Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

[AirP.]

There’s the agenda that Riley pushed Wade out, and then there’s the reality from Wade himself:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dwyane-wade-says-he-didnt-leave-heat-because-of-money-or-rift-with-pat-riley/

Also LOL
Like I said, a circle jerk of Heat missteps in here.

Oh... I'm sure that's truthful, why wouldn't he be truthful at the time he's now playing in his hometown, I'm sure the fanbase there would have been fine with him saying he left because of money. Chicago fans were not happy with the Wade signing but this was the Chicago FO's "2 year plan" for Chicago to have Butler under contract and to have 2 max slots available (they vastly overpaid Rondo too).

[broke]

We made the Finals without Crowder, made the Finals without Tucker. Those guys are replaceable but nobody whines over spilled milk quite like Heat fans.

Making the finals is cool but we still lost, and it wasn’t close in my opinion. That makes 3 finals appearance in a row we’ve lost. Not trying to discredit the run too much but to think this same squad gonna do the same next year is a fools errand I feel. But I do agree that making moves for the sake of making moves might not be the play

[SerialChiller]

How about drafting Bam….did Riley do that?

Nobody's saying Riley hasn't been good in the past. Some people are pointing out he's been not so good as of late especially compared to the past, and I think that's fairly accurate.

Yet we have 2 finals and another ECF appearance “as of late”

GET. A. GRIP.

Because of who Butler who Wade brought, and if Riley makes a few moves instead of waiting on Durant last year we might be celebrating a title right now. CALM. DOWN.

[AirP.]

How about drafting Bam….did Riley do that?

Aboslutely. How about the Duncan deal, did he do that right with Strus already on the roster? Did he do the Whiteside max right? How about all those bad contracts from a 30-11 run? You're getting ready to see part 2 of a 2nd half of the season hot streak creating more bad contracts.

What FO hasn’t made mistakes?

How about finding Duncan and Strus from the scrap heap.

Incredible, they found a guy who scored 13.5 ppg and another who drop 11.5 ppg. How do they do it?

[SoFlaKingReal]

Nobody's saying Riley hasn't been good in the past. Some people are pointing out he's been not so good as of late especially compared to the past, and I think that's fairly accurate.

Yet we have 2 finals and another ECF appearance “as of late”

GET. A. GRIP.

Because of who Butler who Wade brought, and if Riley makes a few moves instead of waiting on Durant last year we might be celebrating a title right now. CALM. DOWN.

Whatever people, to each your own. If you want to look back on the last few years and bitch and moan about Riley, that’s your prerogative.

I choose to think that Riley has built a helluva team with a helluva coach. There is no shame losing to Jokic and Co. You also can not control injuries, which **** us in the bubble, in 2022 and 2023.

[AirP.]

Yet we have 2 finals and another ECF appearance “as of late”

GET. A. GRIP.

Because of who Butler who Wade brought, and if Riley makes a few moves instead of waiting on Durant last year we might be celebrating a title right now. CALM. DOWN.

Whatever people, to each your own. If you want to look back on the last few years and bitch and moan about Riley, that’s your prerogative.

I choose to think that Riley has built a helluva team with a helluva coach. There is no shame losing to Jokic and Co. You also can not control injuries, which **** us in the bubble, in 2022 and 2023.

I've been moaning the whole time that this FO isn't going all in, it's not just looking back, some of us have been looking forward for a few years now.

[SerialChiller]

There’s the agenda that Riley pushed Wade out, and then there’s the reality from Wade himself:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dwyane-wade-says-he-didnt-leave-heat-because-of-money-or-rift-with-pat-riley/

Also LOL
Like I said, a circle jerk of Heat missteps in here.

Meh Wade said that at the time but I can find many instances where he straight up says he left because he felt disrespected. And then there is Riley himself saying...

"The departure was a huge mistake on our part, mine," Riley said. "Not to go back and regurgitate why and what happened, is that our franchise player, our prodigal son, so to speak, put us on the map, really, along with Alonzo and Tim Hardaway and everybody else prior to that, to walk away. That was not one of our best moments. I take full responsibility."

[SoFlaKingReal]

Because of who Butler who Wade brought, and if Riley makes a few moves instead of waiting on Durant last year we might be celebrating a title right now. CALM. DOWN.

Whatever people, to each your own. If you want to look back on the last few years and bitch and moan about Riley, that’s your prerogative.

I choose to think that Riley has built a helluva team with a helluva coach. There is no shame losing to Jokic and Co. You also can not control injuries, which **** us in the bubble, in 2022 and 2023.

I've been moaning the whole time that this FO isn't going all in, it's not just looking back, some of us have been looking forward for a few years now.

And you’ve been proven wrong time and time again. Yet, it’s the same nonsense. Keep moving the goalposts.

Let’s not forget what just happened, Jimmy butler **** the bed in the finals. Maybe we win if Butler showed up.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Player fan logic, if your team is good, it’s only because [insert player I nuthug] decided to play for you, and he’d win a ring every year if they could just surround him with better players.

The problem with that logic, it’s circular. Now if the Heat gets Dame you will inevitably see Dame fans start claiming the team only does well because of him, etc etc.

