Trade Discussion 22/23

[Archx]

Cmon Nico give us something to salivate about. I have to stop getting my hopes up.

Some reports are saying Mavs are indeed drafting Lively. Then they'll resign Pinson and Powell for cheap, maybe add someone via MLE if Bertans indeed gets traded somehow and call it a day.

Then we'll hear the usual. Sometimes it's better to do nothing. Same **** we keep hearing for the past 5 years. "We drafted Lively, going to be great someday".

Everything I’ve read says the Mavs want to totally redo the center position. To me that says they have no interest in bringing back Powell. They do apparently want to make a run at Kuzma.

Yeah i know, i posted same tweets today. But like i said, i can't remember who, Woj or Cato said Mavs are otherwise locked on Lively and they could very well draft him and keep him as Chandler 2.0. But then you basically have no assets left, just MLE if they can somehow stay below tax line. Otherwise it's tax MLE which is only 6M to give out.

[BliscoSantos]

Drafting Lively would probably guarantee Powell resigning...and because Lively is nowhere near ready to play in the NBA(People forget Just how big of a leap it is going from college basketball to pros),Powell would be the starting C for the Mavs yet again

[dirkforpres]

Fully anticipate Mavs to do nothing and to bring back the exact same team + a rookie.

No faith in Mark and Nico at all and Luka is well on his way out at this rate.

[Mavrelous]

They got dead contracts and #30 for him, better than what Nico got, but not by much.
Celtics are a great FO, Nico should learn from their MO.

Is it tho? Dinwiddie over 30 imo.


And god please no to kuzma. I utterly despise that guy. He opted out yet? Would need avdija to judt balance a bertans swap

Avdija and Kyrie as teammates would make the Mossad monitor the Mavs 24/7

I LOLed...

[41Dirk41]

Drafting Lively would probably guarantee Powell resigning...and because Lively is nowhere near ready to play in the NBA(People forget Just how big of a leap it is going from college basketball to pros),Powell would be the starting C for the Mavs yet again

Exactly... Another Dwight Powell starter season.

God, kill me please. Now.

[Apz]

They got dead contracts and #30 for him, better than what Nico got, but not by much.
Celtics are a great FO, Nico should learn from their MO.

Is it tho? Dinwiddie over 30 imo.


And god please no to kuzma. I utterly despise that guy. He opted out yet? Would need avdija to judt balance a bertans swap

Avdija and Kyrie as teammates would make the Mossad monitor the Mavs 24/7

Well, atleast someone with "intelligence" would keep an eye on mavs, feels like that would be a first in many years!

[dirkules_41]

Drafting Lively would probably guarantee Powell resigning...and because Lively is nowhere near ready to play in the NBA(People forget Just how big of a leap it is going from college basketball to pros),Powell would be the starting C for the Mavs yet again

Exactly... Another Dwight Powell starter season.

God, kill me please. Now.

I'd rather become a Wizards fan than watch another year of Powell on the Mavs.

[Archx]

Drafting Lively would probably guarantee Powell resigning...and because Lively is nowhere near ready to play in the NBA(People forget Just how big of a leap it is going from college basketball to pros),Powell would be the starting C for the Mavs yet again

Exactly... Another Dwight Powell starter season.

God, kill me please. Now.

I'd rather become a Wizards fan than watch another year of Powell on the Mavs.

I guarantee you that he will be resigned.

[BliscoSantos]

Exactly... Another Dwight Powell starter season.

God, kill me please. Now.

I'd rather become a Wizards fan than watch another year of Powell on the Mavs.

I guarantee you that he will be resigned.

Yup,and by the end of the first month of the season he'll be the starting C

[Apz]

Some reports are saying Mavs are indeed drafting Lively. Then they'll resign Pinson and Powell for cheap, maybe add someone via MLE if Bertans indeed gets traded somehow and call it a day.

Then we'll hear the usual. Sometimes it's better to do nothing. Same **** we keep hearing for the past 5 years. "We drafted Lively, going to be great someday".

