Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season)

[watsonthedragon]

If Brogdon stays, trading Pritchard, #35 to Memphis for #25 seems like it might makes some sense to both teams.

IMO the talent gap between 25 and 35 is not enough to justify the guaranteed contract, especially with the new CBA. Early 2nds become much more valuable and late first become less.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[Dogen]

Yikes, that Youtuber is not parsing his words. I was overseas and saw none of that series. Was Ayton that bad? Or injured. Maybe it is the selected clips but he's made to look indifferent.

he was horrendous and not injured. Got benched for jock landale cause he just wasn't trying. 1000 % checked out, just watched jokic grab oreb after oreb.

Ok, I wasn't sure.

Yeah, pass on Ayton. Especially not with that contract, and the injury history.

Hmmm, not good. KG and Matt Barnes saying it's "between the ears" with Ayton, and Barnes agrees with steefP2 that Landale was giving them better minutes.

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[Celts17Pride]

If Brogdon stays, trading Pritchard, #35 to Memphis for #25 seems like it might makes some sense to both teams.

IMO the talent gap between 25 and 35 is not enough to justify the guaranteed contract, especially with the new CBA. Early 2nds become much more valuable and late first become less.

I hear you but if Brogdon stays then you have an unhappy player on your bench.

[Hal14]

If Brogdon stays, trading Pritchard, #35 to Memphis for #25 seems like it might makes some sense to both teams.

Not only that, but rumor has it, Tyus Jones might be traded our of Memphis soon. They want to move him to a team where he can be the starting PG.

So they will need a PG who is a capable backup - someone who is ok with coming off the bench.

Brogdon or Pritchard to Memphis!

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[watsonthedragon]

Pretty impressed with the pace of this thread considering there have been pretty much no rumors or news.

[Celts17Pride]

By the way, I think this whole 1st apron, 2nd apron, all the new rules for 2nd apron teams is going to be amended in about 2-3 years because it is going to kill all player movement and really be bad for players like Grant Williams who will eventually end up with $5-6 million contracts because teams just won't have room to pay players. It really favors the star players.

That's just my opinion.

[Riverwalk2021]

[Celts17Pride]

Pretty impressed with the pace of this thread considering there have been pretty much no rumors or news.

Your welcome!

[Hal14]

If Brogdon stays, trading Pritchard, #35 to Memphis for #25 seems like it might makes some sense to both teams.

IMO the talent gap between 25 and 35 is not enough to justify the guaranteed contract, especially with the new CBA. Early 2nds become much more valuable and late first become less.

I hear you but if Brogdon stays then you have an unhappy player on your bench.

We can always move Pritchard in a separate deal.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Salary dump would be bad news but I think if you unloaded Brogdon (Beasley/Bamba non-guarantees and pick 17) you could pay Grant and use the full MLE?

[Andrew McCeltic]

Brogdon to PHO, Ayton to OKC, 12 and a forward (Poku?) to Boston?

[chrisab123]

While Cs fans overvalue Grant, he can be had for a song.

Its not the fans. Its management. The same people who view Marcus Smart as essential when he has never won a title. I wouldn't be shocked if Brad tried bringing Semi back too. Just because you're jacked out of your mind doesn't mean you're good at basketball

I sense a lot of angst in this post.

No one on our roster has won a title hehe.

There is. If you have elite talents thats one thing but this team isn't good enough where good role players are untradeable.

[GoGreen]

The only thing worse than a fake rumor is no rumor at all...

Someone do something...

i know I'm aching for something over here!

[BostonCouchGM]

he was horrendous and not injured. Got benched for jock landale cause he just wasn't trying. 1000 % checked out, just watched jokic grab oreb after oreb.

Ok, I wasn't sure.

Yeah, pass on Ayton. Especially not with that contract, and the injury history.

Hmmm, not good. KG and Matt Barnes saying it's "between the ears" with Ayton, and Barnes agrees with steefP2 that Landale was giving them better minutes.

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Monty was a huge part of the issue and the Suns did Ayton dirty (in his mind which is all that matters anyway) so yeah, Ayton was essentially forced to play in PHO for an organization and HC he hated and he 100% mailed it in. I'm not giving Ayton a pass just saying that his on-court play was not a reflection of his actual talent. A change of scenery would do him wonders and then maybe we can see what he's actually capable of when he's not relegated to 5th on the totem pole.

[Bar Fight]

All this guard "depth" and Caleb Martin and Gabe Vincent were the best guards in the ECF. Get rid of all these **** dudes for all I care.

[GoGreen]

All this guard "depth" and Caleb Martin and Gabe Vincent were the best guards in the ECF. Get rid of all these **** dudes for all I care.

Yup agreed. I say keep White and maybe plop Marcus on the bench, but if we can find a better fit, he can go too.

[Andrew McCeltic]

By the way, I think this whole 1st apron, 2nd apron, all the new rules for 2nd apron teams is going to be amended in about 2-3 years because it is going to kill all player movement and really be bad for players like Grant Williams who will eventually end up with $5-6 million contracts because teams just won't have room to pay players. It really favors the star players.

That's just my opinion.

Could be Adam Silver’s first bad move as commissioner.

Keep in mind only a handful of teams were above 179 million this season and only a handful are in imminent danger of breaching it just to keep their team together..

Not sure how it’ll play out - they didn’t design the agreement to not work.. it’s parity focused, which is no fun for fans of really good teams.

[GoCeltics123]

By the way, I think this whole 1st apron, 2nd apron, all the new rules for 2nd apron teams is going to be amended in about 2-3 years because it is going to kill all player movement and really be bad for players like Grant Williams who will eventually end up with $5-6 million contracts because teams just won't have room to pay players. It really favors the star players.

That's just my opinion.

Could be Adam Silver’s first bad move as commissioner.

Keep in mind only a handful of teams were above 179 million this season and only a handful are in imminent danger of breaching it just to keep their team together..

Not sure how it’ll play out - they didn’t design the agreement to not work.. it’s parity focused, which is no fun for fans of really good teams.

He's made a lot of terrible moves already

[Andrew McCeltic]

Best/worst times of year are trade deadline week and late June/early July. Fun but... I need whatever the opposite of Adderall is. Just made a spreadsheet of hypothetical Boston payrolls and searched 'NBA trade rumors' for the fifteen time.