein... and no BS... I immediately closed the video, went back to the YT homepage that recommended the video, and selected 'Don't recommend channel'

I was disgusted

I personally wouldn't take Grady at 6 but I believe his shooting is going to really wow teams in workouts. I believe he is off the board before 11. So, if we really want him, we got to take him at 6. I don' t think Dick at 6 is that wild of a take. That trade though

[eyriq]

One prediction I'm feeling increasingly confident in is that we only draft one player in the lottery. The crew say they are interviewing our lottery pick, singular. Is this anything?

Watch on YouTube

[Petre1978]

One prediction I'm feeling increasingly confident in is that we only draft one player in the lottery. The crew say they are interviewing our lottery pick, singular. Is this anything?

Watch on YouTube

Who could that be?

Also do they trade the 11th pick for a pick outside of the lottery?

[thelead]

Did any of you catch the Lock’d On Mock Draft?

The guy running the Magic took Grady Dick at #6, then traded #11 + Okeke to NY for Hartlestein and a future 2nd, saying he wanted to clear roster spots for vet free agents.

Reactions?

Saw it come across my YT feed via algorithm last night (as I never watch that particular channel), clicked it, within a few minutes heard he thought we should trade a lotto pick for Hartenstein... and no BS... I immediately closed the video, went back to the YT homepage that recommended the video, and selected 'Don't recommend channel'

I was disgusted

I personally wouldn't take Grady at 6 but I believe his shooting is going to really wow teams in workouts. I believe he is off the board before 11. So, if we really want him, we got to take him at 6. I don' t think Dick at 6 is that wild of a take. That trade though

Dick at 6 is way too high BUT I'll give anyone a pass on that. You never know with draft picks and he's somewhere in the ballpark/range... so I can dismiss that.... the proposed trade though, made me irrationally angry and absolutely disgusted.

[SOUL]

Nets 'Extremely Active' in Trade Discussions: "Nets are said to be extremely active in trade conversations, having the option of using one or both of their first-round picks (Nos. 21 and 22) with players such as Dorian Finney-Smith and Royce O'Neale to get to different spots in the draft if they desire"

I wouldn't hate potentially moving 11 for DFS or Royce and picking up 21 or 22. I don't think we'd receive both or want both.

Could see Hawkins/Howard/JHS/George or someone being available.

[Husky1]

Black should be the pick. He is a shot away from being a stud, and i don't think he is shot is as bad as the thompsons. It would give us flexibility with Fultz going foward, his 3pt shot has to improve otherwise, seeya! Then take Bufkin/George. Same flexibility with Cole and Suggs going forward. Our backcourt is our biggest issue. has been for years. Keep taking swings until we have our guys there.

[IllMagic04]

Saw it come across my YT feed via algorithm last night (as I never watch that particular channel), clicked it, within a few minutes heard he thought we should trade a lotto pick for Hartenstein... and no BS... I immediately closed the video, went back to the YT homepage that recommended the video, and selected 'Don't recommend channel'

I was disgusted

I personally wouldn't take Grady at 6 but I believe his shooting is going to really wow teams in workouts. I believe he is off the board before 11. So, if we really want him, we got to take him at 6. I don' t think Dick at 6 is that wild of a take. That trade though

Dick at 6 is way too high BUT I'll give anyone a pass on that. You never know with draft picks and he's somewhere in the ballpark/range... so I can dismiss that.... the proposed trade though, made me irrationally angry and absolutely disgusted.

well thankfully its not going to happen. If we do trade the pick I'm thinking it will be for a future first rounder

[IllMagic04]

Black should be the pick. He is a shot away from being a stud, and i don't think he is shot is as bad as the thompsons. It would give us flexibility with Fultz going foward, his 3pt shot has to improve otherwise, seeya! Then take Bufkin/George. Same flexibility with Cole and Suggs going forward. Our backcourt is our biggest issue. has been for years. Keep taking swings until we have our guys there.

I've heard this so many times with so many busts. Not only does his shot not go into the basket but its slow. I'm down to continue taken swings but lets swing at a prospect who projects to actually be able to spread the floor and open things for our studs instead of another non shooting PG.

In a world where we take Black he would be the backup behind Fultz year one. So are we giving up on Suggs as a ball handler? I'm fine with that but are we pegging him as a 2/combo guard? Cause his shot is going to need to get drastically better for that to work next to Black.

[RookieStar]

Cam looks like a classic case of a guy who was held back by choosing the wrong program to be a one and done. You can’t teach his size and aggression for a wing player and his shot is coming along nicely for a guy so physically developed for his age.

Im not sure what to make of his terrible AST% though. Was he just trying to get his while playing for a disappointing team that really missed Jay Wright?

Big question as far as fit - can he play the 2 next to alongside Franz and Paolo?

Poor Asst numbers AND almost non-existent rebounds despite playing the PF for the team.

[RookieStar]

Cam looks like a classic case of a guy who was held back by choosing the wrong program to be a one and done. You can’t teach his size and aggression for a wing player and his shot is coming along nicely for a guy so physically developed for his age.

Im not sure what to make of his terrible AST% though. Was he just trying to get his while playing for a disappointing team that really missed Jay Wright?

Big question as far as fit - can he play the 2 next to alongside Franz and Paolo?

The coach did admit they just threw him out there after he recovered from injury. So he missed all the off-season fundamental practices.

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I don't buy this excuse for his poor passing numbers. You don't need off-season fundamental practices to know that if you're being guarded by three players near the rim, a few of your teammates are wide open.

Agreed, On the games I streamed where I was shocked that he did not record a single rebound, I saw a lot of instances where despite the defense being set, he still elected to drive and initiate contact against the 6'10 defenders despite him being only 6'5 and there were a lot of open teammates.