Everything I’ve read says the Mavs want to totally redo the center position. To me that says they have no interest in bringing back Powell. They do apparently want to make a run at Kuzma.

Yeah i know, i posted same tweets today. But like i said, i can't remember who, Woj or Cato said Mavs are otherwise locked on Lively and they could very well draft him and keep him as Chandler 2.0. But then you basically have no assets left, just MLE if they can somehow stay below tax line. Otherwise it's tax MLE which is only 6M to give out.

Im buying lively or whitmore. Basicly the only one i lack faith in of the top 10 expected is black, mainly because i really dont want guards that cant shoot and apparently he got like the most broken shot ever. No matter how awesome u are outside that, i see no future for that.

Im mainly tired of us dilluting or assets to try to patch many holes at once, then we end up with the sterling browns of the world cause that how thin the assets have become. IF u hit on someone, its easier to get better vets to sign for cheap. I dont think they are too excited to come play with moses brown, sterling, powell and pinson. Heck, we had to overpay mcgee like crazy.

And i know, i usually the first to say that u should never pick a center with a top 10 pick, cant put my finger on why i feel different this year

[Mr B]

Everything I’ve read says the Mavs want to totally redo the center position. To me that says they have no interest in bringing back Powell. They do apparently want to make a run at Kuzma.

Yeah i know, i posted same tweets today. But like i said, i can't remember who, Woj or Cato said Mavs are otherwise locked on Lively and they could very well draft him and keep him as Chandler 2.0. But then you basically have no assets left, just MLE if they can somehow stay below tax line. Otherwise it's tax MLE which is only 6M to give out.

Im buying lively or whitmore. Basicly the only one i lack faith in of the top 10 expected is black, mainly because i really dont want guards that cant shoot and apparently he got like the most broken shot ever. No matter how awesome u are outside that, i see no future for that.

Im mainly tired of us dilluting or assets to try to patch many holes at once, then we end up with the sterling browns of the world cause that how thin the assets have become. IF u hit on someone, its easier to get better vets to sign for cheap. I dont think they are too excited to come play with moses brown, sterling, powell and pinson. Heck, we had to overpay mcgee like crazy.

And i know, i usually the first to say that u should never pick a center with a top 10 pick, cant put my finger on why i feel different this year

If Whitmore is there the Mavs HAVE to pick him and keep him.

[DJ_3_Ball]

I just don't see it for ATL. If they just wanted money savings, I'm sure other teams like SA would easily take Collins for the 15th pick.

If POR keeps Dame, I could see them taking on Collins. They could actually use him in their front court.

Which, Dame does like John Collins, and he wanted Portland to trade their first round pick last season for John. Portland declined and drafted Shaedon Sharpe.

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Huh, I didn't know that. Well the thing is for this off season, POR is under more pressure to pick a path with Dame. Either trade him or empty the cupboards and go Win Now mode. In previous seasons, Dame hasn't put as much pressure on the organization to Win Now, and he certainly hasn't flirted with leaving as much as he has in the past 3 months or so.

[Dmavs12]

Everything I’ve read says the Mavs want to totally redo the center position. To me that says they have no interest in bringing back Powell. They do apparently want to make a run at Kuzma.

Yeah i know, i posted same tweets today. But like i said, i can't remember who, Woj or Cato said Mavs are otherwise locked on Lively and they could very well draft him and keep him as Chandler 2.0. But then you basically have no assets left, just MLE if they can somehow stay below tax line. Otherwise it's tax MLE which is only 6M to give out.

Im buying lively or whitmore. Basicly the only one i lack faith in of the top 10 expected is black, mainly because i really dont want guards that cant shoot and apparently he got like the most broken shot ever. No matter how awesome u are outside that, i see no future for that.

Im mainly tired of us dilluting or assets to try to patch many holes at once, then we end up with the sterling browns of the world cause that how thin the assets have become. IF u hit on someone, its easier to get better vets to sign for cheap. I dont think they are too excited to come play with moses brown, sterling, powell and pinson. Heck, we had to overpay mcgee like crazy.

