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Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1021 » by youreachiteach » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:10 pm

Hopefully there is a bidding war for their services.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1022 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:10 pm

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ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:They got nice pieces. Keegan, monk, and huerter


A middling prospect and 2 roleplayers is nothing to write home about.

Keegan isn't middling. He was a 4th overall pick and he is legit good. The word middling used around here is really inappropriate.


Keegan is the definition of middling. :lol:
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1023 » by Ackshun » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:11 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Ah yes the same Kings who are unwilling to give up even Keegan who isn't anything to write home about.

Miss me.


I think Murray is one of the more gifted, all around scorers in the league still on a rookie contract.

Time will tell though
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1024 » by mtcan » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:13 pm

41% 3 point shooter and was efficiently averaging 12 pts as 3rd or 4th option as a rookie on a legit playoff team isn't middling.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1025 » by youreachiteach » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:13 pm

Well, I mean he's middling in that he isn't a top tier wing--but the ability to shoot fits our roster better than Pascal does. Having Keegan and OG with Barnes isn't too bad.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1026 » by MonkBatter42 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:13 pm

You just know that Masai and Bobby won't be doing jack **** on draft night. They will still be evaluating. 13th pick, here we come!
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1027 » by Raptors Realtor » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:14 pm

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A middling prospect and 2 roleplayers is nothing to write home about.

Keegan isn't middling. He was a 4th overall pick and he is legit good. The word middling used around here is really inappropriate.


Keegan is the definition of middling. :lol:


That's absolute nonsense, you obviously didn't watch him this season.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1028 » by Los_29 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:15 pm

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ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:They got nice pieces. Keegan, monk, and huerter


A middling prospect and 2 roleplayers is nothing to write home about.

Keegan isn't middling. He was a 4th overall pick and he is legit good. The word middling used around here is really inappropriate.


I'd say that's a pretty appropriate description of Keegan. He's already 23 years old and averaged a pretty pedestrian 12/5 on great efficiency as a 4th/5th option on a playoff team. I think it's important to look at ceiling here. What are his strengths and weaknesses and how likely is it that he can improve on some of those weaknesses to become a very good player in this league? I'd say it's pretty unlikely.

He's a good player though and is a great fit on the Kings. He should continue to improve as well. But his upside is limited given his profile.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1029 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:15 pm

Keegan is a great shooter but doesn't do anything else very well. He projects to be a high end roleplayer as his ceiling. You don't replace a bonafide star player in Siakam with that. That's just downgrading talent for a timeline reconstruction. Stupid.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1030 » by mtcan » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:15 pm

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A middling prospect and 2 roleplayers is nothing to write home about.

Keegan isn't middling. He was a 4th overall pick and he is legit good. The word middling used around here is really inappropriate.


I'd say that's a pretty appropriate description of Keegan. He's already 23 years old and averaged a pretty pedestrian 12/5 on great efficiency as a 4th/5th option on a playoff team. I think it's important to look at ceiling here. What are his strengths and weaknesses and how likely is it that he can improve on some of those weaknesses to become a very good player in this league? I'd say it's pretty unlikely.

He's a good player though and is a great fit on the Kings. He should continue to improve as well. But his upside is limited given his profile.

He is 23 not 33 lol
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1031 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:15 pm

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PhilBlackson wrote:Kings don’t have enough (period)…on to the next rumour.

If they don't include Keegan Murray and Davion Mitchell...I'm not talking to Sacramento


For BOTH Pascal & OG lol nah those two aren’t nearly enough.

I’d want those two for one of our guys individually. That would be highway robbery for SAC…we could EASILY get better splitting up each guy into individual trades than that.

I’d even do deals with ATL for Pascal and IND for OG before I’d waste it on 2 high level role players like Murray/Mitchell who probably won’t even end up as good as the guys we’d be trading.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1032 » by MiamiSPX » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:16 pm

Murray is good and comes close to the 6'9" vision. 41% from 3 and turns 23 this year.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1033 » by mtcan » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
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PhilBlackson wrote:Kings don’t have enough (period)…on to the next rumour.

