NO-KG-AI wrote:I don't think you're wrong with a bit of a timeline reset, especially if the franchise sees Scoot as potentially higher ceiling than Ingram's as a likely case.
I think Dyson and Herb are both so excellent defensively and as connective pieces, you have to believe at least one turns into a decent shooter, right? Whoever that is first gets to be a long term starter for us IMO in that scenario.
Stating the obvious, I think Daniels has more overall talent & potential but prefer Herbs feel & IQ for the game. I don't think Daniels ever touches Herb in that aspect. Much like a Superstar player without the compete level vs a Jimmy Butler ..
Concerning the timeline. With all the injury concerns, Zion's age & 5yr control. Keeping him is almost as though the young team has turned to youth & development anyway, with the chance he might play.. Scoot on rookie scale control & development fits right into that timeline. Whereas BI wants to contend & will be up for a massive extension in 2yrs. Where if this Zion injury bug continues, it won't be hard to see the young talented team treadmilling with BI where some team could swoop in to some reserve of NO's not wanting to potentially handicap themselves financially with a 500 team..Adding further risk, as BI also has a bit of injury concern & will be getting older .. & possibly more injury riddled.where NO's could back themselves into a corner financially with the team having proven nothing as of yet.
For me Scoot doesn't have to end up better than BI in this scenario for the deal to be a good move.
Pros
- Murphy is a great role player & spacing fir with Zion's gravity, proven. He gets to develop as a starter on rookie scale, first contract vs Bi's super max & injury concerns.
Cons
He won't be able to carry the team in the event Zion goes down not being as talented/deve;oped as BI but this negative leads to the positive of a better draft pick in the event of Zion being injured. No treadmilling. They either compete with Zion or turn to development & draft with the young & raw (Scoot( team.
Pros
- Financially, NO's would be trading a supermax tied to a non superstar with injury concerns as he ages for rookie scale, control & flexibility
Cons
- none
Pros
- Scoot, even if he' doesn't end up as talented as BI. With Murphy filling an adequate hole at BI's position SF. Scoot upgrades the one spot on roster in need of a clear upgrade. The team wide high TO rate is a direct result of not having someone to QB the team. Control the flow/pace & take care of the ball. Run simple PNR action for their Superstar bigman & even Jonas who is a great PNR bigman. The fact that neither big man gets utilized in this action is a travesty. Part reason Zion went down to injury taking the most difficult shots at the rim (packed paint) & offensive predictability. Give him the ball & get out the way type offense, lol.
Cons
- Unknown rookie could bust expectations.
However there's risk in not trading aswell. At the same level of negativity concerning Scoot's worst case scenario outcome. Pels could get stuck with an injured BI on a supermax with no flexibiltity. The question is where do you feel comfortable placing your bets. IMO, Scoot busting his potential doesn't handicap the team. As with the risk concerning a Zion injury, Pels won't be treadmilling in a youth & development move, a seamless transition from having Zion to high draft pick. Whereas, even without a major injury as BI ages, he hasn't been a bill of health/available heading for a supermax contract, which will kill the teams flexibility to retain it's young talent & to manuever other avenues of trade, regain his lost value. Pels will still find itself in need of the draft but with the long root. A similar outcome if Scoot were to bust his potential without the fliexibility issues & tax problem.
Depening on how people look at thing,s everything has it's pros & cons, which is why I always say happiness, is a state of mind. I'm sure someone could make an equally compelling argument for keeping BI.