And i know, i usually the first to say that u should never pick a center with a top 10 pick, cant put my finger on why i feel different this year

You’re saying that because the mavs screwed up so much you’re forced to rely on hope rather than logic. We’re stuck crossing our fingers hoping that if we draft the position we need most, this person will not just be an All-star, but be an All-star in record time for Lukas window.

[DJ_3_Ball]

Its reported that Mavs have spoken to the Celtics about a S&T for Grant Williams.

My guess would be C-Wood.

If it's Josh Green or Jaden Hardy, they might as well close shop now.

Who has watched enough Boston games to get a good description for Grant Williams? Reggie Bullock clone? Dillon Brooks with a 3 pt shot? Looks like a low tier utility guy in his highlights. Does a bit of everything but nothing really stands out.

With KP just being acquired by the C's, I think there's a decent chance they would entertain an offer for Robert Williams, IF the Mavs offered the #10 pick and another asset. Josh Green or Hardy.

Honestly, I would do that. Time Lord is the exact player the Mavs are looking for. He's just not a 35 mpg guy, but if you added Brook Lopez & Robert Williams this offseason, suddenly the Mavs look a lot better. You can pretty much pair any half decent big with Robert Williams in a time share, and it's overall gonna be ok. Far better than what the Mavs have had. That's for sure.

[Maverick41]

With KP just being acquired by the C's, I think there's a decent chance they would entertain an offer for Robert Williams, IF the Mavs offered the #10 pick and another asset. Josh Green or Hardy.

Honestly, I would do that. Time Lord is the exact player the Mavs are looking for. He's just not a 35 mpg guy, but if you added Brook Lopez & Robert Williams this offseason, suddenly the Mavs look a lot better. You can pretty much pair any half decent big with Robert Williams in a time share, and it's overall gonna be ok. Far better than what the Mavs have had. That's for sure.

Robert Williams would be perfect here. When healthy, he's probably defends guards and wings on the perimeter and on switches better then anyone else. Problem is "when healthy" which should bring down his trade value quite a bit. I think I could do #10 + filler for him but I wouldn't if we needed to toss in Hardy or Green.

[Forbes]

With that Celtics wizards deal falling apart we need to be talking to the Celtics about Grant Williams and see what BS we can send the Wizards.

[Absinthe]

The Celts absolutely fleeced the Wizards. They got Porzingis and two first round picks for giving up Smart and the Celtics have many first round picks to flip for other talent. Compare this to the Mavs front office.

[41Dirk41]

Nico can return to sell shoes. Puppet.

[HMFFL]

If POR keeps Dame, I could see them taking on Collins. They could actually use him in their front court.

Which, Dame does like John Collins, and he wanted Portland to trade their first round pick last season for John. Portland declined and drafted Shaedon Sharpe.

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I do think at some point Portland has to put their put down with Dame demanding stuff left and right. He's earning like half a billion dollars. The reason they cant sign anyone is he takes like 80% of their cap for himself. Similar to Indiana with Paul George, it might be smart to trade Dame for pieces they could rebuild with. Dame + Collins + Nurkic is not getting past Denver if they made the 8th seed in the first round IMO. Dame just got a midlife crisis seeing CP3 tossed to the side without a ring. And now he thinks about how to win but he's the one who signed that contract that prevented the team to chase more talent. Cant have it two ways.

The flip side is this.....They will forever not be good after Dame is gone because nobody is lining up to be in Portland. The hope they had was Giannis who opened said Portland was it if he didn't work things out with Milwaukee.

Portland can't make some nose now that they have the third overall pick, who Dame supposedly doesn't want Brandon Miller, or Scoot, so we'll see if they trade the pick. Ideally, move it for Zion, depending on what else must be included. There doesn't appear to be much elite talent available.

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[HMFFL]

With new owners, Charlotte could be a trade partner now.

THJ + Bertans +10th pick for Hayward and Mark Williams

Everything must still be finalized thru Michael Jordan until the sell of the team is finalized. Which is why he has the final day who they select #2.

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