If they don't include Keegan Murray and Davion Mitchell...I'm not talking to Sacramento


For BOTH Pascal & OG lol nah those two aren’t nearly enough.

I’d want those two for one of our guys individually. That would be highway robbery for SAC…we could EASILY get better splitting up each guy into individual trades than that.

I’d even do deals with ATL for Pascal and IND for OG before I’d waste it on 2 high level role players like Murray/Mitchell who probably won’t even end up as good as the guys we’d be trading.

Obviously not for both but for one of them.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1034 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:18 pm

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They have nothing we want unless they are giving us Fox? .....There is no deal between us and Kings atm...

They got nice pieces. Keegan, monk, and huerter


For Siakam or OG Though? No....Just not in the same level of player we would get back in return....Monk is okay but lets not act like he has always been this consistent in his career.....Hes basically a JR Smith type guy...Hot/Cold....Keegan is okay...Didn't have the greatest rookie season but showed a little bit of promise....And Huerter is a really great shooter but really does nothing else...

They are good role players but OG is a potential defensive player of the year type guy and Siakam is an All NBA guy...
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1035 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:20 pm

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mtcan wrote:If they don't include Keegan Murray and Davion Mitchell...I'm not talking to Sacramento


For BOTH Pascal & OG lol nah those two aren’t nearly enough.

I’d want those two for one of our guys individually. That would be highway robbery for SAC…we could EASILY get better splitting up each guy into individual trades than that.

I’d even do deals with ATL for Pascal and IND for OG before I’d waste it on 2 high level role players like Murray/Mitchell who probably won’t even end up as good as the guys we’d be trading.

Obviously not for both but for one of them.


The rumour though is based on both. For one of them, I’m only open to OG for that personally and I still don’t love it personally.

I’d pursue a trade with NOP for Murphy + Daniels or 14th or with IND for Nembhard + 7 + 16 before I’d do that. I don’t think Keegan is going to be any better than OG, if that. At least the other 2 give us a chance to get a player with a higher ceiling than him.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1036 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:24 pm

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JShuttlesworth wrote:I can't wait to see everyone's reaction when Siakam is still on this team after tomorrow's draft


Poeltl, Siakam, FVV and GTJ will all return most likely. This was always the most likely scenario when all three guys were retained and the Raptors used a first rounder on a big man who can't shoot.

Let's all pray this doesn't happen. Last thing we need is a BC type of team. The new coach isn't going to break habits out of our veteran players.

One of Fred OG, Pascal won't return imho, OR if they all do, they trade gtj in July.


Same exact core imo, they made Nurse the fall guy, they want to run it back

I would be very surprised if either of Siakam or OG were traded....and the only scenario I see where Fred isn't back is if a team like Orlando gives him a better contract offer. Otherwise I think he's back, Masai will offer him a contract for sure, it's just a matter of whether he accepts or not.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1037 » by MiamiSPX » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:26 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:
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Poeltl, Siakam, FVV and GTJ will all return most likely. This was always the most likely scenario when all three guys were retained and the Raptors used a first rounder on a big man who can't shoot.

Let's all pray this doesn't happen. Last thing we need is a BC type of team. The new coach isn't going to break habits out of our veteran players.

One of Fred OG, Pascal won't return imho, OR if they all do, they trade gtj in July.


Same exact core imo, they made Nurse the fall guy, they want to run it back

I would be very surprised if either of Siakam or OG were traded....and the only scenario I see where Fred isn't back is if a team like Orlando gives him a better contract offer. Otherwise I think he's back, Masai will offer him a contract for sure, it's just a matter of whether he accepts or not.


There is just no way they can lay this all on Nurse.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1038 » by Bruin » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:42 pm

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1039 » by Tripod » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:44 pm

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#1040 » by mtcan » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:46 pm

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Can someone call the police for a "wellness check" on JRoy? Get that knife away from his wrist!!!

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