Alls I know is Riley showed up in 95, this franchise was arguably the weakest of the 4 it came into the league with (Magic, Hornets and Twolves) and now it’s talked about as much as the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs. And the only constant is Riles.

[AirP.]

Whatever people, to each your own. If you want to look back on the last few years and bitch and moan about Riley, that’s your prerogative.

I choose to think that Riley has built a helluva team with a helluva coach. There is no shame losing to Jokic and Co. You also can not control injuries, which **** us in the bubble, in 2022 and 2023.

I've been moaning the whole time that this FO isn't going all in, it's not just looking back, some of us have been looking forward for a few years now.

And you’ve been proven wrong time and time again. Yet, it’s the same nonsense. Keep moving the goalposts.

Name some since it's time and time again. Show me the goalpost that were moved too.

[SoFlaKingReal]

I've been moaning the whole time that this FO isn't going all in, it's not just looking back, some of us have been looking forward for a few years now.

And you’ve been proven wrong time and time again. Yet, it’s the same nonsense. Keep moving the goalposts.

Name some since it's time and time again. Show me the goalpost that were moved too.

I’m sure you didn’t have the Heat finishing as the 1 seed in 2022 and I’m sure you didn’t have them in the Finals this year. Yet that’s where they went. Damn roster construction!!

And I already know your response “Yeah they made, the Finals, but they almost lost in the play in!”

Does that mean the roster Riley constructed didn’t make the Finals? Lol

[AirP.]

Player fan logic, if your team is good, it’s only because [insert player I nuthug] decided to play for you, and he’d win a ring every year if they could just surround him with better players.

The problem with that logic, it’s circular. Now if the Heat gets Dame you will inevitably see Dame fans start claiming the team only does well because of him, etc etc.

Alls I know is Riley showed up in 95, this franchise was arguably the weakest of the 4 it came into the league with (Magic, Hornets and Twolves) and now it’s talked about as much as the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs. And the only constant is Riles.

Riley has been incredible for this franchise, but you can't convince me he's nearly as good for the franchise today as he was 10-15 years ago. If I remember right, younger Riley would be pissed for not winning a championship this year and 2020, not laughing about it during a press conference.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Blazers about to give the godfather “The great godfather” offer for Bam.

[KingDavid]

Blazers about to give the godfather “The great godfather” offer for Bam.

An elite center who was just showcased in the Finals, just stepping into his prime for the #3 pick?! What are they smoking?

[SoFlaKingReal]

Player fan logic, if your team is good, it’s only because [insert player I nuthug] decided to play for you, and he’d win a ring every year if they could just surround him with better players.

The problem with that logic, it’s circular. Now if the Heat gets Dame you will inevitably see Dame fans start claiming the team only does well because of him, etc etc.

Alls I know is Riley showed up in 95, this franchise was arguably the weakest of the 4 it came into the league with (Magic, Hornets and Twolves) and now it’s talked about as much as the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs. And the only constant is Riles.

Riley has been incredible for this franchise, but you can't convince me he's nearly as good for the franchise today as he was 10-15 years ago. If I remember right, younger Riley would be pissed for not winning a championship this year and 2020, not laughing about it during a press conference.

The reality is that Riley is far less involved with the day-to-day than he was 10-15 years ago. I understand the frustration with being unable to win it all with Butler, but some times things just happen and it is what it is. Pointing fingers at this guy or the next is pointless.

[twozeroMM]

My picks if we stay at 18:

Carson Wallace
Jaime Jaquez Jr.
Jett Howard
Gradey Dick

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Player fan logic, if your team is good, it’s only because [insert player I nuthug] decided to play for you, and he’d win a ring every year if they could just surround him with better players.

The problem with that logic, it’s circular. Now if the Heat gets Dame you will inevitably see Dame fans start claiming the team only does well because of him, etc etc.

Alls I know is Riley showed up in 95, this franchise was arguably the weakest of the 4 it came into the league with (Magic, Hornets and Twolves) and now it’s talked about as much as the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs. And the only constant is Riles.

Riley has been incredible for this franchise, but you can't convince me he's nearly as good for the franchise today as he was 10-15 years ago. If I remember right, younger Riley would be pissed for not winning a championship this year and 2020, not laughing about it during a press conference.

You weren’t microanalyzing his moves 10-15 years ago because you were busy rooting for Jimmy in Chicago, or whoever else you followed back then. A bunch on this board KILLED him for “wasting Wade’s prime” in 08/09, called getting LeBron let alone Bosh a pipe dream.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Blazers about to give the godfather “The great godfather” offer for Bam.

An elite center who was just showcased in the Finals, just stepping into his prime for the #3 pick?! What are they smoking?

We’ll be able to trade Tyler, Duncan, Lowry, cadaver knees Oladipo and 4 whole 1st rd picks for an all NBA player. We just have to make sure he says “Miami Only” only in Miami and poof we have said player. Blazers can offer Scoot, Simons, Sharpe, Nurkic and five 1st rd picks for Bam. Who says no? :lol


















Am i doing this right Rapaz?

[DayofMourning]

When is the Bam for 23rd and Nurkic deal going to be announced?

[MettaWorldPanda]

When is the Bam for 23rd and Nurkic deal going to be announced?

Riley preached patience. Draft is 2 days away